101 Reasons to move to New Hampshire

Teaching isn't my first choice TBH, its what the parents want. Personally, I want to be a lawyer and get involved in local-level government. I cannot stand Ohio so there is no way I'm staying here long-term. I obviously have a lot to think about if I would make the move eventually, so I's like to know more about the job market.

We could use additional pro-liberty lawyers in NH! Heck, HB 146, the fully informed jury bill, would not have passed the NH House or the NH Senate without the help of several pro-liberty lawyers. The UNH law school is in Concord but there are plenty of other law schools all over the county if you decide not to go to that school.

At least 3 practicing lawyers have moved up to NH as part of the FSP. We have a great deal of resources to help you find a job whether you want to be a teacher, lawyer or something else :)

Truth is, I might even have a history degree myself. The rumor is, if I did have a history degree, I am not using it :)
 
Ok, Keith, sell me on this.
I really, really like Virginia.
But I really want a motorcycle.
The wife says not as long as we live in the DC area.
I like sex more than motorcycles, so that's the end of that argument.
If I move to the boonies of Virginia, I'm giving up multiculturalism, and I've decided I like that a lot.
I work with people from all over the world, I get to go out and eat things on a lark at lunch that people in southern VA have never heard of.

Here's my question.
If I move to NH, will I be able to find an asian market where I can buy maki-length surimi sticks?
If so, where?
(If it's in a place where I can get a 3/2 and a couple acres for <200k, then it's a pretty done deal.)
 
Fisharmor,

Just buy all your food online!

I don't know what New Hampshire has, but in southern NH you're awfully close to Boston which has all that food variety of course.
 
Here's my question.
If I move to NH, will I be able to find an asian market where I can buy maki-length surimi sticks?
If so, where?
(If it's in a place where I can get a 3/2 and a couple acres for <200k, then it's a pretty done deal.)

Yay! That shouldn't be a problem.

I'll bet the Asian market on Maple near South Willow in Manchester has it. They're not a huge store, but they're pretty big for an all Asian store. They have a big fish counter with all kinds of seafood, and lots of vegetables I've never heard of.

And I think you can find a place meeting your requirements within a 20-30 minute drive from Manch.

Edit: Saigon Asian Market
 
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Not to be negative on this but I recently moved to NH briefly. Although I didn't really connect with the Liberty movement much, I really encourage people to exercise caution when considering making this move. Given there are a lot of crappy places to live which might make NH an easy choice. The enthusiasm of Liberty and inroads made by supports there is commendable. But overall quality of living needs an honest assessment. The population is very small and the majority are not Liberty supporters. I don't hate the place but was happy to leave it recently and suggest one picks a state to live primarily based on comfort and standard of living. If you are miserable you won't give a damn about politics, IMO.
 
I don't hate the place but was happy to leave it recently and suggest one picks a state to live primarily based on comfort and standard of living. If you are miserable you won't give a damn about politics, IMO.

To better assess what you mean; please define "comfort" and "standard of living"? And which state(s) do you suggest are better in that respect?
 
#102 - So all of the liberty-minded people can sit on a reservation while the rest of the country goes to Hell.
#103 - So we won't have to do all of the hard and sometimes nauseating work of mingling with, educating, and awakening other Americans.
#104 - So we can replicate the great political successes of the hippie communes of the 60's and 70's.
#105 - So we can sit around and tell each other how smart we are.
#106 - So the original residents of New Hampshire can fear and resent a big influx of "outsiders" trying to hijack their state.
 
Not to be negative on this but I recently moved to NH briefly. Although I didn't really connect with the Liberty movement much, I really encourage people to exercise caution when considering making this move. Given there are a lot of crappy places to live which might make NH an easy choice. The enthusiasm of Liberty and inroads made by supports there is commendable. But overall quality of living needs an honest assessment. The population is very small and the majority are not Liberty supporters. I don't hate the place but was happy to leave it recently and suggest one picks a state to live primarily based on comfort and standard of living. If you are miserable you won't give a damn about politics, IMO.

Why is it bad that it has a low population? Some people like that. Its also easy to change as opposed to larger and more populous states.

And of course "the majority are not liberty supporters", if they were, Ron would have won New Hampshire.

Do you know somewhere where the majority are liberty supporters?
 
