Another note about the 4th of July money bomb

[princessredtights]

yes thats why i got back at him this way:

ha!

I love it!

 

[ItsTime]

how much is BTM making off the donations?

 

[angelatc]

how much is BTM making off the donations?

Why do you care? Do you think that the candidates are all too stupid to cut a fair deal, that Trevor is actually Svengali ?

The money doesn't go through BTM. The individual campaigns are responsible for paying him at the end of it all. They stand to get ripped off, not us.

 

[ItsTime]

Why do you care? Do you think that the candidates are all too stupid to cut a fair deal, that Trevor is actually Svengali ?

The money doesn't go through BTM. The individual campaigns are responsible for paying him at the end of it all. They stand to get ripped off, not us.

why do I care where how my donation is being spent is what you are asking?

 

[BuckOFive]

why do I care where how my donation is being spent is what you are asking?

Did someone in your family mentally abuse you? Did you have parents that yelled at you a lot or hit you? Do they still?

I'm actually being very serious.

 

[angelatc]

why do I care where how my donation is being spent is what you are asking?

What donation would that be?

If you don't trust your candidate to invest your money properly, then perhaps you should find a better candidate.

 

[ItsTime]

Did someone in your family mentally abuse you? Did you have parents that yelled at you a lot or hit you? Do they still?

I'm actually being very serious.

Are you a paid spammer from BTM?

What donation would that be?

If you don't trust your candidate to invest your money properly, then perhaps you should find a better candidate.

so that this is the type of transparency BTM and these "freedom candidates" support? Ask a very simple, easy to answer question, so I can make a well informed donation, and this is what you get. And you all are wondering why this money bomb is a huge failure.

 

[angelatc]

Are you a paid spammer from BTM?

so that this is the type of transparency BTM and these "freedom candidates" support? Ask a very simple, easy to answer question, so I can make a well informed donation, and this is what you get. And you all are wondering why this money bomb is a huge failure.

Like I said, perhaps you should find a candidate that you trust. I mean, it you think Trevor is evil wait until you see your candidate having lunch with McCain, or Pelosi, knowing that it's on your dime.

Transparency worked so well with the delegate selections I can't believe you're still naive enough to believe it's a good idea to share intimate details on the internet.

It event isn't a failure as far as I am concerned, because we have more money this evening than we had this morning. No thanks to you, of course.

Do you really think that libertarian leaning candidates should never have paid staffers? Do you really think that those volunteers should never develop enough skills to earn a living out of it?

Let me assure you that I am absolutely thrilled to know that people like Trevor are willing to risk their entire lives to continue working with the Revolution.

 

[ItsTime]

Transparency worked so well with the delegate selections I can't believe you're still naive enough to believe it's a good idea to share intimate details on the internet.

It event isn't a failure as far as I am concerned, because we have more money this evening than we had this morning. No thanks to you, of course.

Do you really think that libertarian leaning candidates should never have paid staffers? Do you really think that those volunteers should never develop enough skills to earn a living out of it?

Let me assure you that I am absolutely thrilled to know that people like Trevor are willing to risk their entire lives to continue working with the Revolution.

Um delegates are different. You are comparing apples and oranges. Like I said before Ill just wait for the quarter numbers to come out and look at what BTM took.

Paid staffers are fine. Im just trying to be well informed. Which when it comes to BTM a lot of people dont want people to be. Sad to see the type of "dont ask questions" mentality coming from people representing campaigns.

 

[BuckOFive]

Are you a paid spammer from BTM?

No I'm not. Now I've answered your question.. so are you a victim of abuse? I take a bit of an angry tone with you in some of my posts- because it's so easy to do with you - but I actually do think you have been abused. I think it's obvious.. and even though I think you're extremely misguided I do feel sorry for you.

 

[ItsTime]

Are you a paid spammer from BTM?

