Climate Alarmists Are So Uneducated

[Natural Citizen]

Huge Mars Colony Eyed by SpaceX Founder Elon Musk

http://www.space.com/16918-nasa-mars-human-spaceflight-goals.html

 

[Origanalist]

Huge Mars Colony Eyed by SpaceX Founder Elon Musk

http://www.space.com/16918-nasa-mars-human-spaceflight-goals.html

There goes another planet. Better make sure Algore is there to keep us from destroying it.

 

[Dr.3D]

There goes another planet. Better make sure Algore is there to keep us from destroying it.

Too late, it's already getting hotter.

To determine the extent of surface changes on Mars, scientists took images from the Viking (launched 1975) and Mars Global Surveyor (1996) satellite missions and mapped them into a climate model developed at NASA Ames Research Center. They discovered that a wind-whipped, dusty surface has a measurable effect on the amount of sunlight that is reflected by the planet. The results of this research show that an increase in darkened surface areas may account for a one degree Fahrenheit rise in the surface air temperature of the planet.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/marswarming.html

 

[Natural Citizen]

There goes another planet. Better make sure Algore is there to keep us from destroying it.

The larger idea I that this is what youth are learning. And it is. Unlike other means we have read. And as always, Change comes from the space program.

Besides. Al keeps yuns busy running in circles on your prison planet while the rest of the big boys get away from it. Is brilliant, really. 500,000 a pop. Can the germs afford to pay that? Of course not. Nope. That's a special reservation. Of course, maybe Al didn't get his ticket and has to stick around. Ever think of that? Lot's of folks who wouldn't ordinarilly concern themselves with such things or people are offering "help" now. Perhaps the must.

Anyhoo. I don't even know why I posted that. Best suited in other corners of the web.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Tonight on Coast to Coast AM, First Half: Author and researcher Mitch Battros will discuss solar flares, climate change, and the Earth’s core and magnetic field.

Mitch is good at what he does. Really good.

Here's a stream for those who may be up that late and want to listen. http://www.newsradioklbj.com/Other/Stream.html

Probably a couple of hours for this discussion. Probably some phone calls too which are often good. The demograph who listen is rather intelligent regardless of popular opinion.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Huge Mars Colony Eyed by SpaceX Founder Elon Musk

http://www.space.com/16918-nasa-mars-human-spaceflight-goals.html

$500,000 a pop. Of course this price will eventually come down after more and more trips and colonies. I'm thinking it will be several decades before it's low enough for us to go. Better get to work on that life extension technology so I can go die on Mars.

 

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[John F Kennedy III]

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What?

 

[Natural Citizen]

$500,000 a pop. Of course this price will eventually come down after more and more trips and colonies. I'm thinking it will be several decades before it's low enough for us to go. Better get to work on that life extension technology so I can go die on Mars.

Well. Here's a look at some of the cheap property. It's not so red...I mean bad.

Go fullscreen. Shop around a bit. http://gigapan.com/gigapans/118975

If you like the view in the slums then maybe we'll see about showing the beachfront real estate. Maybe the forest if'n you like camping. What about fishin? You like fishin? Stay tuned.

Here's a preview. Joseph Skipper's work below, btw. Actual photography is freely available through NASA/JPL/Malin Space Science Systems. I had posted them first but they took up the whole page so...these are smaller.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Well. Here's a look at some of the cheap property. It's not so red...I mean bad.

Go fullscreen. Shop around a bit. http://gigapan.com/gigapans/118975

If you like the view in the slums then maybe we'll see about showing the beachfront real estate. Maybe the forest if'n you like camping. What about fishin? You like fishin? Stay tuned.

Here's a preview. Joseph Skipper's work below, btw. Actual photography is freely available through NASA/JPL/Malin Space Science Systems. I had posted them first but they took up the whole page so...these are smaller.

I think I could handle living in a forest and fishing on Mars

 

[wrestlingwes_8]

quite a disrespectuful and ofensive person, aren't you?

the amount of humus an ecosystem can produce is NOT unlimited. it's simply wrong that it could produce endless amounts of humus.
if it would be that way ... nature would have done so, right? but the amount of humus is dependent on a number of things like climate, water, etc. a peat like you mentioned can only exist under certain circumstences.
let's start with the basics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_horizon
as you rightly mentioned ... it took nature hundrets and thousands of years to create those bogs in ireland. it didn't happen over night. and it happened under certain (wet) conditions which only exist in some places in the world. for example in northern europe, in one of the most densly populated areas of europe. good luck setting it under water again.

in untouched natural areas the humus layer can be at max. 3 soil horizons thick (source: Bodenkundliche Kartieranleitung, 5. Auflage, Hannover 2005).
another question ... where does the humus come from? is it created naturally? ... because if so ... it'll take centuries to regenerate natural bogs. which would be a good thing anyway if it could be done. and still it wouldn't be enough.

ok. so there goes again another one of your theories... let's eliminate the next one.

the reforestation of the rainforest. yeah ... good luck with that. everybody wants that besides a few people who actually don't care and cut it down. tell them they should stop.

and then we make the desserts green. good luck creating your irish peat in the sahara dessert with your unlimited thick humus layers.
you know what? it'll cost an "unlimited" amount of money, time and energy if you will do it the way it was done in this little piece of land. but still it'd be great to make the desserts green.
i'm all for it. it would take centuries, unthinkable amounts of money and workforce to make the sahara green, i don't know where you'll take all the water from ... which is already lacking in some of those areas ... but still ... i like the idea.

the max planck institute actually looked up the possibilities for europe. well, no chance that with reforestation and similar solutions you could solve the problem.

growing trees for sure is a way to reduce the co2 amount in the atmosphere. but they do it already. and it's not enough. in austria the land covered by forests increased over the last decades. and it did so in other regions of europe and the world. including the us i think.

there are MANY things people have to do. not one thing. and it wont help if you live in fantasy land.
what is needed are pragmatic and doable solutions for the short and the long run. in all possible ways. not just one way.

as an architect i'd say that there are huge amounts of possibilities to reduce the amount of engergy an average household needs. to name one example.

Just watch this video and then PLEASE stop pretending to talk about something you no nothing about. For those of you who are too lazy to watch the video and then still babble about the impracticalities of permaculture, watch from 33:25 - 33:50 and then you will truly understand how permaculture can be applied to large-scale projects.