Write-In Vote? Ron Says NO

i concur

so true

newyearsrevolution08 said:
some people STILL don't get it LOL. Even in this forum... come on people....

Obama is Mccain
Mccain is Obama

vote for ANYONE but them.

It will show in the overall percentages how low their numbers are due to people voting for "any" 3rd party candidate instead.

Vote for obama to not let mccain win, are you joking? Does anyone really think mccain has ANY support at all? We all know women swoon over obama and other people are voting for him just to be on the "I was part of a movement for change" for voting for a black guy. He gives everything away to people so of course they will eat it up and ANYONE who is against the war will be voting for obama anyways even though obama is for the same damn war just worded differently/.
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newbitech said:
im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.
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I'd be willing to bet Paul would endorse Baldwin . Yes, I know, I know, you are standing firm until or unless Paul himself says it but I would like you to consider this...

Obama already has plenty of support and barring any massive FUBAR between now and election, I'd bet my house he'll be our next president. If you really think the GOP (or any other party who NEEDS votes) doesn't pay attention to "3rd party" votes please go stick your head back in the sand and pull the lever for Obama. (My apologies if that comes off as harsh, I really just want you to reconsider your decision, yes, I am trying to CONVINCE you to do so).

I think the point others are trying to make is that there is no difference AT ALL between Obama & McCain. By voting for EITHER of them you are sending the message their policies are acceptable.

Frankly, I don't understand the latest debates on the board with some insisting vote Barr or vote Baldwin (voicing support notwithstanding of course, we should feel free to do that much). If we all vote for EITHER Barr or Baldwin, their totals combined will still (possibly) make the "power parties" stand up and take notice. Of course, this could all change between now and then, but based on the way things stand today, a vote for either Barr or Baldwin is anything BUT a "throw-away" vote. The more people who can be convinced to stop voting for the lesser of two evils, the more we might find ourselves having truly CONSTITUTIONAL candidates presented. Isn't this at least part of the point of the entire last year and a half of support for Paul? Why throw THAT away??!

Either way, this election doesn't really matter in the long run. What matters is what happens from this day forward. Are we going to sit back and accept what is given to us or are we really serious about taking back America, one seat at a time? I would like to live to see that America one day, I really would, wouldn't you?
 
Anyone here who plans on voting for Obama does not belong on this board. You do not know the true meaning of liberty or freedom, and you certainly don't know what you stand for. It's shameful and sickening. You can't even begin to justify Obama's name leaving your mouth.....

Treason.
 
newbitech said:
i might go with this guy, need to see if he is on the ballot in FL.

did barr endorse Dr. Paul?
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I'm not sure, I don't think there was anything official, but Barr supported him--not to the extent that Baldwin did as far as I know.
 
newbitech said:
im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.
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Puke. I feel embarrassed for you. You seem to have learned nothing at all from Paul.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for RP to endorse anyone--there's nobody good enough in the Republican party and I think that it's considered bad form to endorse outside the party.
 
newbitech said:
im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.
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Voting third party does the same thing, its a nil vot for obama and mccain, so neither gains, and just in case everyone else is thinking the same, the third party guy might win.
If everyone who didn't like mccain or obama voted for a third party, who knows what would be possible.
 
I don't think Ron Paul would be so stupid to endorse Baldwin and lose his libertarian supporters. I think he is right in just remaining neutral on this one and allowing people to decide on their own. TONES
 
JaylieWoW said:
I'd be willing to bet Paul would endorse Baldwin . Yes, I know, I know, you are standing firm until or unless Paul himself says it but I would like you to consider this...

Obama already has plenty of support and barring any massive FUBAR between now and election, I'd bet my house he'll be our next president. If you really think the GOP (or any other party who NEEDS votes) doesn't pay attention to "3rd party" votes please go stick your head back in the sand and pull the lever for Obama. (My apologies if that comes off as harsh, I really just want you to reconsider your decision, yes, I am trying to CONVINCE you to do so).