No I'm not. Now I've answered your question.. so are you a victim of abuse? I take a bit of an angry tone with you in some of my posts- because it's so easy to do with you - but I actually do think you have been abused. I think it's obvious.. and even though I think you're extremely misguided I do feel sorry for you.

never been hit, never been abused. no need to feel sorry. Im sorry if you get upset when people ask questions.

 

[BuckOFive]

never been hit, never been abused. no need to feel sorry. Im sorry if you get upset when people ask questions.

I don't get upset when people ask questions. No need to feel sorry for me. For the record I think you're lying. I think you an abuse victim.

 

[ItsTime]

I don't get upset when people ask questions. No need to feel sorry for me. For the record I think you're lying. I think you an abuse victim.

lol ok. I never even got spanked as a child. I would not slander my parents any further, its against board rules.

 

[BuckOFive]

lol ok. I never even got spanked as a child. I would not slander my parents any further, its against board rules.

Well IF you are telling the truth.. it must be a chemical imbalance or something.

 

[Roxi]

no offense trevor.... you didn't make it suck

 

[MsDoodahs]

Keep it civil, please, people!

 

[pacelli]

Did someone in your family mentally abuse you? Did you have parents that yelled at you a lot or hit you? Do they still?

I'm actually being very serious.

Not nice. Not nice at all.

 

[EastWindRain]

So how much did the July 4th money bomb raise? $6000 bucks? Just curious.

 

[rs3515]

I'd recommend checking out what is being done with Freeople in regards to candidate (and group) contributions. See the video here: http://www.freeople.com/blog/raise-funds-faster-with-freeople/293

• Focused specifically on freedom-minded candidates and supporters.
• Lowest transaction fee of any online political community.
• Ability to bundle together transactions to ensure credit card companies get a smaller cut, and candidates and groups get more.
• Groups can fund raise for any cause or activity.

The site has recently gone live and expecting to have many candidates joining in the coming weeks. As well, registered users can 'rate' the candidates ... Freeople is not in the business of dictating which candidates will have the most success, it's all about letting the free market decide.

 

[constituent]

In my eyes the greatest value we received for raising $4.3 million dollars for Ron Paul was in the publicity we received, not the fact that the campaign had the money. I think most would agree with me and this is due to the fact that we received what I would estimate to be well over $10 million in publicity for the event.

On November 5th we had about 36,000 donors pull together to raise $4.3 million dollars. Then on December 16th we beat our record by bringing about 67,000 donors together to raise over $6 million dollars. But, to our dismay we barely got any publicity for the second money bomb event. At that point I thought it would be good strategy to try to show our numbers. If you'll remember we were fighting the "he can't win syndrome" that was raining down in full force on our efforts. Raising a large amount of money was great, but it hadn't been enough to convince a person on the street that we had large numbers and the he COULD win. The only thing that we could do that was different, that stood a chance of gaining massive publicity, and would help us convince those who liked Ron Paul but thought he was a wasted vote, would be to have over 100,000 people donate on the same day. Even that wasn't going to be a cure all but in my mind it was a move in the right direction. It would be a huge morale booster and would give fresh ammo to our argument and cause.

There were other factors as well. 1.) We had just underperformed in the NH primary which hurt morale. 2.) a lot of people were writing me telling me they were very upset there was no recount and that they wouldn't donate again. 3.) Many supporters had depleted their funds with two huge money bombs 4.) no publicity from December 16th meaning less motivation going forward.. and so on. So, I thought it would much easier for us to go with a lower minimum number so that everyone could participate. The pledge was for $10 or more so I thought we could certainly raise millions of dollars as well.

and herein lies the crux of the problem... i think the word publicity was used a minimum of ten times in the quote above.

publicity is great for self-promotion/ego-boost but does f* all for convincing people to caucus or vote for a candidate.

rather than focusing our efforts on THAT, much attention was diverted in efforts to "get publicity," and the results speak for themselves.

publicity may line pockets, but it doesn't (necessarily) get people elected.