101 Reasons to move to New Hampshire

[muzzled dogg]

I'm going to PorcFest 2012 and hoping to move to NH in 2013 .

cool man ill see u there

 

[Victor Grey]

If you move from Hartford CT to Greene TN:

You might meet me.

 

[Keith and stuff]

You might meet me.

You live in TN? Cool. I used to live there. It was way too statist for me. The biggest pro-liberty victory we had in TN according to most people is the TN Tax Revolt fight where we stopped the government from creating a person income tax. So many of us poured are hearts into that effort. I traveled so ridiculously far. TN is a very long state! However, it was a huge lose. Sure, we stopped the income tax but the largest tax increase in TN history passed. It was close to as much money as the government wanted to get with an income tax. The sales tax went up, vending machine taxes went up and various other taxes all went up.

A more recent major victory in TN is the ability for an adult to carry a firearm at Chili's or Outback Steakhouse after spending hundreds of dollars, weeks, getting a photo ID and giving the government your finger prints. People spent decades getting that victory in TN. In NH/VT, a child has always been able to strap on a firearm, walk into Chili's, Outback Steakhouse or a bar and eat. No money, training, ID or finger prints needed. It was like that 50 years ago in NH and if things keep going the way they are going, will be like that 50 years from now in NH.

If even 1% of the people in TN would even take the time to vote for liberty, maybe things would change there. After the big loss in 2000 and hearing so many people call it a victory, I knew the TN culture was very anti-freedom and that I'd never get liberty in my lifetime in TN. My experiences with 3rd parties in TN were even worse. While Libertarians were being elected state Rep in NH, there was pretty much nothing happening in TN. I know 2 liberty folks that also used to live in TN. They are both Ron Paul endorsing state Reps in NH now. I'm not running for state Rep. but I hope to win my first election this year.

 

[Keith and stuff]

New Hampshire is the 3rd most active state in the US.

SGMA Says: 220 Million Americans Are ‘Active’, Yet 68 Million Americans Are ‘Inactive’
Date: 4/9/12
http://www.sgma.com/press/442_SGMA-...,-Yet-68-Million-Americans-Are-%91Inactive%92

Highest percentage of active residents in a state:
1. Utah (61%)
2. Idaho
3. New Hampshire
4. Colorado
5. Minnesota

46. Tennessee
47. New Mexico
48. Louisiana
49. West Virginia
50. Mississippi (32%)

An article covering this.
Kids resist 'couch potato' trend
Overall numbers climb, but rates tumble for youngsters
5:33 PM, Apr. 21, 2012
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20120422/SPORTS/304220018/Kids-resist-couch-potato-trend

 

[Keith and stuff]

Same thing as last year, New Hampshire was named one of the most peaceful states in the US.

Most Peaceful States: Lower number is better
ME 1.31
VT 1.55
NH 1.55
MN 1.61
UT 1.72

Least Peaceful States: Lower number is better
LA 4.05
TN 3.41
NV 3.37
FL 3.36
AZ 3.32

What factors were looked at and how strongly were they weighted into the report?
Homicides 4 (more equals bad for this survey/study)
Violent Crime 4 (more equals bad for this survey/study)
Incarceration 3 (more equals bad for this survey/study)
Police Employees 3 (more equals bad for this survey/study)
Small Arms 1 (more equals bad for this survey/study)

The only figure that doesn't make sense is Small Arms. Well, when you look at the fact that Europeans conducted the survey, it makes sense. The exact quote was "in a perfectly peaceful state, citizens would have no need to own firearms for the purpose of self-defense, and therefore there would be no ownership of small arms." While that quote is laughable, small arms was by far the least important factor in the report. In fact, if small arms was taken out of the report, the top 7 states, where known small arms ownership is average to high, would have done even better. States 8 (HI), 9 (RI), 12 (MA) and 14 (CT) where reported small arms ownership is low, would have done worse. At least for the top 7 states, it isn't a factor of any importance.

PDF report http://www.visionofhumanity.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2012-United-States-Peace-Index-Report.pdf

 

[Keith and stuff]

The NH Senate became the 1st Republican controlled state senate in the US to pass an effective medical marijuana bill.

