A Fertilizer Plant Just Exploded Near Waco, Texas

Sounds like they just used water on the fire, the mayor had no clue what ammonia fertilizer is...and he is a firefighter, so that should tell you something.

He didn't really act as if he didn't know what anhydrous ammonia was. He just acted as if he wasn't sure what they guy was asking. It's fertilizer. I've spread it on corn, and I'd probably give the reporter the same look.

They may have sprayed the fire with water. That's certainly possible. But I don't think he didn't know what it is.
 
He didn't really act as if he didn't know what anhydrous ammonia was. He just acted as if he wasn't sure what they guy was asking. It's fertilizer. I've spread it on corn, and I'd probably give the reporter the same look.

They may have sprayed the fire with water. That's certainly possible. But I don't think he didn't know what it is.

I mean if you are Mayor, and a Firefighter wouldn't you know what they make at that plant? Risk Management 101 is to identify hazards like this plant, and know what is inside it. Then you can be like, oh we need to have xyz incase something ever occurs there.
 
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I mean if you are Mayor, and a Firefighter wouldn't you know what they make at that plant? Risk Management 101 is to identify hazards like this plant, and what is inside it.

Honestly, if that happened in my hometown, I would be just a little shell shocked.
 
The blast was huge - fortunately it looks like the plant did have some set back from residences:

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It looks like such a small fertilizer plant compared to others I've seen.
 
OK, it looks like it was a really bad taste joke or something, I wonder how 8 of 139 could have 'found it helpful'...

read from bottom up:

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@PepperLSnyder She's almost guaranteed a visit from the Feds with that post. What a loon.

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@j3VOL agree with you, totally uncalled for. Some people get off on this kind of event... mental disorder
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@PepperLSnyder Here's where it was posted. @kimfeil pic.twitter.com/nqdO3sRVWI

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You're disgusting @kimfeil <-- Environmental activist pic.twitter.com/kzbe2F0yE0
 
There are many kinds of fertilizers. That said, they do not just go off like that. This is so for ammonium nitrate, whose energetic chemical bonds are not particularly highly stressed, which means they are stable. That is why fuel oil is required to turn it into an explosive; it acts as a sensitizer and even then when one lights off ANFO, cursory post-event examination will show undetonated ammonium nitrate all over the place. In other words, it is not an efficient explosive agent. ANFO will only detonate via intense shock such as a blasting cap provides. You can light it on fire and it will not detonate, much as is the case with C4 and, IIRC, semtex.

Therefore, the plant probably went up by some other means. It is possible a dust explosion occurred, and those can be extremely powerful. If so, then there must have been a massive safety systems failure because this is a major issue for any facility producing finely divided combustible materials, wheat flour being just one example.

Perhaps we may keep an eye on this with some interest to see how the story evolves.

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor that the Boston devices were at least initially thought to have possibly been triacetone triperoxide. If so, then whoever is responsible is SERIOUSLY insane. It is a primary high explosive compound of highly strained and thereby unstable bonds. My understanding is that the synthesis path is VERY dangerous and as likely to kill the manufacturer as any intended targets. Has anyone else heard anything similar?
 
I mean if you are Mayor, and a Firefighter wouldn't you know what they make at that plant? Risk Management 101 is to identify hazards like this plant, and know what is inside it. Then you can be like, oh we need to have xyz incase something ever occurs there.

You overestimate those infected with libido dominandi. I know enough about these small towns that use volunteer FD's and there's always a minority percentage of firefighters that are also mayor, councilmen, and school board members. Unfortunately these types often obtain leadership roles within the fire department. They didn't become a fire fighter for anything other than libido dominandi though. It's a status symbol.
 
There are many kinds of fertilizers. That said, they do not just go off like that. This is so for ammonium nitrate, whose energetic chemical bonds are not particularly highly stressed, which means they are stable. That is why fuel oil is required to turn it into an explosive; it acts as a sensitizer and even then when one lights off ANFO, cursory post-event examination will show undetonated ammonium nitrate all over the place. In other words, it is not an efficient explosive agent. ANFO will only detonate via intense shock such as a blasting cap provides. You can light it on fire and it will not detonate, much as is the case with C4 and, IIRC, semtex.

Therefore, the plant probably went up by some other means. It is possible a dust explosion occurred, and those can be extremely powerful. If so, then there must have been a massive safety systems failure because this is a major issue for any facility producing finely divided combustible materials, wheat flour being just one example.

Perhaps we may keep an eye on this with some interest to see how the story evolves.

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor that the Boston devices were at least initially thought to have possibly been triacetone triperoxide. If so, then whoever is responsible is SERIOUSLY insane. It is a primary high explosive compound of highly strained and thereby unstable bonds. My understanding is that the synthesis path is VERY dangerous and as likely to kill the manufacturer as any intended targets. Has anyone else heard anything similar?

What about anhydrous?
 
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