H Roark
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I finished watching Zeitgeist a couple days ago after I read Michael Nystrom's review, which he pulled down a couple hours later. I have to admit that it was thought provoking and compelling, but in the end offered the wrong solution.
The first half of the movie which dealt primarily with economics was excellent, except for the fact that it attacks the free market. The creator, Peter Joseph wrongly equates MANAGED TRADE with free trade. Under real free trade, there would be no exclusive trade agreements amongst nations therefore if a country wanted to protect a certain industry from competition they could do so.
I would recommend watching Addendum even just for the section on Economic Hit Men and the interview with John Perkins. This gives the viewer a good perspective on the economic arsenal the U.S. has at its disposal in terms of subjecting other nations to their whim of commercial interests.
The 2nd half of the movie is total crap. It asserts that human nature is completely shaped by environment; you could have a whole movie just on that single issue! I disagree with the premise Zeitgeist makes that if nobody had to work that they would voluntarily be productive HAH! Zeitgeist also suggests that the only solution is to not have a monetary system at all but to adopt a resource based economy under a single world government with NO LAWS!
Don't worry this film isn't all about economics, after all it wouldn't be a Zeitgeist film unless Peter Joseph injected his brand of new-age spirituality. Apparently we have to loss all attachment to religion, culture and national identity to attain the utopia envisioned in the film.
I think Peter Joseph is a smart guy, but that he feels he has to one-up the Ron Paul crowd by offering a solution that is sooo far out and counter to our message. Whats ironic is that the Wikipedia entry for Addendum says
Could not be any further from the truth.
The first half of the movie which dealt primarily with economics was excellent, except for the fact that it attacks the free market. The creator, Peter Joseph wrongly equates MANAGED TRADE with free trade. Under real free trade, there would be no exclusive trade agreements amongst nations therefore if a country wanted to protect a certain industry from competition they could do so.
I would recommend watching Addendum even just for the section on Economic Hit Men and the interview with John Perkins. This gives the viewer a good perspective on the economic arsenal the U.S. has at its disposal in terms of subjecting other nations to their whim of commercial interests.
The 2nd half of the movie is total crap. It asserts that human nature is completely shaped by environment; you could have a whole movie just on that single issue! I disagree with the premise Zeitgeist makes that if nobody had to work that they would voluntarily be productive HAH! Zeitgeist also suggests that the only solution is to not have a monetary system at all but to adopt a resource based economy under a single world government with NO LAWS!
Don't worry this film isn't all about economics, after all it wouldn't be a Zeitgeist film unless Peter Joseph injected his brand of new-age spirituality. Apparently we have to loss all attachment to religion, culture and national identity to attain the utopia envisioned in the film.
I think Peter Joseph is a smart guy, but that he feels he has to one-up the Ron Paul crowd by offering a solution that is sooo far out and counter to our message. Whats ironic is that the Wikipedia entry for Addendum says
Could not be any further from the truth.
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It fails to understand the sheer basic fundamental concept of what money actually is.. a means of exchange.. There is also the unsaid abolition of property... who controls the means of production? Well they attack capitalism, so surely they don't mean private ownership... SO then you have PUBLIC ownership? SOCIALISM. Abolition of property - Thank Karl Marx for that too... 
Great quote.
