Write-In Vote? Ron Says NO

[rprprs]

I work for the PA state government (blah), so I was hoping they'd actually get back to me, but I'll probably just call them tomorrow and clear everything up with them...

LOL...pretty funny. So did I (Labor and Industry). I'm not there anymore though.

 

[mdmarino]

so when the LP brass saw Ron Paul, they wanted him on their ballot, but decided that his ideas were not good enough to switch parties or endorse?

I know lots of people who never heard of Ron Paul but changed party affiliation to vote republican. Why didn't the LP help us out? I just don't think I can get behind that...

Not sure what you mean by that, but (and please someone correct me if I'm wrong) one of the major Libertarian candidates, Mary Ruwart, was a strong supporter of Ron Paul's and campaigned for him, I do believe. I watched the entire Libertarian convention and heard his name mentioned several times. Some of their delegates even wrote in Dr. Paul on the first ballot.

I can't swear to it, but I'd be willing to bet that many Libertarians voted for Dr. Paul in the primaries. I think that one of the Libertarian delegates from WV was a regular poster on these boards and worked very hard for Dr. Paul in the primaries. So, I really don't understand what you mean when you imply that the Libertarian party didn't support Dr. Paul. ???

 

[EastWindRain]

Vote for Dr. Chuck Baldwin.



This election is no different from all the recent others. You have your choice of:

A. Criminal A. or
B. Criminal B.

Most people think "well I don't want to throw my vote away, voting for a third party, so I have to vote for the lesser of two evils". Don't you understand that is exactly what THE ZIONISTS want you to think. They want you thinking that you can't change the system. They offer you two peas in a pod. Two CFR stooges who do what their Zionist masters tell them to do. Vote THIRD Party. Vote for Dr. Chuck Baldwin, whose platform is the same as Ron Paul's. I hope Ron Paul comes out and endorses Chuck Baldwin, but I fear he won't, because Ron Paul is trying to rebuild the Republican Party. And it wouldn't look good if Ron Paul endorses a Candidate who was in another party. (But secretly Ron Paul endorses Dr. Chuck Baldwin.)

 

[newbitech]

Not sure what you mean by that, but (and please someone correct me if I'm wrong) one of the major Libertarian candidates, Mary Ruwart, was a strong supporter of Ron Paul's and campaigned for him, I do believe. I watched the entire Libertarian convention and heard his name mentioned several times. Some of their delegates even wrote in Dr. Paul on the first ballot.

I can't swear to it, but I'd be willing to bet that many Libertarians voted for Dr. Paul in the primaries. I think that one of the Libertarian delegates from WV was a regular poster on these boards and worked very hard for Dr. Paul in the primaries. So, I really don't understand what you mean when you imply that the Libertarian party didn't support Dr. Paul. ???

well like you said, they wrote in Dr. Paul on the ballot which mean he wasn't trying to get their nomination. We needed those people to register repub to vote for Dr. Paul there. I thought that Dr. Paul is trying to get back to Republican roots, not start a new party or get votes for Libertarians. I guess I am a little confused. It seems like the support came from all over the place across to political spectrum. Why should people who were going to vote for Dr. Paul just switch to a different party (again) and vote for a candidate whose party competed for Dr. Pauls votes?


Personally, I'd rather start a new party or join something like the Constitution Party then try to change the Repubs or Dems. But even then, I am not really in to party politics. Ron Paul cured me of that =D. I want to vote based on principles but in this situation, the choice is not obvious.

 

[RevolutionSD]

im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.

Obama wants to attack Iran and likely will only pull out a few troops from Iraq in his first term. Sorry, please research Obama before you go doing something as horrendous as that.

Obamacain are equally as destructful for America.

 

[newbitech]

Vote for Dr. Chuck Baldwin.



This election is no different from all the recent others. You have your choice of:

A. Criminal A. or
B. Criminal B.

Most people think "well I don't want to throw my vote away, voting for a third party, so I have to vote for the lesser of two evils". Don't you understand that is exactly what THE ZIONISTS want you to think. They want you thinking that you can't change the system. They offer you two peas in a pod. Two CFR stooges who do what their Zionist masters tell them to do. Vote THIRD Party. Vote for Dr. Chuck Baldwin, whose platform is the same as Ron Paul's. I hope Ron Paul comes out and endorses Chuck Baldwin, but I fear he won't, because Ron Paul is trying to rebuild the Republican Party. And it wouldn't look good if Ron Paul endorses a Candidate who was in another party. (But secretly Ron Paul endorses Dr. Chuck Baldwin.)

can you tell me if I will have this choice in FL,or at least point me in the right direction? And if Dr. Paul wants to change the Repub party, then shouldn't we be doing the same thing? It would be nice if Dr. Paul endorsed someone, but it sounds like he wants us to make up our own minds while discouraging us from throwing away our vote with a write in.

I have to admit, I am totally confused on how to proceed.

 

[chowdy]

I'm voting LP.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

can you tell me if I will have this choice in FL,or at least point me in the right direction? And if Dr. Paul wants to change the Repub party, then shouldn't we be doing the same thing? It would be nice if Dr. Paul endorsed someone, but it sounds like he wants us to make up our own minds while discouraging us from throwing away our vote with a write in.

I have to admit, I am totally confused on how to proceed.

Why don't you do some research yourself? It'd be nice if, being from the state, you discovered for yourself who is currently on the ballot and what you can do to get a good candidate on the ballot instead of being lazy and expecting everything to be handed to you. You seem young and impressionable, which is probably why you can't distinguish a criminal from a saint.

