Armed Drone Caught On Camera Outside Chicago Prior To NATO Summit (video)

[pcosmar]

Um, OK. If you can't even admit it is fake after proof that it is fake then you are the one with their head in the sand. Not sure what those unrelated links you posted have to do with this FAKE video. Apparently you think that if there are drones in the united states then it is impossible to fake a video of a drone. Just to let you know, that makes no sense.

I am of the opinion that cameras are not the best tool for the job.

but that is not a widely acceptable option yet.

 

[jmdrake]

OK, Now I know its fake. I took a capture of video where it zooms in a says 'very similar' and pasted the picture of the drone on the website over the top of it (after adjusting the size with the same aspect ratio). It's the exact same picture. They used that picture and just blurred it.

Ummmm....no it's not. The picture is of a drone flying level. The one in the video is banked. The picture has the landing gear down. The video has it up. Your debunking attempt is fake.

 

[jmdrake]

Um, OK. If you can't even admit it is fake after proof that it is fake then you are the one with their head in the sand. Not sure what those unrelated links you posted have to do with this FAKE video. Apparently you think that if there are drones in the united states then it is impossible to fake a video of a drone. Just to let you know, that makes no sense.

You haven't given proof that it's fake.

 

[Lishy]

Ummmm....no it's not. The picture is of a drone flying level. The one in the video is banked. The picture has the landing gear down. The video has it up. Your debunking attempt is fake.

Copy pasta?

I'm not denying there's drones. Just that this story reeks of fake.

 

[jmdrake]

Copy pasta?

I'm not denying there's drones. Just that this story reeks of fake.

What happened to the tail section?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Ummmm....no it's not. The picture is of a drone flying level. The one in the video is banked. The picture has the landing gear down. The video has it up. Your debunking attempt is fake.

You are looking at the wrong picture. The one used to provide the fake drone in the video is the one below the video- not the one in the video insert. And note that the perspective of the "plane" does not change as it supposedly moves across the sky.

 

[fletcher]

So it's fake because it wasn't the best cinematography?

Zooming in on a moving object is a good way to lose it from your field of view if you don't know what you're doing. Plus how do you know this wasn't just a cell phone camera? Most only have "digital zoom" which has the same effect as "adding a zoom later on your computer".

I never claimed they had to zoom, but everyone single person taking a video of a plane would follow the plane with their camera. They made no attempt to follow the plane. Not even to get the plane into view. They waited for it to come into view, and waited for it to leave view. Do you know why? Because there was no plane. It was added afterward. And it is obvious that that zoom was added afterward on a computer. It isn't even questionable.

Ummmm....no it's not. The picture is of a drone flying level. The one in the video is banked. The picture has the landing gear down. The video has it up. Your debunking attempt is fake.

LOL. I never claimed they used the picture from the video.

 

[fletcher]

What happened to the tail section?

The propeller? It either disappeared with the blur or they cut it out when they cropped it. Probably the later because when you include it like I did it keeps the blue sky behind it which makes it too prominent on a cloudy sky.

 

[jmdrake]

The propeller? It either disappeared with the blur or they cut it out when they cropped it. Probably the later because when you include it like I did it keeps the blue sky behind it which makes it too prominent on a cloudy sky.

Nope. Not the propeller. The tail section. Look again.

 

[S.Shorland]

Kerry Lutz saw one patrolling your coast 9:45


EDIT: In the OP video it does seem to become obscured by the cloud twice that I noted.Perhaps it could be the camera autofocus adjusting but it looks like the cloud to me.

 

[fletcher]

Nope. Not the propeller. The tail section. Look again.

I don't know what you are talking about. I've looked at both of the close up in photoshop. It is the same plane. 100% sure. It is a fact. Same angle. Same shadows. Same plane. From the same picture. Blur the plane and paste in on there and there is no difference.

 

[pcosmar]

What we need is to have plenty of still photos of the remains of these atrocities.

perhaps the surviving software posted and mirrored online.



I really don't care if this bit of footage was faked or not,, That is irrelevant to the FACT that it has been announced that they ARE THERE and being used.
This simply should not be.

 

[MelissaCato]

Fake or not, some of you people act like this sorta stuff isn't happening.

http://bcove.me/svio30hk

 

[papitosabe]

based on the size of a drone, couldn't someone calculate approximately how far it is, and measure the speed its going at to see if its accurate? at least estimate it?? also, kind of strange that someone would say, "thats an odd little plane"...just doesn't seem like its something someone would say.. dunno...and why would you stop following it?? usually if someone see's something strange, they would follow the path, not just film it for a few seconds...

