Climate Alarmists Are So Uneducated

[Dr.3D]

Not to mention, all of the carbon dioxide that gets locked into limestone. We end up making concrete out of it and it sits there for a long long time, sequestered and locked up. The carbon dioxide in the rain erodes the limestone and turns it into calcium carbonate, this runs down into the oceans and coral reefs are made out of it. This process has been going on for billions of years.

It isn't like it is going to stop any time soon. Carbon dioxide is being sequestered all of the time by being trapped in limestone. It isn't going to get released any time soon.

 

[Tpoints]

Not to mention, all of the carbon dioxide that gets locked into limestone. We end up making concrete out of it and it sits there for a long long time, sequestered and locked up. The carbon dioxide in the rain erodes the limestone and turns it into calcium carbonate, this runs down into the oceans and coral reefs are made out of it. This process has been going on for billions of years.

It isn't like it is going to stop any time soon. Carbon dioxide is being sequestered all of the time by being trapped in limestone. It isn't going to get released any time soon.

Limestone IS calcium carbonate, are you talking about acid rain turning limestone into CaO and releasing CO2? What's not going to stop any time soon?

 

[Dr.3D]

Limestone IS calcium carbonate, are you talking about acid rain turning limestone into CaO and releasing CO2? What's not going to stop any time soon?

No I'm talking about the building of limestone as has been happening for as long as their has been water a source of calcium and carbon dioxide.

There have been times when Earth experienced runaway cooling – but not warming. Humans are adding CO2 to the atmosphere as we turn the fossil fuels, which nature sequestered in the forms of oil, natural gas and coal, back into the atmosphere from where it originally came.

Look at Figure 3 to see how CO2-starved Earth and its plants are today. Unfortunately, this benefit of additional CO2 to Earth’s atmosphere cannot go on but another century or two because these fuels will become depleted, and the residual airborne CO2 will be again sequestered into limestone rocks, the buried remains of plants and the shells of life living in the oceans. Hopefully, technology will figure out how to return some of this sequestered CO2 back into Earth’s atmosphere to sustain the plant life, in fact all life, on our planet.
http://climatephysics.com/?p=187

 

[Tpoints]

No I'm talking about the building of limestone as has been happening for as long as their has been water a source of calcium and carbon dioxide.

Ok, do we count on that to absorb CO2 as fast as it did in the past? or will too much heat, too much CO2 ever overwhelm these "carbon sinks" and, like you suggested "death spiral to perpetual warming"?

 

[Dr.3D]

Ok, do we count on that to absorb CO2 as fast as it did in the past? or will too much heat, too much CO2 ever overwhelm these "carbon sinks" and, like you suggested "death spiral to perpetual warming"?

Read the article.

 

[Tpoints]

Read the article.

Reprinted from Montana Petroleum Report

Why is it that people who say CO2 doesn't cause warming, or that CO2 is a good thing, or that warming is a good thing ALWAYS HAPPENS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH FOSSIL FUELS?

Also, why do they always point to thousands of years in the past as if they're willing to live those conditions again?

 

[Dr.3D]

Reprinted from Montana Petroleum Report

Why is it that people who say CO2 doesn't cause warming, or that CO2 is a good thing, or that warming is a good thing ALWAYS HAPPENS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH FOSSIL FUELS?

Also, why do they always point to thousands of years in the past as if they're willing to live those conditions again?

Perhaps they feel the need to counter some of the misinformation that is currently being delivered to the general public. After all, misinformed people are looking at them as if they are the bad guys.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

OMG how can you not understand this?? Seriously, you keep saying the same thing over and over again

WHAT PART OF THE FACT THAT PLANTS CAN ACCUMULATE MORE CARBON INTO THE SOIL THAN IS RELEASED, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND??? Of course it'll be released eventually but GUESS WHAT, when that single carbon molecule is released, twice as many will already have taken it's place. Seriously dude this is simple shit..

This.

 

[Travlyr]

Simple is elementary. Elementary students knew this simple information in the third grade years and years ago.

 

[Tpoints]

Perhaps they feel the need to counter some of the misinformation that is currently being delivered to the general public. After all, misinformed people are looking at them as if they are the bad guys.

and nobody who isn't either monetarily interested in fossil fuels or politically interested in preventing regulations seem to see it as misinformation? Grand coincidence or grand conspiracy?

