CFL Spent $350,000 on a pro-war Colorado candidate

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He may not even know what's going on.

The people involved in this may not have told him..

Or if they have, the sweet man may not get the whole story...

Or they tell him the truth and he just really doesn't want to face it tonight and needs to compose himself.....


whatever, we can't depend on RP we have to depend on ourselves.
 
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This makes me so sad that we have so much in fighting within the Liberty movement. We are destroying our selves from within. Please don't give up yet on C4L. This is a new organization and they made a mistake, hopefully this will never happen again. We must hold C4L and ourselves accountable and continue the momentum.
We have seen the country fall apart from within, we are all awake now, let's not destroy what we have accomplished. We need to all stay involved and not allow one bad apple or mistake like this ruin the organization. Go replace the RINO's, let's watch while the Commie Democrat's is destroyed from within the Democrat party, start a Libertarian party, but please not C4L. I don't want to give up on the GOP yet and if I do change parties it would be Libertarian, but I want C4L to be successful regardless of my party affiliation. We are leaders in our own community's and C4L, we can still control C4L locally by becoming PC's, continue to do rally's, write letters, email, and vote.
 
This forum should have formed their own group. We should have not given that away. It isn't too late. The grassroots that started it all and financed it needs to step up and take it back, control it and keep it on the strait and narrow.

Call it: Grassroots For liberty (G4L)
 
Winslow Wind said:
This makes me so sad that we have so much in fighting within the Liberty movement. We are destroying our selves from within. Please don't give up yet on C4L. This is a new organization and they made a mistake, hopefully this will never happen again. We must hold C4L and ourselves accountable and continue the momentum.
We have seen the country fall apart from within, we are all awake now, let's not destroy what we have accomplished. We need to all stay involved and not allow one bad apple or mistake like this ruin the organization. Go replace the RINO's, let's watch while the Commie Democrat's is destroyed from within the Democrat party, start a Libertarian party, but please not C4L. I don't want to give up on the GOP yet and if I do change parties it would be Libertarian, but I want C4L to be successful regardless of my party affiliation. We are leaders in our own community's and C4L, we can still control C4L locally by becoming PC's, continue to do rally's, write letters, email, and vote.
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As far as the movement to restore constitutional liberty, it's alive and well. Don't worry. However, the C4L has been long overdue for close examination. In the end, this internal process will only strengthen us as incompetence and organizational bloat is purged.
 
Winslow Wind said:
This makes me so sad that we have so much in fighting within the Liberty movement. We are destroying our selves from within. Please don't give up yet on C4L. This is a new organization and they made a mistake, hopefully this will never happen again. We must hold C4L and ourselves accountable and continue the momentum.
We have seen the country fall apart from within, we are all awake now, let's not destroy what we have accomplished. We need to all stay involved and not allow one bad apple or mistake like this ruin the organization. Go replace the RINO's, let's watch while the Commie Democrat's is destroyed from within the Democrat party, start a Libertarian party, but please not C4L. I don't want to give up on the GOP yet and if I do change parties it would be Libertarian, but I want C4L to be successful regardless of my party affiliation. We are leaders in our own community's and C4L, we can still control C4L locally by becoming PC's, continue to do rally's, write letters, email, and vote.
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I want the C4L to be successful too -- but John Tate isn't helping. His response to our outrage, once you strip off the spin-doctoring, was akin to "we don't really care what you think, but we will try and piss fewer of you off by adjusting out rhetoric so that we don't publicly embarrass ourselves."

I've sat by for two years wondering just who this John Tate guy was. On day 1 of the C4L when we met to officially form the org, we were promised a vote for chairman that never took place. It still hasn't taken place. It's now time for that vote to take place -- almost a year and a half late. Better late than never.

It's not "everybody else" that's fracturing us, it's John Tate. When you have thousands of pissed off people, and one guy, it's usually the one guy.
 
Rest assured that none of the dedicated people that I know will falter one step.
 
rancher89 said:
Or if they have, the sweet man may not get the whole story...
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If you think RP is some innocent, naive, old man who thinks people in politics must be honest because he grew up in a neighborhood where people didn't lock their doors, then I've got a bridge to sell you. He may be soft spoken, but he's shrewd, politically savvy, and very familiar with the corruption and dishonesty that's endemic to politics. If he keeps his own hands clean from problems like this by way of ignorance on his part, it's as likely as not that keeps his distance from certain things at the operational level of groups he's involved in for that purpose by design.
 
erowe1 said:
If you think RP is some innocent, naive, old man who thinks people in politics must be honest because he grew up in a neighborhood where people didn't lock their doors, then I've got a bridge to sell you. He may be soft spoken, but he's shrewd, politically savvy, and very familiar with the corruption and dishonesty that's endemic to politics. If he keeps his own hands clean from problems like this by way of ignorance on his part, it's as likely as not that keeps his distance from certain things at the operational level of groups he's involved in for that purpose by design.
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I understand, but tey control what he's hearing
 
So anyone knows or are there any credible theory on why C4L did this? The real reason I mean.
 
hugolp said:
So anyone knows or are there any credible theory on why C4L did this? The real reason I mean.
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Likely money. I'm guessing the big CO donor probably gave them more than $350,000, with the understanding that the extra was the CFLs cut.
 
fedup100 said:
This forum should have formed their own group. We should have not given that away. It isn't too late. The grassroots that started it all and financed it needs to step up and take it back, control it and keep it on the strait and narrow.

Call it: Grassroots For liberty (G4L)
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I like it.

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This forum should have formed their own group. We should have not given that away. It isn't too late. The grassroots that started it all and financed it needs to step up and take it back, control it and keep it on the strait and narrow.

Call it: Grassroots For liberty (G4L)


MsDoodahs said:
I like it.

:)
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I called it, form a pac, corporation, whatever, elect a board with term limits and the skys the limit.
 
I, personally, don't think we need to make a new organization as much as unite the ones we have. CfL still has good people in it who are doing good work, and they will have my support. We can and should be forming PAC, Corps, etc, but that is a side issue to building a platform that unites all of the groups. Like we talked of here

Grassroots Portal Project
 
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