12 year old girl arrested for doodling on her desk, sues NYC

[j6p]

You know the sentence you wrote. (It just tends to leave everything a bit) Sounds like an obscure post to me.

 

[Krugerrand]

You know the sentence you wrote. (It just tends to leave everything a bit) Sounds like an obscure post to me.

Pardon my observation, I suggest you take one of Melissa's last two suggestions. It isn't worth getting upset over.

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You could take it personally, or you could ignore it, or you could choose to take a secondary glance at your posts to determine whether or not they convey the meaning you intend.

 

[j6p]

Just pointing out her obscure post.

 

[MelissaWV]

I apologize for not spelling out the word "confused" and, instead, utilizing an emoticon confused : ). I also couldn't tell that was your objection until the other poster pointed it out.

Effective communication is a vanishing talent.

"god hlp us al"

If you would rather argue about it than actually clarify what you meant (which you could have done several times over by now), then the point was probably not that great.

Have a great day, doll.

 

[Brian in Maryland]

One word, HOME SCHOOl!

Don't give a bunch of goons authority over your children.

 

[j6p]

People should take responsibility for there own kids. Melissa your a troll.

 

[JeNNiF00F00]

Kids have been drawing on desks forever, its nothing new. Ive seen old desks that were carved into. If the girl got busted, she should have gotten detention for a week, and they should have made her clean every desktop in her grade after school. The parent should have been called as well with explanation of why the child was being held after school.

Oh, and I got busted doing this in 2nd grade and I got paddled. I didn't do it again...until highschool. lol

 

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2636482&postcount=11

I apologize for not spelling out the word "confused" and, instead, utilizing an emoticon confused : ). I also couldn't tell that was your objection until the other poster pointed it out.

Effective communication is a vanishing talent.

"god hlp us al"

If you would rather argue about it than actually clarify what you meant (which you could have done several times over by now), then the point was probably not that great.

Have a great day, doll.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Kids have been drawing on desks forever, its nothing new. Ive seen old desks that were carved into. If the girl got busted, she should have gotten detention for a week, and they should have made her clean every desktop in her grade after school. The parent should have been called as well with explanation of why the child was being held after school.

Oh, and I got busted doing this in 2nd grade and I got paddled. I didn't do it again...until highschool. lol

paddled? That wasn't allowed in any school I attended. If any teacher paddled my kid I'd paddle his face

 

[MelissaWV]

People should take responsibility for there their own kids. Melissa your you're a troll.

You still never took the time to clarify the post in question. All of this time available, and I still have no idea what you were saying.

The accusation of trolling is interesting, as your first contribution to the thread was to place blame on parents of a teenager for that teenager being fondled by TSA representatives. You also stated this youngster "destroyed" property by writing on it with a marker.

Perhaps that should be revisited:

Of course, she didn't destroy it. She drew on it. She should have been responsible for restoring it to its original state, with the additional punitive damage of maybe cleaning the other desks of ink/scribbles. Her parents could have rightfully been made aware of this, and it would be important to let them know why their little darling was late from school (because she was cleaning) or to arrange for a time when she could do the detention.

The assertion that "problem kids" are purely the fault of parents is as narrow-minded as the notion that they are absolutely only the fault of the schools. There is plenty of blame to go around, but in this case, it falls more heavily on the idiots who decided it was wise to whip out the cuffs and treat someone like a felon for scribbling on a desk. Discretion was absent from the entire scene.

Moreover, "problem kids" do not always turn into "problem adults." Various people in this very thread have posted admissions of far more "criminal" activity, but they're doing just fine. The school overreacted, and overusing "where are the parents?" just helps it fall on deaf ears. You can't control your children 100% of the time. When they make a bad call, they should be punished accordingly, not carted off in cuffs for coloring on a desk.

Unfortunately, the way she was treated is absolutely preparing her for adulthood, where she could be shot or shocked for failing to obey commands, and where blame will be shifted everywhere but to the people who are actually responsible for the behaviors involved. On one side, she is being coddled and held absolutely blameless by some because of the outcome. On the other, the police are shifting blame around and hunting for good excuses as to why this happened. In the end, she was not appropriately punished for what she did, and the police will not face appropriate consequences.

 

[JeNNiF00F00]

paddled? That wasn't allowed in any school I attended. If any teacher paddled my kid I'd paddle his face

Thats because soon after they stopped paddling kids at school and now look at what most of them have become. I got paddled almost on a daily basis, just for daydreaming or talking. Can you imagine that happening today?

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Thats because soon after they stopped paddling kids at school and now look at what most of them have become. I got paddled almost on a daily basis, just for daydreaming or talking. Can you imagine that happening today?

No lol. I think it's more of a statism thing than it is a disciplinary thing

 

[moostraks]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2636482&postcount=11

lol...

 

[Anti Federalist]

lol...

I still chuckle at all the types described:

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm

 

[Sandman33]

paddled? That wasn't allowed in any school I attended. If any teacher paddled my kid I'd paddle his face

It was normal when I was in gradeschool and started being disallowed when I hit middleschool. And I can tell you one thing for sure.

Class was much more organized and when the teacher spoke kids listened.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

It was normal when I was in gradeschool and started being disallowed when I hit middleschool. And I can tell you one thing for sure.

Class was much more organized and when the teacher spoke kids listened.

because they were intimidated. that's not a healthy environment

 

[osan]

Computers are your friend.

[url]http://schools.nyc.gov/SchoolPortals/28/Q190/default.htm[/URL]

J.H.S. 190 Russell Sage

Address:
68-17 AUSTIN STREET
QUEENS, NY11375

Just up the road from where I used to live @ 82-67 Austin St. I know that school.

This sort of overreaction has become the standard. It is ridiculous.

 

[osan]

I hear you, but just last week they tazed a 10 yr old in an Indiana school.

Are you serious? Was the child lunging at them with a straight razor? A gun? Please tell me they were doing something genuinely dangerous.

 

[angelatc]

paddled? That wasn't allowed in any school I attended. If any teacher paddled my kid I'd paddle his face

It's funny how the people that don't have kids tend to have the "best" ideas about how to raise them.

Sadly, it's the kids with parents just like this that actually need paddling. People that hyperventilate at the thought of another adult correcting their kids rarely actually correct their kids.

If I got paddled at school, I'd damned sure get another one when I got home. Teachers today aren't allowed to punish bad behavior. But there's no denying that the schools were better before corporal punishment was banned.

 

[osan]

I'm having a hard time reading today .... I started off reading this as she DROLLED on her desk.

I'm sure she'd have been arrested and perhaps even beaten or raped by police had she drolled on the desk.