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#102 - So all of the liberty-minded people can sit on a reservation while the rest of the country goes to Hell.
#103 - So we won't have to do all of the hard and sometimes nauseating work of mingling with, educating, and awakening other Americans.
#104 - So we can replicate the great political successes of the hippie communes of the 60's and 70's.
#105 - So we can sit around and tell each other how smart we are.
#106 - So the original residents of New Hampshire can fear and resent a big influx of "outsiders" trying to hijack their state.

On #102: What's your alternative? Keep the liberty minded people spread out while the entire country goes to hell? At least if they concentrated they can make a difference in one state.

On #103: Uh, you can still mingle with other people in New Hampshire, there's only like 1000 free staters and they're not all in one place.

On #104: Except that they want to effect the politics in the state and interact with the other people there and not simply set up some kind of separate society / isolationist commune.

On #105: Same thing as #103. There's something wrong with getting together with like-minded people? That's how organization is done in a free society.

What's with the hostile attitude?
 
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Big things are about to happen in New Hampshire.

Been hearing that for years now. Keep plugging away at it. Worth the try.

BTW, the site has me has having pledged in '04. I pledged way back - one of the early adopters, do to speak. What is up with that?
 
#102 - So all of the liberty-minded people can sit on a reservation while the rest of the country goes to Hell.

I see why someone could think that, but the opposite is true for me. I beleive that liberty decreases in most of the world every year and has been doing so most years for decades. Out of all of the ways to change that, I see the FSP as the best way to change that. The idea is to create a free state, prove to the world that liberty works, and inspire the rest of the world to at least consider liberty. It is already working. Other state governments are copying the reforms we put in place in NH. Liberty activists in other states are copying our creations such as a phone number if people need help, a winter Liberty Forum event, a summer camping festival event and a legislative liberty rating scorecard.

#103 - So we won't have to do all of the hard and sometimes nauseating work of mingling with, educating, and awakening other Americans.

Someone may choose to do or not do that anywhere. The people moving to NH tend to be some of the most dedicated liberty activists in the world. Some of us are full time liberty activists who spend up to 70 hours or so a week doing liberty activism. However, people only able to do a few hours per week of liberty activism are also welcome to join and move to NH. It takes all types :)

#104 - So we can replicate the great political successes of the hippie communes of the 60's and 70's.

There was some research into what happened in VT. VT used to be one of the most conservative states in the US. Lots of people from NY and other places with leftist leanings moved to VT. Now look at it. In case you weren't aware, Mercatus ranked VT as the #2 freest state in the US for personal freedom. http://mercatus.org/freedom-in-the-50-states/VT There is nothing wrong with studying non-violent strategies used by other activists groups throughout the world.

#105 - So we can sit around and tell each other how smart we are.

That is one of the main uses of internet forums. A lot of the people who take the time to move to NH, are move of what you would call doers. Most of us tend to try to be the positive change we want to see in the world, not just sit on the internet and talk about it. Different people take different strategies. Some people write for the existing newspapers. Some people start new newspapers. Some people create radio shows. Some people create podcasts. Some people create TV shows. Some people help with existing TV shows. Some people create blogs. Some people help with existing blogs. Some people run for office and get elected. Some people help pro-liberty people get elected or reelected. Some people create pro-liberty lobbyist groups. Some people work for already existing groups. Many people do a large variety of activism.

#106 - So the original residents of New Hampshire can fear and resent a big influx of "outsiders" trying to hijack their state.

In NH, around 60% of the population was born somewhere else. Around 25% of NH state legislators were born in MA. NH has been the traditional haven where people from New England who fill oppressed have moved to since the puritan times when Quakers were killed for being Quakers in MA. Many people, over 100s of years, have left NH because there was too much liberty in NH for them.

As for hijacking, that is not at all the case. Before the FSP folks voted on a state, the governor of New Hampshire joined the FSP as a friend of the FSP and welcomed us here. The Speaker of the House welcomes us here. The Senator Majority Leader, a former US Congressman, welcomes us here. The state paper, the Union Leader welcomes us here and features many articles written by free staters. The main TV station did a 30 minute documentary on us, welcoming us here. A former US Senator has spoken at our Liberty Forum event.

I agree that free staters do a large variety of types of activism in NH and some of the activism upsets some people. It's true! You cannot control everyone and you cannot please everyone. Some people in NH hate liberty.
 
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Great, but what good is a nice beach if the water's too damned cold to swim? I lived in Mass. going to school and spent my share of time at the beaches north of Boston. All I can say is BRRRRRRR.

Lake swimming is plenty warm and comfortable in the summer.