 

[newbitech]

Obama wants to attack Iran and likely will only pull out a few troops from Iraq in his first term. Sorry, please research Obama before you go doing something as horrendous as that.

Obamacain are equally as destructful for America.

I know what Obama stands for and I am totally against it. I also know that in order for us to succeed in this movement, we have to get a critical mass. We don't have that. We won't have that in this election. I do know that where I live, we will vote for Jeb Bush if he was on the ticket. The only candidate that will give the perception of beating that is Obama.

What Obama offers me is a chance to tell the people where I live that I am putting down the establishment. Since the critical mass does not perceive Obama as being an establishment candidate, I will be voting with them rather than against them.

By throwing my vote to a 3rd party, I am telling the critical mass that I am not concerned with putting down the establish. It will be perceived that I am pushing an agenda that is not supported by the vast majority of Americans. Maybe my logic is flawed, but I have not heard a better alternative that will accomplish something in this election. And if I am going to stick to principle, its going to be write in against Dr. Paul's better judgment. Its a no win situation any way I slice it.

 

[newbitech]

Why don't you do some research yourself? It'd be nice if, being from the state, you discovered for yourself who is currently on the ballot and what you can do to get a good candidate on the ballot instead of being lazy and expecting everything to be handed to you. You seem young and impressionable, which is probably why you can't distinguish a criminal from a saint.

I already addressed your punk attitude. I looked up the information on FL's state election web site. Didn't you read my previous post? Apparently not. I am doing research or are you suggesting this site is useless for that? How is asking for more information on the information super highway lazy?

Young and impressionable? Yeah if you are 65 and a nazi. Who are you accusing of being a criminal? Do you have something to back that up? And who are you bowing down to as your saint? I know its not Dr. Paul cause he's not going to be on the ballot either.

What a punk.

 

[newbitech]

This kid's a crock. Sweet grammar. Screw me? How about screw you, buddy. I'm not the one who will be voting for a socialist, big government, two faced SOB. The fact of the matter is you don't have a spine or you would be voting for a candidate that stands for liberty. You and your new candidate are just as anti-liberty as McCain is. Again, you don't know the meaning of liberty or freedom. You are foolish and your words are empty rhetoric. You were a fair weather Paul supporter and it's clear you never knew what he stood for.

WWPD. What would Paul do? He would never endorse Obama...that's a fact.

oh just saw this little gem. WWPD, thats a great question, apparently he isn't endorsing anyone. Maybe he will not vote. Maybe he will write in your name. Who knows. One thing I do know is that you have no idea what you are talking about when you try to characterize me. How about taking some of Dr. Pauls advise and let me make up my own mind.

 

[tpreitzel]

I'm voting Constitution Party. I'll take a man of integrity like Chuck Baldwin any day. In Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World In Our Time, Quigley lays out the fact that both major parties are controlled by the same financial and political forces. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't. So, I'm doing what the majority of fence sitters should do, I'm voting my conscience based on constitutional principle. Until my peers do likewise, we'll continue the slide into fascism (national socialism).

 

[Akus]

im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.

you've really learned nothing over these seventeen years, have you? :o A Ron Paul message board is the last place I'd expect to hear something like this.

 

[Matt Collins]

im voting for obama then.

If you are voting for Obama or McCain, then you never really truly understood Ron Paul's platform...sorry....

 

[SnappleLlama]

LOL...pretty funny. So did I (Labor and Industry). I'm not there anymore though.

ha, ha...get this: I work for Public Welfare. Trust me, it's painful, but it pays the bills (and student loans).

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Vote for no one including them. The right of the slaves to help choose the overseer really ain't worth much.

Well said, cheers to that!

 

[newbitech]

you've really learned nothing over these seventeen years, have you? :o A Ron Paul message board is the last place I'd expect to hear something like this.

17 months? Look I am really trying to make sure my vote counts. Most people I know of have already switched parties to vote for Ron Paul or die. I want to stand by that and so do the people I have influence over. Now Ron Paul says writing in his name is a waste of time and he isn't endorsing anyone.

So the only thing that I can really defeat the establishment in THIS election is make sure the republicans are defeated. Maybe Obama is a forgone conclusion to win. I know in my precinct he is not going to win unless Obama surges here.

The way I see, the only choices I have are Principles in Foundation, Socialism, or Dictatorship. Principle has dropped out or splintered into several ideologically bent campaigns, Dictatorship offers Death, and Socialism offer Taxes.

I want to choose principle but then I'd be cutting off my nose to spite my face. I'm not ready to die. Taxes can only be stolen if I work for someone else or buy crap I don't need. So taxes. And I will make sure that I am not responsible for Death.

What I have learned is to vote my conscience and right now that is telling me to write in Dr. Paul's name. BUT, logic and Dr. Paul's words are forcing me to reconsider.

 

[jmag]

If you vote for a lesser of two evils you have to actually live with it - yuck..

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.

What kind of person needs endorsements to make a decision on voting? I don't know any so I'm going with a bot on this one. it seems like a lot of the activity on these forums are from bots.

 

[newbitech]

If you are voting for Obama or McCain, then you never really truly understood Ron Paul's platform...sorry....

Thats a big ole jump in conclusions. My vote is wasted because the alternatives are split. Face it, we are stuck with the same ole same ole. What difference does it make really?

This whole thing has turned in to a huge waste of my time. Politics is not going to solve our problems. It didn't solve the problems in 1776 (ask ben franklin) and it won't solve them now.