On March 28th, New Hampshire’s Senate became the first Republican-led state senate in the nation to pass an effective medical marijuana bill, SB 409. Republicans control the NH Senate 19-5 and the bill passed by a 13-11 vote with 8 Republicans and all 5 Democrats voting for the bill. The prime sponsor of SB 409 is Ron Paul endorsed and endorsing Republican, Sen. Jim Forsythe. Other sponsors include Ron Paul endorsing Sen. Ray White and Ron Paul endorsing Rep. Jenn Coffey, along with 3 other elected officials. Other Senate supporters of the bill include Senate Health and Human Services Committee Chair Sen. Jeb Bradley (a 2 term US Congressman and supporter of FSP participants moving to NH.)

Last year, the House passed a different medical marijuana bill in a 229-96 vote, with more than half of Republicans voting in favor. On April 25th, Sen. Forsythe's medical marijuana bill passed the House by an even stronger margin, 236-96. Republican control 74% of the seats in the NH House and SB 409 passed the NH House with 71% of the votes cast being votes for the bill.

This isn't the first time NH has passed a medical marijuana bill. Various bill have passed the NH House or the NH Senate over the years. In 1981, a bill passed the Republican legislature and then Governor Hugh J. Gallen didn't oppose the bill. In fact, the bill was pushed by the Republican Senate President, Vesta Roy. Governor Gallen died while in office and Roy became the next governor of NH. Unfortunately, while the bill did become law, it was written so that it would only be enforced in NH if the federal government's policy banning medically marijuana was ended. Unfortunately, according to the federal government, medical marijuana is still illegal in all 50 states and so the 1981 NH medical marijuana law is symbolic.

 

[Dissent]

I should have moved the family to NH instead of SD when we moved least year. Eh maybe we will get to visit some day.

 

[Keith and stuff]

NH is 3rd for the lowest percentage of tobacco smokers in the US. NH has the lowest percentage of smokers in New England even though it has the lowest tobacco taxes in New England.

Smoking rates according to Gallup-Healthways:
1. UT 10.4%
2. CA 16.7%
3. NH 17%
4. ID 17.4%
50. KY 27.6%
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/world-no-tobacco-day-smoking-rate-state_n_1556840.html

NH also collects the most tobacco taxes per capita in the US. The tobacco taxes NH collected in 2010 equaled 11.2% of total state taxation revenue. Clearly, much of the tobacco sales go to out of state people funding the NH economy and government. Thank you out of staters. Tell your friends, visit NH again and continue to spend your money here.
http://mercatus.org/sites/default/files/publication/ExciseTaxesintheStates.Stratmann.Bruntrager.pdf

 

[Vanilluxe]

I would like to go to New Hampshire, it has the same weather as the Bay Area although it snows, though there is a lot less in that small state than the vibrant growing cities in the Silicon Valley/Bay Area with lots of activities to do.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I would like to go to New Hampshire, it has the same weather as the Bay Area although it snows, though there is a lot less in that small state than the vibrant growing cities in the Silicon Valley/Bay Area with lots of activities to do.

????

SF Bay area has below zero temps every winter?

 

[matt0611]

I would like to go to New Hampshire, it has the same weather as the Bay Area although it snows, though there is a lot less in that small state than the vibrant growing cities in the Silicon Valley/Bay Area with lots of activities to do.

I''m not sure what "Bay Area" you're referring to, but I've been to the SF Bay Area and I assure you that New Hampshire (and the rest of New England for that matter) does NOT have the same weather as the SF Bay Area! I wish

 

[Dianne]

The Free state project is a failure, if New Hampshire is no better than the rest of the united states. Idaho and Montana see like the best candidates for a real free state project.

Agree ...... Isn't there already a fsp in Montana? Or am I thinking of Wyoming?

 

[Keith and stuff]

Agree ...... Isn't there already a fsp in Montana? Or am I thinking of Wyoming?

No, there is neither. A few people tried to copy the FSP idea for WY/MT/ID. That project never went anywhere. I think a person did move to MT. No one moved to ID.