Let's back up, do you dispute CO2 being a greenhouse gas, yes or no? (Saying there are other greenhouse gases or that CO2 doesn't come mostly from humans doesn't answer this question)

 

[Dr.3D]

and nobody who isn't either monetarily interested in fossil fuels or politically interested in preventing regulations seem to see it as misinformation? Grand coincidence or grand conspiracy?

Let's back up, do you dispute CO2 being a greenhouse gas, yes or no? (Saying there are other greenhouse gases or that CO2 doesn't come mostly from humans doesn't answer this question)

Yep, it works quite well in the greenhouse. It is used in greenhouses to help the plants grow. They don't use it in greenhouses to increase the temperature though.

 

[Tpoints]

Yep, it works quite well in the greenhouse. It is used in greenhouses to help the plants grow. They don't use it in greenhouses to increase the temperature though.

Oh, sorry, I didn't know you didn't know what greenhouse gas means.

Have you heard of "greenhouse effect"?

The greenhouse effect refers to circumstances where the short wavelengths of visible light from the sun pass through a transparent medium and are absorbed, but the longer wavelengths of the infrared re-radiation from the heated objects are unable to pass through that medium. The trapping of the long wavelength radiation leads to more heating and a higher resultant temperature. Besides the heating of an automobile by sunlight through the windshield and the namesake example of heating the greenhouse by sunlight passing through sealed, transparent windows, the greenhouse effect has been widely used to describe the trapping of excess heat by the rising concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The carbon dioxide strongly absorbs infrared and does not allow as much of it to escape into space.

I wasn't asking you what the intentions of CO2 being in a greenhouse were, I was asking if you dispute the FACT that CO2 causes warming through "greenhouse effect".

 

[Tpoints]

This.

neg rep happy today?

Mr. JFKIII has given me 8 neg reps, all in this thread in the past 2 days...he really hates me :/

 

[Dr.3D]

Oh, sorry, I didn't know you didn't know what greenhouse gas means.

Have you heard of "greenhouse effect"?

The greenhouse effect refers to circumstances where the short wavelengths of visible light from the sun pass through a transparent medium and are absorbed, but the longer wavelengths of the infrared re-radiation from the heated objects are unable to pass through that medium. The trapping of the long wavelength radiation leads to more heating and a higher resultant temperature. Besides the heating of an automobile by sunlight through the windshield and the namesake example of heating the greenhouse by sunlight passing through sealed, transparent windows, the greenhouse effect has been widely used to describe the trapping of excess heat by the rising concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The carbon dioxide strongly absorbs infrared and does not allow as much of it to escape into space.

I wasn't asking you what the intentions of CO2 being in a greenhouse were, I was asking if you dispute the FACT that CO2 causes warming through "greenhouse effect".

I was quite aware of the speculation concerning CO2 and how it might cause warming. Where is the proof?

 

[Tpoints]

I was quite aware of the speculation concerning CO2 and how it might cause warming. Where is the proof?

That's all you had to say.

Is this good enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwtt51gvaJQ

Oh, if you're going to tell me "what you can do with a bottle doesn't prove it happens in the atmosphere", tell that for me to the people who just said "try warming a soda bottle and see what happens"

 

[Anti Federalist]

Well...that made my head hurt.

 

[Travlyr]

That's all you had to say.

Is this good enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwtt51gvaJQ

Oh, if you're going to tell me "what you can do with a bottle doesn't prove it happens in the atmosphere", tell that for me to the people who just said "try warming a soda bottle and see what happens"

What a retard. A professional retard. Does anyone believe that that idiot is a scientist?

 

[Tpoints]

What a retard. A professional retard. Does anyone believe that that idiot is a scientist?

I sure don't believe you're a better one. Is calling somebody a retard your SOP when somebody outsmarts you?

 

[Travlyr]

I sure don't believe you're a better one. Is calling somebody a retard your SOP when somebody outsmarts you?

Outsmarts me? Did you see which bottle had the light shining on it? What a failure of an experiment. Do you dumbasses think we are dumbasses? Get a grip dumbass.

 

[Tpoints]

Outsmarts me? Did you see which bottle had the light shining on it? What a failure of an experiment. Do you dumbasses think we are dumbasses? Get a grip dumbass.

I don't like namecalling, but yes, I think you are somewhat dumb. If he was the only person do did such an experiment, you'd have a point, but it's been done time after time. Feel free to make your own demo and video take a conflicting result.