Confirmed:Miranda Rights Won't Be Read For Boston Bombing Suspect

[Brett85]

Your explanation is a true definition of cognizant dissonance. Sadly many people think this is okay.

When did I say it was "ok?" You accused someone else of twisting your words, and now you're twisting my words. I'm not saying that the drone bombings are ok. I'm just explaining that it's not the exact same thing as someone intentionally killing innocent people in the U.S with a bomb.

 

[pcosmar]

Sure, we are all in agreement that this is probably blowback of some sort.

I am certainly not sure of that.

It is possible,, and I have not discounted that possibility,, but I doubt it.

I think it is meant to look that way,, but there is NO clear motive..

I believe this was done to expand the power of the state. Period.

 

[angelatc]

That's true, and I'm all in favor of changing our foreign policy and just leaving the rest of the world alone. However, the difference between this bombing and the drone bombings are that this bomber intentionally killed innocent people, whereas in the drone bombings innocent people are killed, but it's unintentional.

I'm not justifying it, just explaining the difference.

I know that a lot of people see it that way, but I really don't. This same government will prosecute parents for negligence when accidents turn to tragedy without blinking an eye, but shrugs and implies that it is merely unfortunate that civilians are torn to shreds when they drop bombs.

Have a toddler that gets a hold of a gun, plays with matches and firecrackers, or wanders out in front of a train? You're going to need a lawyer.

Kill kids with collateral damage from air strikes? Oh well.

I would argue that once you are aware that damage is occurring, then after that it should be deemed intentional.

 

[angelatc]

I am certainly not sure of that.

It is possible,, and I have not discounted that possibility,, but I doubt it.

I think it is meant to look that way,, but their is NO clear motive..

I believe this was done to expand the power of the state. Period.

They don't need to create a scenario to expand the power of the state. All they have to do is let people be human, and take advantage of the situations that arise naturally.

 

[donnay]

Yes. Far better then police. Would not need to shut down Boston to get the kid too. Brother would be alive as well and being questioned.

So what was members of Craft International doing in Boston that day, you suppose?

FBI: "Pay no attention to the men in Khaki pants with black backpacks or sidepacks. Pay attention to whom we told you to pay attention too."

 

[donnay]

When did I say it was "ok?" You accused someone else of twisting your words, and now you're twisting my words. I'm not saying that the drone bombings are ok. I'm just explaining that it's not the exact same thing as someone intentionally killing innocent people in the U.S with a bomb.

I said your explanation is a true definition of cognizant dissonance. How did I twist that?

 

[angelatc]

I've already explained about 100 x's that I suspect those guys are either undercover cops wearing promotional hats or they're private security guys hired specifically to patrol the event. Fat lot of good that did.

Why do you find it shocking that there would be police dressed as civilians in the crowd?

 

[donnay]

I've already explained about 100 x's that I suspect those guys are either undercover cops wearing promotional hats or they're private security guys hired specifically to patrol the event. Fat lot of good that did.

Why do you find it shocking that there would be police dressed as civilians in the crowd?

You suspect or is that your theory?

It's not shocking at all, it seems to be the norm sadly.

 

[angelatc]

You suspect or is that your theory?

It's not shocking at all, it seems to be the norm sadly.

Well, i guess it is my theory. I don't see anything especially nefarious about having undercover officers patrolling crowds. I think it's a huge waste of money, but that's about it.

 

[pcosmar]

They don't need to create a scenario to expand the power of the state. All they have to do is let people be human, and take advantage of the situations that arise naturally.

Then why did the Government attack My Carmel, when they could have simply picked up David Koresh on any of his many and regular trips into town?

And why did the Federal Government Blow up the Federal Building in OKC.
McVeigh could not have set the demolition charges Inside the building. That would have required security clearance.
The truck bomb was theatrical cover for the demolition charges.. That was all a Government Operation.

and before you say they wouldn't do that.. Operation Northwoods was a planed government operation. Kennedy,,to his credit, rejected it..
But it was planned.

