'Black Lives Matter' Organizer Outed as White?

[pcosmar]

That is how evolution works.

If you believe that shit.

I don't. I reject it in entirety. Adaptation,, I can accept. Evolution is bullshit from conception.

 

[erowe1]

No, that's what they're referring to. Those that want it to mean something else specify. The aforementioned Steven Pinker, for example.

This guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker

 

[DFF]

I simply reject the concept of different races of humans. In Totality.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

If you believe that shit.

I don't. I reject it in entirety. Adaptation,, I can accept. Evolution is bullshit from conception.

You're a moron.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

This guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker

Yes. Pinker believes in equality as a moral imperative and a legal construct, but he is a race realist/hereditarian. His work on it is really stellar. If you're actually interested in learning about this topic (which I doubt), you should read his work.

 

[erowe1]

That is what happened, idiot.

So you agree with me then.

What you're saying now is exactly what I've been saying. There is no gene unique to Europe or anywhere else. It is therefore not true that "European genetics came about when the people living there adapted to their environment." Those "European genetics" already existed before that time in the gene pool.

 

[erowe1]

Yes. Pinker believes in equality a moral imperative and a legal construct, but he is a race realist/hereditarian. His work on it is really stellar. If you're actually interested in learning about this topic (which I doubt), you should read his work.

OK. So he does not believe in the social construction of races, and he is an egalitarian.

So that supports what I said about how you used the label "egalitarian." It's totally separate from the belief in social construction of races.

 

[pcosmar]

You're a moron.

Perhaps.. But I am in good company.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

To some it is Self Evident.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

So you agree with me then.

What you're saying now is exactly what I've been saying. There is no gene unique to Europe or anywhere else. It is therefore not true that "European genetics came about when the people living there adapted to their environment." Those "European genetics" already existed before that time in the gene pool.

No. Genes are plastic to the environment. They change over time, and change differently depending on the environment. Also, all non-African races have neanderthal admixture in their DNA, which causes further differentiation. Of course there's no "European genetics" in the sense that putting an individual in Europe results in a change in DNA, but no one has ever argued that. Not in the history of this debate.

 

[DFF]

BLM is gonna try to disrupt the MN state fair on the 29th. Should I go?

BLM people are a bunch of fucking idiots.
Blacks have been killing each other in the US for decades.
The BLM 'tards only came on the scene when a White police officer was involved.
These assholes don't really care about other blacks.
Their purpose is racial agitation. And they're being paid to do this.
They didn't spring out of nowhere as the MSM would lead you to believe.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

OK. So he does not believe in the social construction of races, and he is an egalitarian.

So that supports what I said about how you used the label "egalitarian." It's totally separate from the belief in social construction of races.

It's not seperate for lots of people. That's why Pinker specifies that his egaliatarianism has nothing to do with biology. Gould, Diamond and others don't do that; they are biological egalitarians.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Perhaps.. But I am in good company.



To some it is Self Evident.

Jefferson made it very clear that he believed in inherent differences between the races.

 

[erowe1]

You are woefully ignorant.

To say race is a social construct is to deny significant biological differences. If that's not your argument, then you're just being idiosyncratic and obtuse.

I'm putting the implications of your arguments into one sentence to illustrate how ridiculous they are. It's called "hyperbole", little boy. You don't know anything about this subject. It's like you just spout off things you've heard smart people say and hope against hope that something, anything ​sticks.

It doesn't show that! My God, you're an idiot!

This is exceedingly fucking simple.

WTF are you talking about? Being born in Africa is not the same thing as your genetic ancestry, you stupid little fucktard!

Do I really ​have to get this fucking remedial?

It looks like I do ​have to get this fucking remedial.

That is what happened, idiot.

You're a moron.

If you're actually interested in learning about this topic (which I doubt)

I have to admit, you do have a way with words.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

I have to admit, you do have a way with words.

I calls em like I sees em. Instead of compiling a list of posts of mine, why not actually, you know, educate yourself​ on the topic? I know, I know, I ask too much.

 

[erowe1]

No. Genes are plastic to the environment. They change over time, and change differently depending on the environment.

But only within the limits of the genetic diversity that already exists within the starting population. It's selective breeding, just like what people do with dogs. I can get a German Shepherd from two German Shepherds, or I can breed one from a population of a bunch of other breeds, just like the first German Shepherds came about, because all those other breeds have within their total genetic pool all of the genes necessary to get German Shepherds.

In post 198, when you agreed with what I said in post 196, you were right.

 

[PRB]

But only within the limits of the genetic diversity that already exists within the starting population.

Nobody is suggesting humans can grow wings, if that's what you mean.

It's selective breeding, just like what people do with dogs. I can get a German Shepherd from two German Shepherds, or I can breed one from a population of a bunch of other breeds, just like the first German Shepherds came about, because all those other breeds have within their total genetic pool all of the genes necessary to get German Shepherds.

In post 198, when you agreed with what I said in post 196, you were right.

 

[timosman]

that all men are created equal

To some it is Self Evident.

What about people who have different views on this topic ? Are they still completely equal or can we discern some differences about them ?

 

[PRB]

On what point do they differ with anything I've said?

you believe it's impossible for a person to be 0% African.

 

[pcosmar]

, why not actually, you know, educate yourself​ on the topic? .

For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.

/yawn

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

But only within the limits of the genetic diversity that already exists within the starting population. It's selective breeding, just like what people do with dogs. I can get a German Shepherd from two German Shepherds, or I can breed one from a population of a bunch of other breeds, just like the first German Shepherds came about, because all those other breeds have within their total genetic pool all of the genes necessary to get German Shepherds.

In post 198, when you agreed with what I said in post 196, you were right.

First of all, the amount genes can change over time is vast. You say "within the limits of the genetic diversity that already exists" as though that's something against hereditarianism. A change in environment can have huge changes on the DNA of an organism over generations. Secondly, the neanderthal admixture that isn't present in Africans means there's also a fundamental difference, separate from the adaptation that occurred.