I'm not saying there aren't drones, because a few miles from houston, in Montgomery County, sherriff dept has one.... and HR668 is one of the bills I'm most worried about and even though I've seen a few stories and segments about this, I still don't think its getting enough attention... but I'm just calling it as I see it...

 

[pcosmar]

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not fake.

Regardless of whether one was actually being flown around Chicago, (I have no doubt they are, although the video posted may not be actually showing it) they are being flown in numerous places all around the country, and will be flown extensively in the coming years, with full grid surveillance of everything and everybody.

Now, can we at least agree on that, and further agree on the fact that, you can call living under these conditions many things, but what you can no longer call it is freedom in any sense of the word.


4 On Your Side asks: Are drones spying on you?

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2621368.shtml?cat=504

On February 12, 2012, President Barack Obama signed the Federal Aviation Administration authorization bill to a tune of $63.6 billion. Among other things, it paves the way for drones to be flown domestically.

The plan calls for law enforcement to be allowed to fly drones by mid-May. That has already happened. By 2015- civilians.

Unmanned drones are being flown around the clock over Iraq and Afghanistan. They are used to monitor activity and kill terrorists.

Seventy-six hundred miles away, three drones sit inside an unmarked hangar at the Las Cruces Airport. The 500-pound drones belong to the research division of the Physical Science Lab at New Mexico State University. They are flying the drones in Southwest New Mexico for research and development. However, their payload test flights have helped our military fly drones overseas. They have also perfected the use of cameras that can see through clouds and even pick up body heat.

On the subject of domestic drones, Director of NMSU's Physical Science Lab, Phil Copeland says, “One of the main applications going forward is law enforcement, sheriff's and hostage situations."

Law enforcement is one thing, but what about mass surveillance of entire cities by our military? 4 On Your Side investigative team got its hands on a government document (attached at the bottom of the story) that shows how drones will be allowed to spy on Americans on U.S soil. Albuquerque resident Bert Williams says, "That's an invasion of privacy," to the idea of drones spying on us.

In the Air Force intelligence memo, it states the United Sates Air Force can legally spy on Americans using unmanned drones. Now a law recently passed by Congress requires the FAA to streamline the process for law enforcement agencies to fly drones less than 4.4 pounds. So far, no New Mexico law enforcement agencies 4OYS contacted have applied to fly a drone.

Down south, drones are being flown by the military, researchers and the border patrol.

“The White Sands Missile Range is flying predators, they're flying other UAVs in Clovis,” says Copeland with NMSU.

New Mexico Tech also has a waiver to fly drones. Copeland goes on to say, “Sandia Labs and AFRL have applications for them, but don't routinely fly them.”

The Electronic Information Foundation states the FAA estimates that we could see 30,000 drones in the air by 2020, which raises a slew of concerns. The biggest concern is safety. Some of these drones weigh more than a commercial lawn mower and will be used to fly over heavily populated areas.

"We need rules, we needs laws that specifically limit how these technologies will be deployed so they don't wind up harming people," says Peter Simonson, director of the ACLU of New Mexico.

In December, the ACLU released a 16-page report on drones. Its number one concern is privacy.

“We're not saying these drone surveillance technologies shouldn't be used, but they should be used to forward an investigation of a particular crime. Not sort of indiscriminately surveying the public and see what people are up to,” Simonson goes on to say.

Even members of the drone crew have some of the same concerns when it comes to unmanned aerial vehicles humming in U.S. Airspace.

Copeland ends that last part of the interview by saying, “I think it's a legitimate concern, to address privacy. We're concerned about it, it's not just with unmanned…you can put cameras on everything.”

 

[Zippyjuan]

You are right. As the Slate article I posted earlier said at the end of it:

Anyone with half-decent video editing software and a good eye for deception can cook up a hoax in a matter of minutes. The lesson here is that just because a video seems real and appears plausible doesn’t mean it is. It’s clear there are no Predator drones soaring in the skies above Chicago. Not yet, anyway.

 

[jmdrake]

You are right. As the Slate article I posted earlier said at the end of it:

We've gone full circle now on "No plane theories".

 

[Domalais]

Not fake.

Regardless of whether one was actually being flown around Chicago, (I have no doubt they are, although the video posted may not be actually showing it) they are being flown in numerous places all around the country, and will be flown extensively in the coming years, with full grid surveillance of everything and everybody.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, because it's true to what we feel is true.

 

[jmdrake]

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, because it's true to what we feel is true.

It's true to what's been admitted as true. (That there are drones flying over the U.S.)