You Won't Believe What Public Policy Polling (PPP) is Saying!

Anyone shocked by these type of tricks by the corporate media propaganda machine simply doesn't realize it is it's precise nature to do them. :rolleyes:

You should see on CNN just a moment ago on the show: Reliable Sources

They are again in overdrive with hit pieces on Ron Paul, just regurgitating everything they have done the past week or so. There is this one guy from NY Times that just made this statement: "Well if Ron Paul gets First Place in Iowa, I guess we can reflect back on that and say, we could have done more". (somewhat paraphrased)

We could have done more? What's more? Walk up and shoot him in the head? Would have that been enough to keep him out of First Place? This is unreal.
 
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Perhaps this is a pre-explanation for a Santorum surge to be shown in their polls later tonight though.
 
Well I think I will have to capitulate Santorum's surge. The evidence is simply irrefutable. On Dec 14th he had a moneybomb planned for the 14th-16th. In this MB, he was hoping to raise $250k for the 3 days. He came up very short and extended the MB for about a week, in which time he had raised about $230k of his goal. Since his surge, he is now currently at $257k!!! At this rate, he will raise $500k by Memorial day!

This surge in polls and fundraising in almost, unprecedented, and UNbelievable!!!

Go Rick!
 
This scares me cause it basicaly means they are detecting the surge as well. On the other hand if these people can be this effected by one poll..... how are they going to react to speechs during the caucus.

It all comes down to that. A great speech made at the caucus plus enthusiasm for RP can sway people with soft support at the last minute. Wonder if speeches for Santorum are going to inspire people to vote for him. It actually might make people switch to someone else.
 
It was to be expected, but it is still amazing to see the establishment throw everything including the kitchen sink at Paul.

So, we have the multiple time a day ambushes on the exact same newsletter questions, the highly edited interview from Iowa and this poll from CNN.
 
Well I think I will have to capitulate Santorum's surge. The evidence is simply irrefutable. On Dec 14th he had a moneybomb planned for the 14th-16th. In this MB, he was hoping to raise $250k for the 3 days. He came up very short and extended the MB for about a week, in which time he had raised about $230k of his goal. Since his surge, he is now currently at $257k!!! At this rate, he will raise $500k by Memorial day!

This surge in polls and fundraising in almost, unprecedented, and UNbelievable!!!

Go Rick!

Hugh Hewitt was pushing this thing a LOT too.

Moneybomb, what a thief.
 
So, we have the multiple time a day ambushes on the exact same newsletter questions, the highly edited interview from Iowa and this poll from CNN.

A concerted effort by the establishment media to bring Dr. Paul down in the polls just before the caucus.
 
You should see on CNN just a moment ago on the show: Reliable Sources

They are again in overdrive with hit pieces on Ron Paul, just regurgitating everything they have done the past week or so. There is this one guy from NY Times that just made this statement: "Well if Ron Paul gets First Place in Iowa, I guess we can reflect back on that and say, we could have done more". (somewhat paraphrased)

We could have done more? What's more? Walk up and shoot him in the head? Would have that been enough to keep him out of First Place? This is unreal.

because it is their job to stop people from voting for their first choice candidate?
 
Santorum surge reminds me of the 08's surge.

The surge is working..
The surge is working...
The surge is working...
The surge is working...

American Enterprise engineered the 08' surge in Iraq propaganda rather than the military so that's why we heard every talking head repeat the surge is working 1000 times.

 
Perhaps this is a pre-explanation for a Santorum surge to be shown in their polls later tonight though.
I SOOO wish I could debunk this... But I can't.
I fear they are just explaining why their upcoming results will also reflect a Santorum surge.
The CNN results were phony, but were sufficiently bought into, thus creating at least some measure of a frothy surge, which PPP is now compelled to reflect.

I hope we're both wrong.
 
I SOOO wish I could debunk this... But I can't.
I fear they are just explaining why their upcoming results will also reflect a Santorum surge.
The CNN results were phony, but were sufficiently bought into, thus creating at least some measure of a frothy surge, which PPP is now compelled to reflect.

I hope we're both wrong.

AT least Ron had some good interviews today, for those who DON'T vote according to polls....
 
AT least Ron had some good interviews today, for those who DON'T vote according to polls....

If people are going to vote according to polls then I don't see why they even vote. They let the polling companies which may or may not be honest pick their candidates for them. Sheer lunacy. I don't know any person that says, because this person is coming up in the polls I am going to vote for him/her.
 
I SOOO wish I could debunk this... But I can't.
I fear they are just explaining why their upcoming results will also reflect a Santorum surge.
The CNN results were phony, but were sufficiently bought into, thus creating at least some measure of a frothy surge, which PPP is now compelled to reflect.

I hope we're both wrong.

Their tweets from yesterday already implied a Santorum "surge", but they also implied Paul and Romney are still ahead:

Iowa still looks very close between Paul and Romney but Santorum's within striking distance and has all the momentum

Given the current trajectory I think there's some chance Santorum could win Iowa without ever leading in a poll

I'm really hoping for numbers similar to DMR tonight, only with Paul still ahead of Romney.
 
Ill say it again. CNN used two different polling methods for Iowa an NH. In Iowa they did just reps, in NH they did reps and indies. I strongly believe that CNN did two polls in Iowa then picked the one they wanted, that one being the one showing Santorum "surging".

Why would they use two different polling methods for two different states that have the same rules about allowing indies and reps vote in the republican primary/caucus.
 
Ill say it again. CNN used two different polling methods for Iowa an NH. In Iowa they did just reps, in NH they did reps and indies. I strongly believe that CNN did two polls in Iowa then picked the one they wanted, that one being the one showing Santorum "surging".

Why would they use two different polling methods for two different states that have the same rules about allowing indies and reps vote in the republican primary/caucus.
Probably because they're not looking closely enough at the rules. In New Hampshire, only I and R can vote in the Republican primaries, and you had to be switched off of D by I think about a month ago. In Iowa, only R can vote, but anyone can switch at the caucus.
 
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