Armed Drone Caught On Camera Outside Chicago Prior To NATO Summit (video)

Take this for what you will. From Slate online:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t...it_drone_video_is_probably_a_hoax_watch_.html
The Video of a Drone Not Far From Chicago NATO Summit Is Probably a Hoax


Yesterday, several websites reported an apparent surveillance drone sighting in Elgin, Ill. The story, based on a video posted on YouTube (see below), spread as far as to Italy—and on the face of it seemed plausible, particularly given the FAA’s announcement earlier this week of a new, expedited approval process for use of drones by public safety agencies.

Perhaps why it gained some currency is that the NATO Summit is due to take place May 20-21 in Chicago, about 40 miles from Elgin. The user who uploaded the video, which shows what looks like a Predator drone soaring through clouds, noted, “I assume it's for the NATO summit this week as a security measure.”

Not too hard to accept, it would seem. The video has already had more than 100,000 views, with a majority of those commenting on it emphasising how certain they are that it is real. “I live in Chicago I've been spotting these things everyday!” wrote Thurlow92. “They're doing routine sweeps over Chicago and Chicago surrounding suburbs for NATO.”

Unfortunately for the believers, the facts just don’t stack up. A government source familiar with domestic drone policy was unequivocal, telling me, “There are no unmanned aerial vehicles being operated in the Chicago area and particularly no vehicles that look like the one in the video. The vehicle pictured in the video is a very, very large vehicle, and the areas these are permitted to operate are in unpopulated areas for the most part, or where there is not a heavy concentration of people.”

The Department of Homeland Security and the Customs and Border Protection Agency are both known to operate Predator drones domestically—most typically for border surveillance. A DHS spokesperson, however, said, “The aircraft you see in the video is not a DHS/CBP aircraft.”

If any further confirmation was required to debunk the video, it was provided by the FAA, which hands out permissions for the domestic use of drones. An FAA spokesperson said, “No UAS [unmanned aerial systems] operators have asked the FAA to approve UAS operations in the Chicago area to support the NATO Summit, and the FAA has not approved any UAS operations in the Chicago area.”


Anyone with half-decent video editing software and a good eye for deception can cook up a hoax in a matter of minutes. The lesson here is that just because a video seems real and appears plausible doesn’t mean it is. It’s clear there are no Predator drones soaring in the skies above Chicago. Not yet, anyway.
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My own thoughts. Moving pretty quick for a full sized drone so it could be a model. Predator flies at 80 mph top speed which is not that fast. Also these are supposed to be pretty quiet "virtually silent at altitude") yet he spots it well before it enters his field of view where he was looking with his camera like he knew it would be coming by. I think it is fake.

One attempt at debunking: http://thehoaxkiller.com/forum/index.php?topic=102.0

It points out that as the plane moves across the sky, the perspective of it should change (paralax)- on the left side of your view, the right wing of the plane should be behind the middle of the plane and as the plane moves by, it swings to the front of the middle. The drone looks the exact same no matter what angle it is viewed at. Definate hoax. A still photo edited in.
 
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To see it for the first time flying over an American city is absolutely CHILLING!

Well, AJ said it a few years back on his radio show. All these moves in the name of fighting terrorism is really meant for us.
 
pcosmar said:
Yes.
but you're a Pollyanna, so it is expected.
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+rep! The government announces there are drone flights, policies are amended to allow retention of illegal drone surveillance video for 90 days, Charles Krauthammer, no friend of liberty, comments about the drones and that an American would be a "folk hero" to shoot one down, there is a credible report of a drone almost hitting a commercial aircraft, but "Slate.com" posts some rinky-dink article asking the very criminals who fly the drones, and have every reason to lie about the, if that was "one of theirs" and the criminals say "no" and that's supposed to be dispositive because.....?
 
Looks like a fake. If you were filming a plane would you just point your camera at one area of sky and wait for it to fly through without ever following it, and then add a zoom later on your computer? No.
 
