Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, Tea Party Alliance - TRUE Third Party Initiative

[TNforPaul45]

Third parties NEED to form a Coalition, otherwise, they're just wasting everyone's time and money.

Frank I have been screaming this very fact from the mountain tops for a couple of years now. If ALL the third parties came together and unified on a platform of eliminating as much of government as possible, then they may attract enough support to be a viable third party. The groundwork that the liberty movement and Ron Paul have laid down is, hopefull, in anticipation of this very fact. I don't know how much longer these independent parties are going to stand by and keep allowing themselves to be marginalized by the Federalist Party (Democrats + Republicans) due to their own in-fighting over insignificant differences.

Those small differences that are keeping the various groups apart are now pale in comparison to the HUGE problem that the Government is creating for us all. If we cannot get Ron through on the mainstream political channels this go around, then afterwards, it's time for us all to form a Liberty Congress and form a solid alternative through a new Political Party.

 

[FrankRep]

GOP Kingmakers Wipe Tea Party Seats Off Map

News Max
23 Apr 2011

Tea party lawmakers are being targeted for elimination by their own party, as old-guard Republicans use the Census-mandated redistricting process to erase seats won by last year’s upstarts, the National Journal reports.​

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My Solution:

Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, Tea Party Alliance - TRUE Third Party Initiative

 

[speciallyblend]

been pushing this for years but i suspect the ego's in those parties will never allow this to happen! In colorado if you combined the 3rd parties and the indys with ron paul republicans and democrats? the gop would be the 3rd party and the new coalition would be the 2nd party aka Liberty Party . something tells me the gop will elect obama and we are sitting in 2012 with no one to vote for in the gop!! hopefully i am wrong but seeing the gop's track record i have to shake my head!

 

[speciallyblend]

Frank I have been screaming this very fact from the mountain tops for a couple of years now. If ALL the third parties came together and unified on a platform of eliminating as much of government as possible, then they may attract enough support to be a viable third party. The groundwork that the liberty movement and Ron Paul have laid down is, hopefull, in anticipation of this very fact. I don't know how much longer these independent parties are going to stand by and keep allowing themselves to be marginalized by the Federalist Party (Democrats + Republicans) due to their own in-fighting over insignificant differences.

Those small differences that are keeping the various groups apart are now pale in comparison to the HUGE problem that the Government is creating for us all. If we cannot get Ron through on the mainstream political channels this go around, then afterwards, it's time for us all to form a Liberty Congress and form a solid alternative through a new Political Party.

100% agree ,at the national level , the gop is in a do or die situation! As for states we still have some say but the national gop leadership reminds me of trump,one big fat joke on our country!!!

 

[heavenlyboy34]

GOP Kingmakers Wipe Tea Party Seats Off Map

News Max
23 Apr 2011

Tea party lawmakers are being targeted for elimination by their own party, as old-guard Republicans use the Census-mandated redistricting process to erase seats won by last year’s upstarts, the National Journal reports.​

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My Solution:

Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, Tea Party Alliance - TRUE Third Party Initiative

Why does this coalition have to be a bunch of "right wing" parties? Why not embrace the Green party, Pirate party, and other "left" groups?

 

[FrankRep]

Why does this coalition have to be a bunch of "right wing" parties? Why not embrace the Green party, Pirate party, and other "left" groups?

Leftist = Big Government

 

[AuH20]

Why does this coalition have to be a bunch of "right wing" parties? Why not embrace the Green party, Pirate party, and other "left" groups?

Do those parties want to bury the keys of centralized power or capture them for their own agenda? I'm sure the Green Party would love to expand the power of the EPA to an unfathomable scope. We should ally with anyone who wants to take a step forward to us, in decentralizing the government behemoth, which includes its' military and domestic components.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Leftist = Big Government

So? Same with "rightist". Get out of the false right/left dichotomy. Libertarianism began as a left-wing radical movement.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Do those parties want to bury the keys of centralized power or capture them for their own agenda? I'm sure the Green Party would love to expand the power of the EPA to an unfathomable scope. We should ally with anyone who wants to take a step forward to us, in decentralizing the government behemoth, which includes its' military and domestic components.

I don't know. But I'm not so quick to dismiss them because we disagree on some things. The Pirate party, for example, takes the correct stance on piracy laws.

ETA: Here's the GP platform. I dislike much of it, but there are some things I agree with.

 

[FrankRep]

So? Same with "rightist". Get out of the false right/left dichotomy. Libertarianism began as a left-wing radical movement.

This WHOLE thread is about breaking away from the GOP Establishment because they are Big Government.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

WE'VE been pushing this for years

The 3rd parties need to unite, pool the Grassroots, Money, candidates, Marketing and Sales, resources, etc. Then if the clowns at fasco-corporate media sabotage or ignore the 3rd party united, it will be obvious that the Duopoly has the false impression controlling it all and American ignorance a wake up call.

been pushing this for years but i suspect the ego's in those parties will never allow this to happen! In colorado if you combined the 3rd parties and the indys with ron paul republicans and democrats? the gop would be the 3rd party and the new coalition would be the 2nd party aka Liberty Party . something tells me the gop will elect obama and we are sitting in 2012 with no one to vote for in the gop!! hopefully i am wrong but seeing the gop's track record i have to shake my head!

 

[speciallyblend]

Why does this coalition have to be a bunch of "right wing" parties? Why not embrace the Green party, Pirate party, and other "left" groups?

no problem having them in our folds. I kinda of lumped them into 3rd parties and indys in my mind but yeah liberty has no party!!

 

[AuH20]

no problem having them in our folds. I kinda of lumped them into 3rd parties and indys in my mind but yeah liberty has no party!!

Unfortunately, the definition of liberty varies from group to group. Some of that liberty is extracted from others'.

 

[speciallyblend]

Unfortunately, the definition of liberty varies from group to group. Some of that liberty is extracted from others'.

that is why we would have a platform

 

[demolama]

Won't happen... LP purist split from the LP and created the Boston Tea Party because the LP gutted their platform in 2006 to be "more electable." The LP went from selecting good solid constitutionalists like Harry Browne and Micheal Badnarik to Bob Barr. I would expect more of the same from them.

 

[speciallyblend]

Won't happen... LP purist split from the LP and created the Boston Tea Party because the LP gutted their platform in 2006 to be "more electable." The LP went from selecting good solid constitutionalists like Harry Browne and Micheal Badnarik to Bob Barr. I would expect more of the same from them.

so what is the back up plan in 2012? play ps3 and do not bother voting? i mean i am going to vote so i will vote 3rd party instead of 2 evils!!! I guess no back up plan for the gop corruption!!

 

[FrankRep]

Won't happen... LP purist split from the LP and created the Boston Tea Party because the LP gutted their platform in 2006 to be "more electable." The LP went from selecting good solid constitutionalists like Harry Browne and Micheal Badnarik to Bob Barr. I would expect more of the same from them.

I guess EGO is more important than saving America from destruction.

 

[speciallyblend]

blimpin in case the gop alienates ron paul again!!

 

[Carehn]

Its going to be hard to get Libertarians such as myself, to cave into any of the demands the bible party would want me to compromise on. Now if they all want to cave in and simply support a Libertarian platform, ya i guess I could work with them.

 

[BarryDonegan]

Third parties need 1000000x as much money just to get on the ballot(exaggeratedly). The Republican party works just fine as long as the candidate is good. Long term, this is great, as a strategy for any election in the next 10-20 years, not going to happen.