I think the point others are trying to make is that there is no difference AT ALL between Obama & McCain. By voting for EITHER of them you are sending the message their policies are acceptable.

Frankly, I don't understand the latest debates on the board with some insisting vote Barr or vote Baldwin (voicing support notwithstanding of course, we should feel free to do that much). If we all vote for EITHER Barr or Baldwin, their totals combined will still (possibly) make the "power parties" stand up and take notice. Of course, this could all change between now and then, but based on the way things stand today, a vote for either Barr or Baldwin is anything BUT a "throw-away" vote. The more people who can be convinced to stop voting for the lesser of two evils, the more we might find ourselves having truly CONSTITUTIONAL candidates presented. Isn't this at least part of the point of the entire last year and a half of support for Paul? Why throw THAT away??!

Either way, this election doesn't really matter in the long run. What matters is what happens from this day forward. Are we going to sit back and accept what is given to us or are we really serious about taking back America, one seat at a time? I would like to live to see that America one day, I really would, wouldn't you?
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I get that, I really do. Did you vote in 2006 when the repubs lost the majority in the house and the senate? I live in a state dominated by repubs. Neither one of these two candidates are active here. I was planning to write Dr. Paul in, but he says that would be unproductive. I figure the more dems I vote for on my ballot, the bigger the message will be. I am looking for alternatives, but have none. I could just go back to sleep and vote McCain like most other ex-paul voters I know. They are more worried about raising taxes that Obama promises than going to war. But I know our foreign policy is what is killing us. Temporary tax relief cannot offset it.

I have no choice unless I choose to do nothing.
 
rockandrollsouls said:
Anyone here who plans on voting for Obama does not belong on this board. You do not know the true meaning of liberty or freedom, and you certainly don't know what you stand for. It's shameful and sickening. You can't even begin to justify Obama's name leaving your mouth.....

Treason.
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screw you man, there are only D's and R's on my ballot. I didnt "plan" on voting for anyone until I heard Dr. Paul speak. Now that I understand more politics, I can see how voting for Obama where I live might help our cause. I was going to write in Dr. Paul until I read this thread. I still might cause its all a throw away anyhow. Nothing is changing short of violent revolution for the next couple years anyways. Don't be a punk.
 
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fletcher said:
Puke. I feel embarrassed for you. You seem to have learned nothing at all from Paul.
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you should be embarrassed for yourself. The only thing I have on my ballot are D's and R's. Dr. Paul said write ins are unproductive. You seem to like to talk garbage without thinking. Why don't you suggest something that makes sense in my case? Can ya handle that?
 
torchbearer said:
Voting third party does the same thing, its a nil vot for obama and mccain, so neither gains, and just in case everyone else is thinking the same, the third party guy might win.
If everyone who didn't like mccain or obama voted for a third party, who knows what would be possible.
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what if there is no 3rd party on the ballot?
 
MsDoodahs said:
I don't care. I'm writing in Ron Paul, that will be the ONLY contest I vote in, and this will be the last time I EVER vote.

Only registered so I would have this one opportunity to vote for the man, and that's what I mean to do.

:)
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You know, I have disagreed with you about some stuff in the past, but I think this is excellent advise. Dr. Paul didn't really say DON'T write him in. Hell, my votes probably wasted either way. I think I'll just make a scene at the voting booth by putting a big red sharpie "RON PAUL" across the entire ballot then. Let them do whatever they want with it.
 
newbitech said:
im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.
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That is funny, I didn't see a single word about WHY you will vote FOR Obama. If you are voting against McCain and will not vote third party, just don't vote at all.
 
OptionsTrader said:
That is funny, I didn't see a single word about WHY you will vote FOR Obama. If you are voting against McCain and will not vote third party, just don't vote at all.
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then you didnt read what I wrote. or maybe just read the first post. He is the lesser of two evils, plain and simple.
 
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