Breaking: Paris shootings and explosions near Stade de France kill 129

[luctor-et-emergo]

Lacked security?? What venue has enough security to hold off 3-4 guys with grenades and machine guns???

Well Im not saying it's a 100% guarantee nothing will happen or no harm would be done. However when two terrorists storm a theater like that, they don't really care about security, they just barge in and start shooting to maximize their kills before they die. So, if there's ANY armed security around they could shoot them in surprise. Remember, this is people running and screaming. Flashes and loud noises. There's a lot of chaos. A few security guards around the place could do a lot more than the police minutes away.

 

[jonhowe]

You seem to be obsessed with Assad. The neocons have moved on from that focus, sometime ago, and have been focusing against ISIS. Like, bombing runs on ....ISIS, NOT Assad...

Removing Assad is still the end goal. ISIS is just a middle step.

If Qatar wants that pipeline to Europe to compete with Russia (which is the original support for the entire civil war), Assad has to go.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Point being, is that YOU are predicting that it is Assad who will be blamed for this by the French and their allies. Where it's clearly the rebels from where ever who have moved in to take control of Syria.

Assad will not be "blamed", but some will use this as an excuse to go after Assad anyway. John Kerry was talking about Assad today. I am reporting what is already happening, not a vague prediction, no matter how predictable it is.

North Korea was called out as part of the "Axis of Evil" after 9/11, so it's not unprecedented for them to take advantage of a situation.

 

[wizardwatson]

So your answer is "venues under increased threat of terrorist attacks". The Bataclan was not such a venue.

So, what small-mid sized venue that is not holding an event specifically designed to anger radical islamists has enough security to hold of 4 guys with machine guns and explosive belts.

Most shows I go to in NYC have zero armed security, just bouncers for drunks.

Military parade?

Anyway, I'm joking. I actually agree with your point that there really isn't a solution to pinpointed terrorist attacks on soft targets. If we don't find a political solution then we're all headed for Israel scenario, where we've got the angry and stupid separated from the comfortable and stupid by walls and troops and kids running around stabbing each other and throwing rocks.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

[h=2]Syria’s President Assad says Paris attacks result from France’s aiding of rebels[/h]
November 14 at 11:25 AM

BEIRUT — Syrian President Bashar al-Assad suggested Saturday that French support for opposition forces in his country’s civil war led to Friday’s Islamic State-claimed attacks in Paris that killed at least 127 people.
In comments published by Syria’s official news agency, SANA, the embattled leader called on Western states to stop aiding “terrorists,” a term used by Syria’s government for all insurgent groups. France backs Syrian rebel groups and has been a particularly vocal opponent of Assad during the nearly five-year-old conflict.





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[euphemia]

I have FoxSnooze on right now. It is just supreme ignorance to suggest the French do not have the intelligence or military strength to deal with this attack. Their military history goes back over 2000 years. They compare to the best on the planet and always have.

 

[navy-vet]

Assad will not be "blamed", but some will use this as an excuse to go after Assad anyway. John Kerry was talking about Assad today. I am reporting what is already happening, not a vague prediction, no matter how predictable it is.

North Korea was called out as part of the "Axis of Evil" after 9/11, so it's not unprecedented for them to take advantage of a situation.

I can see that. Personally, I think that would be a very very bad idea, a terminal mistake in fact, to take on the Russians, Iranians, ISIS and Assad all at once. I hope that they aren't that damn stupid. But we will see. We didn't attack North Korea, so there is that.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Assad will not be "blamed", but some will use this as an excuse to go after Assad anyway. John Kerry was talking about Assad today. I am reporting what is already happening, not a vague prediction, no matter how predictable it is.

North Korea was called out as part of the "Axis of Evil" after 9/11, so it's not unprecedented for them to take advantage of a situation.

Yup, I've already heard a couple pundits making the connection to Assad.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Yup, I've already heard a couple pundits making the connection to Assad.

Did you see Amanpour on CNN? My head exploded.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

[h=2]Syria’s President Assad says Paris attacks result from France’s aiding of rebels[/h]

Unfortunately, France has played a large role in the creation and expansion of ISIS by supporting their "revolutions" in Libya and Syria.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Did you see Amanpour on CNN? My head exploded.

LOL, no I hadn't seen that one:

Cristiane Amanpour was just on CNN with Erin Burnett. She said that not one country has stopped the war in Syria by defeating Assad and ISIS. She went on to elaborate and say that we need "transition and elections" in Syria, apparently after defeating Assad. She also said that every global leader she talks to has this "concern", and the upcoming G20 was going to address the Syria problem.

...yea, and after those elections return a majority for radical Islamist candidates, I guess we can sponsor a military coup - like in Egypt.

Because...

Democracy!

?

 

[navy-vet]

How many dead? 158 or 129?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

How many dead? 158 or 129?

They keep changing the number.

 

[twomp]

You seem to be obsessed with Assad. The neocons have moved on from that focus, sometime ago, and have been focusing against ISIS. Like, bombing runs on ....ISIS, NOT Assad...

Wow aren't you naive? ISIS was allowed to grow SPECIFICALLY to remove Assad and you somehow think they have "moved on" from that? Have you not been paying attention the last few years?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Unfortunately, France has played a large role in the creation and expansion of ISIS by supporting their "revolutions" in Libya and Syria.

True...plus some other regional players like Saudis/Israelis.

Wow aren't you naive? ISIS was allowed to grow SPECIFICALLY to remove Assad and you somehow think they have "moved on" from that? Have you not been paying attention the last few years?

Good point.



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[jonhowe]

Well Im not saying it's a 100% guarantee nothing will happen or no harm would be done. However when two terrorists storm a theater like that, they don't really care about security, they just barge in and start shooting to maximize their kills before they die. So, if there's ANY armed security around they could shoot them in surprise. Remember, this is people running and screaming. Flashes and loud noises. There's a lot of chaos. A few security guards around the place could do a lot more than the police minutes away.

I agree. Armed security, or concert goers.

 

[navy-vet]

Wow aren't you naive? ISIS was allowed to grow SPECIFICALLY to remove Assad and you somehow think they have "moved on" from that? Have you not been paying attention the last few years?

It was my impression that the American people, thank's to folks like the Paul's, made it pretty damn clear that they wouldn't support a war against Assad. Hence the bombing of ISIS against the wishes of those powers that be. Do you have anything besides conjecture to support your position?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I agree. Armed security, or concert goers.

Someone asked me: how did they get into a concert? Don't they always have metal detectors and bag checks?

 

[navy-vet]

I'm beginning to suspect that the smartest folks here are quiet in this matter because they realize that the information is so inaccurate and incomplete that it's a waste of time and energy to comment.

 

[navy-vet]

Someone asked me: how did they get into a concert? Don't they always have metal detectors and bag checks?

Now that's a very good question. Especially if France was in an alleged "high state of readiness" prior to this attack.
What was, if I may ask, your response Brian?