There is another copy group called Free State Wyoming. It is lead by Boston T. Party. He is a writer that comes to New Hampshire to speak at liberty events. For example, he will be speaking at the Porcupine Freedom Festival this month in Lancaster, NH. A person who moved to WY as part of FSW is on this forum. He said that he may be the only person that moved to WY as part of the FSW that is politically active.

There are many hundreds of people who moved to NH as part of the FSP that are politically active. In fact, there are around 100 people that moved to NH as part of the FSP that have been elected, already. Several more of us are running for the 1st time this year, so hopefully, once we get elected, the number will be over 10%. That means around 10% of the people moving to NH as part of the FSP are getting elected to office. That is also about the same percentage of us who have run for office.

Dianne, NH is not only the freest state in the US, it is also the easiest state to bring about political reform and has the most decentralized form of government in the US. Why do you think it is a failure and not far better than MT as a free state candidate?

2011 Freedom State Rankings
NH
#1 Overall
#2 Economic
#11 Personal
MT
#29 Overall
#25 Economic
#33 Personal
http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011

MT had some pretty special freedoms in the 90s but the people decided they didn't like most of those freedoms and got rid of them.

????
SF Bay area has below zero temps every winter?

LOL. Well, that doesn't happen to all of NH every year. Many a year goes by where beach communities like Hampton and Seabrook and some of the near by towns don't reach those temps or only do for 1 day.

Edit: We just had a new mover from Wyoming to NH as part of the FSP. This means we have had at least 1 mover from MT, ID and WY to NH. All those movers are still here in NH, working towards liberty.

 

[Keith and stuff]

According to the National Taxpayers Union Foundation, for 2011 the New Hampshire US House delegation ranked the 4th thriftiest delegation out of the 56 state and territory delegations looked at.

Ranking of State and Territory Delegations for being Thrifty
#1 KS
#2 UT
#3 SC
#4 NH
#55 Virgin Islands
#56 Washington DC

Frank Guinta ranked the 7th thriftiest member of the US House out of the 438 members looked at. His bills proposed spending cuts of more than $374 million.

#1 Trent Franks (AZ) his bills proposed $428.7 million in spending cuts
#2 Jason Chaffetz (UT)
#3 Jeff Duncan (SC)
#4 Billy Long (MO)
#5 Lynn Westmoreland (GA)
#6 Mike Pompeo (KS)
#7 Frank Guinta (NH)
#9 Jeff Flake (AZ)
#16 Tom McClintock (CA)
#42 Connie Mack (FL)
#55 Michele Bachmann (MN)
#66 Mike Pence (IN)
#82 Justin Amash (MI)
#438 John Conyers (MI) his bills proposed $1.45 billion in spending increases

http://www.eagletribune.com/newhampshire/x1561286849/N-H-delegation-is-thrifty-Bay-State-Not-so-much
http://ntu.org/ntuf/billtally.html

 

[Keith and stuff]

Concord, New Hampshire was ranked the #1 Micropolitian area out of the 576 Micropolitian areas looked at in the US on the 2012 Economic Strength Rankings by Policom Corporation.

To be fair, here are the NH rankings for all of the Micropolitian areas in NH according to the Economic Strength Rankings.
Micropolitian areas ranked (out of 576 markets)
#1 Concord, NH (#1 in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2012)
#8 Lebanon, NH/VT
#15 Laconia, NH
#45 Claremont, NH
#51 Keene, NH
#274 Berlin NH/VT (this totally makes sense as the Berlin area has a contracting economy and population)
#576 Silver City, NM (not in NH but listed for comparison)

Again, to be fair, here are the New Hampshire rankings on the Economic Strength Rankings of 366 Metropolitan areas.
#38 (out of 366) Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA/NH
#40 (out of 366) Manchester-Nashua, NH
#366 Danville, IL (not in NH but listed for comparison)

See the whole list and read all of the criteria for yourself in the 23 page PDF document http://policom.com/PDFs/2011EconomicStrengthsmallfilesize.pdf

 

[farreri]

Keith (and stuff) , there any plans for a free state out in the west? NH is a little too far east for me.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

www.freestateproject.org/files/101-Reasons-to-Move-to-NH.pdf

With over 8,000 members already signed up, there is little argument against this cause. In fact the only good argument is the cold weather.