OK, Now I know its fake. I took a capture of video where it zooms in a says 'very similar' and pasted the picture of the drone on the website over the top of it (after adjusting the size with the same aspect ratio). It's the exact same picture. They used that picture and just blurred it.
 
OK, Now I know its fake. I took a capture of video where it zooms in a says 'very similar' and pasted the picture of the drone on the website over the top of it (after adjusting the size with the same aspect ratio). It's the exact same picture. They used that picture and just blurred it.

Here's a gif I made
7ZJuRN.gif

With this picture
Unmanned-Predator-Drone.jpg
 
pcosmar said:
Well lets..
there was the drone that crashed in Texas.
the one that just missed an airliner in Denver.
Multiple stories of police agencies getting them or wanting them all over the country.

A military/police buildup in and around Chicago.

but sure,,whatever you want to think..
you may want to stuff your head down a little farther into the sand though.
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fletcher said:
OK, Now I know its fake. I took a capture of video where it zooms in a says 'very similar' and pasted the picture of the drone on the website over the top of it (after adjusting the size with the same aspect ratio). It's the exact same picture. They used that picture and just blurred it.

Here's a gif I made
7ZJuRN.gif

With this picture
Unmanned-Predator-Drone.jpg
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Told ya it's fake, pcosmar! ;)

If we can't trust the government, why should we just naively follow any other info source? :rolleyes:

I'm sure there are freaky ass drones flying in the skies. But we shouldn't be so naive either to believe every one of them.

Some people wish to capitalize on our dissent to get ratings and views.
 
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Lishy said:
Told ya it's fake, pcosmar! ;)

If we can't trust the government, why should we just naively follow any other info source? :rolleyes:

I'm sure there are freaky ass drones flying in the skies. But we shouldn't be so naive either to believe every one of them.

Some people wish to capitalize on our dissent to get ratings and views.
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Perhaps the right question should be.."Why are so many ready to believe a fake?"

In a different Amerika we'd say things like...
"Well, the FAA shot down plans for having UVA's in the skies because they could be dangerous so I'm doubtful this is real."
" Congress has stated that it is unConstitutional to spy on American citizens, so this has got to be a fake."
"Congress has just passed a bill stating that the military has no reason to conduct military exercises in American cities stating that this is a violation of the Constitution."
 
 
JK/SEA said:
seems to be flying kinda low. what if it hit a kids kite and crashed?....
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The kid and his family would be sued and/or arrested for destroying government property. Silly mundanes, go fly a kite on your own property (oh wait we own that, too).
 
What would be the opposite of Pollyanna? Believing bad things because you expect bad things?

“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.”
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Stewart Chase
 
pcosmar said:
It's fake because you faked one?

I suppose you could take a burning bag of poo and superimpose it over the Hindenburg.. but it won't change history.

http://gizmodo.com/5890507/police-drone-crashes-into-police
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/15/israels_drone_dominance/?source=newsletter
http://www2.journalnow.com/news/201...VwAnw5FGb72WycA&shorturl=http://bit.ly/eZjNyd
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme..._mexican_drone_crashes_near_el_paso_texas.php
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/denver-ufo-near-miss-jet_n_1521934.html
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/17/is-there-drone-in-your-backyard/
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Um, OK. If you can't even admit it is fake after proof that it is fake then you are the one with their head in the sand. Not sure what those unrelated links you posted have to do with this FAKE video. Apparently you think that if there are drones in the united states then it is impossible to fake a video of a drone. Just to let you know, that makes no sense.
 
fletcher said:
Looks like a fake. If you were filming a plane would you just point your camera at one area of sky and wait for it to fly through without ever following it, and then add a zoom later on your computer? No.
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So it's fake because it wasn't the best cinematography?

NotSureIfSerious.jpg


Zooming in on a moving object is a good way to lose it from your field of view if you don't know what you're doing. Plus how do you know this wasn't just a cell phone camera? Most only have "digital zoom" which has the same effect as "adding a zoom later on your computer".
 
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