Are you phonebanking For Peter Schiff ?

[qwerty]

MUST SEE IF YOU DON´T BELIEVE ON PHONEBANKING!

YouTube - Phone Banking Results for 7/19 & 7/20

 

[qwerty]

Ya but your opinion is total BS, the Peter Schiff campaign has nothing to do with that.. if you actually studied Peter Schiff's books and watched his speeches like the 2006 Mortgage Banker speech, you would see how truly informed he is about everything related to the economy. He has a better chance of convincing other Senators that we need to become more fiscally responsible than say, Rand, or anybody else. He has the credibility and actually deserves all of this attention he is getting for his book and his business. He is one of the few Americans who deserves all of this, and all you can do is shoot him down. That's horrible.

There is nothing wrong with lending credence to limiting government if you stick to your principles. Taking steps towards reducing government can help many individuals, standing back and letting it happen will hurt everybody.

Lastly, on foreign policy, he wants to end our world empire. That is more than every other politician up there in the Senate. Also, he could just be saying that to get elected as a Republican.

So if Ron Paul candidate was running in your state and you were unaware because the media wasn't giving them exposure, you'd be upset that another person in your country who cared enough gave up their time to call you? Just so you could both perhaps experience more liberty?

You are a pretty ungrateful person.

Couldn´t agree more!

 

[Political Terror]

Ya but your opinion is total BS, the Peter Schiff campaign has nothing to do with that.. if you actually studied Peter Schiff's books and watched his speeches like the 2006 Mortgage Banker speech, you would see how truly informed he is about everything related to the economy. He has a better chance of convincing other Senators that we need to become more fiscally responsible than say, Rand, or anybody else. He has the credibility and actually deserves all of this attention he is getting for his book and his business. He is one of the few Americans who deserves all of this, and all you can do is shoot him down. That's horrible.

There is nothing wrong with lending credence to limiting government if you stick to your principles. Taking steps towards reducing government can help many individuals, standing back and letting it happen will hurt everybody.

Lastly, on foreign policy, he wants to end our world empire. That is more than every other politician up there in the Senate. Also, he could just be saying that to get elected as a Republican.

I think he is right on on most issues when it comes to the economy.I'm not saying Peter Schiff is a bad guy.I just don't believe in what he is doing... sorry!

 

[Political Terror]

So if Ron Paul candidate was running in your state and you were unaware because the media wasn't giving them exposure, you'd be upset that another person in your country who cared enough gave up their time to call you? Just so you could both perhaps experience more liberty?

You are a pretty ungrateful person.

It wouldn't matter if Ron Paul himself were running for Congress in my district. I have no faith in this system anymore.I will not give this system legitimacy by voting for my own enslavement.Every time you vote it tells the system that you still believe in it.

I like like what Ron Paul & Peter Schiff have to say I just don't believe in their tactics.

 

[qwerty]

I think he is right on on most issues when it comes to the economy.I'm not saying Peter Schiff is a bad guy.I just don't believe in what he is doing... sorry!

What you don´t believe in ?


Are you really saying that people from different states shouldn´t talk about politics with each other ?

It wouldn't matter if Ron Paul himself were running for Congress in my district. I have no faith in this system anymore.I will not give this system legitimacy by voting for my own enslavement.Every time you vote it tells the system that you still believe in it.

I like like what Ron Paul & Peter Schiff have to say I just don't believe in their tactics.

Makes me wonder why you are here if you don´t believe in RON PAUL! Or is your mission here to tell us that we shouldn´t support Ron Paul or Peter Schiff etc ?

BTW, www.ronpaulforums.com


You must be trolling man...

 

[Political Terror]

Couldn´t agree more!

Well there is a shocking statement.

 

[dannno]

If you had the choice between the govt. stealing 5% of your income and 60% of your income, and you chose not to participate which resulted in the 60% route, and you found out that if you had participated you could have helped reach the 5% route.. wouldn't you be disappointed

That extra 55% results in more wars, loss of freedoms and weak economy. The 5% may not be perfect, but the results will likely still be positive. Humans are able to overcome a tiny bit of tyranny and still produce great societies. Doesn't make the tiny bit of tyranny right, just preferable to overwhelming tyranny.

 

[qwerty]

Well there is a shocking statement.

What ?

Not agreeing with you... agreeing with Dannno...

 

[Political Terror]

What you don´t believe in ?


Are you really saying that people from different states shouldn´t talk about politics with each other ?



Makes me wonder why you are here if you don´t believe in RON PAUL! Or is your mission here to tell us that we shouldn´t support Ron Paul or Peter Schiff etc ?

BTW, www.ronpaulforums.com


You must be trolling man...

What part of "I like what Ron Paul and Peter Schiff have to say" says to you that I don't believe in Ron Paul. What I said is I don't believe in their tactics.

it's funny how you've resorted to name-calling and attacks on behalf of Peter Schiff...... did you clear that with the campaign headquarters first?

 

[dannno]

What part of "I like what Ron Paul and Peter Schiff have to say" says to you that I don't believe in Ron Paul. What I said is I don't believe in their tactics.

it's funny how you've resorted to name-calling and attacks on behalf of Peter Schiff...... did you clear that with the campaign headquarters first?

I don't think that everybody needs to use the same tactics to reduce government intervention into our lives. I don't know that I will take the route of a politician, in fact I highly doubt it, but I don't see how being in a position to write and pass legislation that takes away those powers is a bad tactic We should be supporting any and all tactics that we can which will affect positive change. It's not like they are doing anything to increase government power first, they are literally stripping away powers that technically aren't authorized to begin with. How can that possibly be negative?