Ocean swimming anywhere north of Cape Ann is pretty uncomfortable without a wetsuit.
 
#103 - So we won't have to do all of the hard and sometimes nauseating work of mingling with, educating, and awakening other Americans.

LOL.

Yeah, good luck with that, trying to drag 300 million hateful, uncaring and unknowing people to freedom, that do not want it.

Like teaching a pig to whistle.
 
Lake swimming is plenty warm and comfortable in the summer.

Ocean swimming anywhere north of Cape Ann is pretty uncomfortable without a wetsuit.

Say that to the hundreds of thousands of people at Hampton Beach and Old Orchard Beach every summer :) OK, I admit, some of those people don't get in the water. On the other hand, I've enjoyed Seabrook Beach, Hampton Beach, New Castle Beach, York Harbor Beach and Sand Beach. It might take some getting used for people used to swimming in Mexico or FL, but the water is fine. Heck, there are even less sharks :)

Seabrook Beach, NH
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Hampton Beach, NH http://www.hamptonbeach.org/
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New Castle Beach, NH
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Old Orchard Beach, ME http://www.oldorchardbeachmaine.com/
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York Harbor Beach, ME
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Say that to the hundreds of thousands of people at Hampton Beach and Old Orchard Beach every summer :) OK, I admit, some of those people don't get in the water. On the other hand, I've enjoyed Seabrook Beach, Hampton Beach, New Castle Beach, York Harbor Beach and Sand Beach. It might take some getting used for people used to swimming in Mexico or FL, but the water is fine. Heck, there are even less sharks :)

LOL - I agree.

Even the moose like it.

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That's York Beach.

Now the kids and I go here.

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This information compares the breath test refusal rates of drivers. It should be mentioned that in some states, it is now a bad idea to refuse a breath, urine and blood test. In some states, if you refuse, the government has the ability to restrain you and take a test, anyway.

Driving Under the Influence: What are “No Refusal” Laws?
Cecil Helton
December 15th 2011
http://www.carinsurance.org/2011/12/what-are-no-refusal-laws-125/
Refusal rates vary from state to state. Florida Massachusetts and Louisiana have nearly 41 percent of DUI suspects refuse to submit to a breathalyzer test. And some are off the charts, such as New Hampshire. But in a state who’s motto is “live free or die,” it might not come as a surprise that more than 80 percent of DUI suspects refuse to breathe into the plastic tube.

Breath Test Refusal Rates, 2005
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration looked at the 38 states with records. State refusal rates varied from 2.4 percent in Delaware to 81 percent in New Hampshire. The average refusal rate was 22.4 percent, and the median refusal rate was 17.4 percent. The weighted mean of the refusal rates based on State populations in 2005 was 20.9 percent.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/Traffic Injury Control/Articles/Associated Files/811098.pdf
1. NH 81%
2. TX 47%
3. MA 41%
4. FL 40%
5. LA 39%
5. OH 39%
...
34. ME 7%
35. NE 6%
36. CA 6%
37. VA 3%
38. DE 2%

Breath Test Refusal Rates, 2001
This information is over a year old, which is why I listed the 2005 information first. Also, this information is just estimates based on looking at a graph with the information. The information is from 41 states.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nti/pdf/809876.pdf
1. RI 85%
2. NH 83%
3. MA 47%
4. LA 46%
5. TX 43%
...
37. KY 10%
38. HI 9%
39. ME 8%
40. NE 6%
41. CA 5%

It should be noted that RI changed the law in 2006 to discourage people from refusing. Even though the law was made stricter and more comprehensive in RI, I don't know if refusal rates dropped in RI. It is possible that RI still has the highest refusal rate.
Prior to June 28, 2006, refusing a chemical test carried a lower penalty than a DUI, which resulted in a greater number of citations for chemical test refusals. The significant number of refusals severely limited the availability of BAC data and hindered proper problem identification. On June 28, 2006, Governor Carcieri signed legislation doubling the license suspension for a first offense refusal; criminalizing second and subsequent offenses; increasing fines, imprisonment, and license suspensions; and requiring community service. The intent of the law was to make the choice of chemical test refusal less attractive and increase BAC data.
http://www.dot.state.ri.us/documents/highwaysafety/RI_HSPP_FFY2012.pdf
 
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I would overlook the cold and move there if NH would eliminate property taxes. Otherwise for me it is just another state to live as a slave to the state and the man.
 
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