 

[donnay]

Well, i guess it is my theory. I don't see anything especially nefarious about having undercover officers patrolling crowds. I think it's a huge waste of money, but that's about it.

It's a good cover for a drill to go live.

 

[silverhandorder]

What are these pictures supposed to tell me? Look like security to me. Should there not be security?

 

[silverhandorder]

Then why did the Government attack My Carmel, when they could have simply picked up David Koresh on any of his many and regular trips into town?

And why did the Federal Government Blow up the Federal Building in OKC.
McVeigh could not have set the demolition charges Inside the building. That would have required security clearance.
The truck bomb was theatrical cover for the demolition charges.. That was all a Government Operation.

and before you say they wouldn't do that.. Operation Northwoods was a planed government operation. Kennedy,,to his credit, rejected it..
But it was planned.

Slow down there. No one is going to spend the time to comb through your conspiracy theories. How about we talk about the subject of the thread.

 

[donnay]

What are these pictures supposed to tell me? Look like security to me. Should there not be security?

They are telling you to think outside the box. All those security people had black backpacks. The alleged bomb was a pressure cooker in a black backpack. EVERYONE IS SUSPECT, not whom the authorities say is suspect.

 

[tod evans]

However, the difference between this bombing and the drone bombings are that this bomber intentionally killed innocent people, whereas in the drone bombings innocent people are killed, but it's unintentional.

I'm not justifying it, just explaining the difference.

So you're stating that you believe civilian death by drone is "unintentional"...........Would you go so far as to state that you believe it's permissible for our government to execute civilians unintentionally just so long as they blow up their intended target?

Me, I don't find this behavior acceptable!

Especially given the fact that we are not at war.

In fact I hold that the murder of civilians in other countries by drone should be an indictable offence punishable by death.

 

[silverhandorder]

They are telling you to think outside the box. All those security people had black backpacks. The alleged bomb was a pressure cooker in a black backpack. EVERYONE IS SUSPECT, not whom the authorities say is suspect.

No you are out of your mind if you think that. There is more evidence to suggest the brothers did it. Until you come up with a probable cause what you are doing is baseless speculation. It is ordinary to have security at events. Just because their uniform are similar to what the suspects used does not mean they should be the suspects.

 

[otherone]

So you're stating that you believe civilian death by drone is "unintentional"...........Would you go so far as to state that you believe it's permissible for our government to execute civilians unintentionally just so long as they blow up their intended target?

They are actually agricultural drones. The bombs they drop are seeds that grow more terrorists. It's the Cycle of Terror, beautiful, in it's way.

 

[otherone]

There is more evidence to suggest the brothers did it.

Matthew 23:24
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

 

[silverhandorder]

So you're stating that you believe civilian death by drone is "unintentional"...........Would you go so far as to state that you believe it's permissible for our government to execute civilians unintentionally just so long as they blow up their intended target?

Me, I don't find this behavior acceptable!

Especially given the fact that we are not at war.

In fact I hold that the murder of civilians in other countries by drone should be an indictable offence punishable by death.

Yes drones are murder of civilians. They are immoral on the same level as terrorism. However you don't run the country, the government does. These terrorists are as bad as the government and deserve no sympathy. Just because someone thinks the terrorists should be stopped and prevented does not mean they support the war.

Lastly there are a lot of people that do think our bombing of civilians is moral and the terrorist acts perpetrated against us are immoral. They are hypocrites but they are still right that terrorist acts are immoral.

 

[donnay]

No you are out of your mind if you think that. There is more evidence to suggest the brothers did it. Until you come up with a probable cause what you are doing is baseless speculation. It is ordinary to have security at events. Just because their uniform are similar to what the suspects used does not mean they should be the suspects.

Yes, I am out of my mind for not buying the government narrative. Government is never wrong, they care about the people and they would never hurt another human being, intentionally, to garner more control. <s>