 

[qwerty]

What part of "I like what Ron Paul and Peter Schiff have to say" says to you that I don't believe in Ron Paul. What I said is I don't believe in their tactics.

it's funny how you've resorted to name-calling and attacks on behalf of Peter Schiff...... did you clear that with the campaign headquarters first?

I give up, this is useless conversation since you don´t even want to talk about the issues.

Feel free to troll but i will ignore you for now on.

 

[Political Terror]

If you had the choice between the govt. stealing 5% of your income and 60% of your income, and you chose not to participate which resulted in the 60% route, and you found out that if you had participated you could have helped reach the 5% route.. wouldn't you be disappointed

That extra 55% results in more wars, loss of freedoms and weak economy. The 5% may not be perfect, but the results will likely still be positive. Humans are able to overcome a tiny bit of tyranny and still produce great societies. Doesn't make the tiny bit of tyranny right, just preferable to overwhelming tyranny.

Unfortunately a hundred years of American history & American politics are not on your side in this argument.

people in this country for the last hundred years have not been voting for their own enslavement and robbery.

And yet it happens anyway...... and my guess it will continue to happen regardless of who votes for who.

 

[Political Terror]

I give up, this is useless conversation since you don´t even want to talk about the issues.

Feel free to troll but i will ignore you for now on.

ok then take care

BTW you guy is losing in the poll

 

[qwerty]

ok then take care

BTW you guy is losing in the poll

Come back when you have something to say....It´s so obvious that you are here to troll.

BTW, Elections matter not these polls...

 

[jmdrake]

I'm not sure how attacking people with the temerity to actually take you up on your "offer" to explain why they voted no helps Peter Schiff get more phonebanking done. But I do at least appreciate the answer you put up for option "No I don't have a landline". I actually saw a Schiff support last week attack people for not calling after admitting "I'm not calling because I don't have a phone". Talk about a lack of personal responsibility!

That said I will do some phone banking when I get too it. Too busy at the moment. But there are other local liberty candidates who have a better chance of winning and who I actually agree with more. That's the thing this election cycle. It's not just Schiff and Rand running. (And yeah I know if Schiff wins it will be so great and so awesome and flower petals will fall from the sky etc.)

 

[dannno]

(And yeah I know if Schiff wins it will be so great and so awesome and flower petals will fall from the sky etc.)

Not so sure that ya do but ok

I'd trade Rand and another random liberty candidate for Schiff getting in.. he is the MAN...

 

[libertarian4321]

Why I'm not calling:

1. As a one time telemarketer (in college), the phone banking is about as appealing as going to the dentist. I'd have to be really into a candidate to do it- I did it for Ron Paul, but Schiff isn't Ron Pauljust doesn't meet that threshold- partly because I've heard some things about him that I not thrilled about, and partly because...

2. ...he doesn't have a realistic chance of winning. The latest Rasmussen poll (yesterday) has him at less than 5% in the Republican primary (McMahon is at 52%, and Simmons at 38%- that ain't good, folks). If I call 100 voters, it's not likely to move him from 5% to 50+%.

Even if he pulled off a miracle of Biblical proportions and managed to win the Republican nomination, he'd likely get crushed like a grape in the general election. None of the three Republicans (McMahon, Schiff or Simmons) scores well against the Dem- they'd all be solidly defeated, but Schiff scores the worst of the three (He lost the poll 52-34 vs. Blumenthal). Schiff is an extreme fiscal conservative, and extreme conservatives don't win statewide races in NY/CT/MA.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub.../connecticut/election_2010_connecticut_senate

His numbers were only slightly better in a Quinnipiac poll last week.

3. Like many Ron Paul supporters, I don't like being told what to do- whether from government, politicians, or other people. This thread has the wrong tone, like you are pushing us into doing something rather than asking us (I got the same impression from Schiff's video). That doesn't inspire me to want to help.

So, while I gave him a small monetary donation previously, I'm not going to volunteer to make calls.

 

[Jordan]

Might as well leave a comment since you made the poll public, likely in an attempt to "out" the people who aren't "doing their part." So here's my explanation, chew me out all you want. I'm used to it.

1) I practically cold call for a living. So, if I'm going to make a phone call, its going to benefit me, not for the benefit of 300 million other Americans who I couldn't care less about. I'd much rather donate (which I have, but will not donate any more) than make phone calls.

2) Schiff hasn't much of a chance of winning. He's polling at 13% in the republican primary, and down even further in the general. McMahon, Schiff, nor Simmons can beat Blumenthal.

3) Schiff has said he wants only 1 term in the senate. So, knowing that, why would we put so many resources into someone who doesn't want to be there for very long. In politics, the highest cost from the grassroots comes in getting the person in, and hoping that their voting record keeps them there. With Schiff, this one time effort doesn't pay residual dividends, and that's simply a bad investment. Also, see #2.

4) As for why I won't donate any further, well, I'm not to happy with how funds are being spent. Peter suffered from name recognition. So, rather than run short ads that plastered his name everywhere and got more frequency for the $, he ran 1 minute spots. That's marketing fail 101.

I'm sure there's more, that's just off the top of my head.

 

[dannno]

The last two posters didn't even have the courtesy watch the video in the OP which debunks much of both of their posts.

 

[tpreitzel]

The last two posters didn't even have the courtesy watch the video in the OP which debunks much of both of their posts.

If you can, simply ignore them. We're called to work. The chips will fall where they may. Even IF Peter doesn't win the primary and decides to permanently bow out of running for political office, he'll still remain a major force in the politics of the state of Connecticut as a result of our current effort. As with Kokesh, we really can't lose in the long run by working to support constitutional candidates.