But that will be taken care of soon enough. Until we take over more regions, just how Liberty-minded are you?


www.freestateproject.org

In a Democratic Republic, the economy recovers when people from states with fallacious economies move to those states that have real ones. As president Obama and Congress have been cohorting together to legislate unemployment benefits endlessly in order to prevent a mass exodus from happening that generally takes place during these types of recessions, to the extent they have created a lot of lazy people out there. Therefore, when the mass exodus does happen, as it will have to happen in order for the economy to recover, there is going to be a double dip recession. Those states which the people are moving towards to find jobs won't have to suffer so much during this next recession as those that keep hanging onto what amounts to social communism.
Gee, this isn't even a prediction. Look, I don't believe in magic. Indeed, it is all just tricks. There is no magical scheme here. There is just the right way. As I've often said, we solve our problems on the local level; and, we lobby away our souls on the national. In Texas we are concerned about Texas. Up in Massachusettes, they seem to be are concerned, Kennedy wise, about the plight of the homosexuals going on clear around the world way over in Bosnia.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

We are about to make a move and are deciding between Montana, Texas and New Hampshire.

They each have their own perks but as this expands I see all 3 of those being apart of this anyways SO maybe I can focus on getting land in each.

In long term goals which 5 states to do you see us "taking back" or higher priority? Odds are some were close to NH when you were choosing.

We are looking to move SOMEWHERE away from CALIFORNIA in the next 6 months to a year.

I work for myself and my wife is a new RN, hows the medical field in NH? I know that is for sure hit n miss in Montana but texas still has decent jobs for nurses.

I want to go where it makes sense to go and I have been watching free state project videos from NH all morning and afternoon and feel sold LOL. Felt like I just finished one of those time share demos in vegas but in a good way lol.

any info would be great.

 

[Acala]

I think it depends somewhat on what you think the future holds. If you see the nation limping along much as it has for the last few decades, with an economy that more or less works in that food and fuel and housing and clothing are generally available to nearly everyone, and without significant civil strife, then a place like New Hampshire that seems to have developed some serious pro-liberty momentum might be the place to go.

On the other hand, if you think we are headed for serious economic collapse - like hyperinflation - with the likely result of hunger and civil unrest, and Federal mandates over-riding state law, then I think the political advantages of New Hampshire will be quickly blown away by the close proximity of millions of people who are likely to be hungry, angry, and desperate. In that case you might want to consider a state where the locally produced food supply exceeds the needs of the population for a substantial distance in every direction.

 

[TCE]

I think it depends somewhat on what you think the future holds. If you see the nation limping along much as it has for the last few decades, with an economy that more or less works in that food and fuel and housing and clothing are generally available to nearly everyone, and without significant civil strife, then a place like New Hampshire that seems to have developed some serious pro-liberty momentum might be the place to go.

On the other hand, if you think we are headed for serious economic collapse - like hyperinflation - with the likely result of hunger and civil unrest, and Federal mandates over-riding state law, then I think the political advantages of New Hampshire will be quickly blown away by the close proximity of millions of people who are likely to be hungry, angry, and desperate. In that case you might want to consider a state where the locally produced food supply exceeds the needs of the population for a substantial distance in every direction.

In a SHTF scenario, Northern New Hampshire will generally be fine. There is plenty of rural farmland up there with people producing things at least half the year. Manchester, NH, on the other hand, will not be so good. Nashua, NH as well I can imagine having some serious problems because of its proximity to Boston. Anywhere from Concord north should be fine.

The real question newyearsrev, is whether you think your wife could get a job in NH. Scour the job market and see what you can find. Note that NH is more affluent than the average state and has a much lower unemployment rate. The situation in Texas isn't as rosy as Rick Perry and the media make it seem. I would look into one of the many suburbs NH has for a compromise. In a SHTF scenario, you are removed from the big cities, but at the same time, you are close enough to them that your wife could probably find a job. Good luck in your search!