Write-In Vote? Ron Says NO

[Lisa S]

Baldwin would the perfect candidate to wake up the Christians that McCain's wars are not Christian at all. He speaks very elequently on this subject. Most don't like McCain and O'bama evenless so maybe a Pastor that explains it's okay to be anti-war and still Christian. Most Christians have been brainwashed by the republican party. Maybe, he can wake some up. I know as much as I love Ron Paul I will vote for Baldwin if he is on the ballot.

 

[acptulsa]

Baldwin would the perfect candidate to wake up the Christians that McCain's wars are not Christian at all. He speaks very elequently on this subject. Most don't like McCain and O'bama evenless so maybe a Pastor that explains it's okay to be anti-war and still Christian. Most Christians have been brainwashed by the republican party. Maybe, he can wake some up. I know as much as I love Ron Paul I will vote for Baldwin if he is on the ballot.

This is the way we need to think if we're to be effective. We need to take a page from the neocons and say, never mind if it's my idea of perfect. Will it work?! Just as long as we stick by our core ideals as well as the neocons do and our core ideal is something more noble than gathering 95% of the wealth in the hands of some 2% of the population, we should do fine.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

This is the way we need to think if we're to be effective. We need to take a page from the neocons and say, never mind if it's my idea of perfect. Will it work?! Just as long as we stick by our core ideals as well as the neocons do and our core ideal is something more noble than gathering 95% of the wealth in the hands of some 2% of the population, we should do fine.

I take it you didn't read the article I posted that he wrote. He had no problem bashing "gay rights," and making it seem like homosexuals weren't capable of doing anything and they weren't entitled to. He basically dehumanized them in the article, and I think that's horrific.

 

[acptulsa]

I take it you didn't read the article I posted that he wrote. He had no problem bashing "gay rights," and making it seem like homosexuals weren't capable of doing anything and they weren't entitled to. He basically dehumanized them in the article, and I think that's horrific.

Guilty.

Yeah. I'm not going to hold my nose and vote for McCain. I didn't want to have to hold my nose to vote for anyone...

Regardless if it looks like we can win, there are many reasons it would make so much more sense to support the ultimate, most nearly perfect candidate. But then he went and suspended his campaign...

Dr. Paul, I sure hope you're right and the damned G.O.P. is worth all this!

Even so, if we can vote as a bloc we will do much, much more to attract people to the cause than if we're split and scattered. In that case, we wouldn't look effective enough to be worth joining.

Maybe it's hopeless to want the cats to stick to the herd. But, as helpless as a cow is, a stampede is one tremendous force, and as dumb as a jackal is, no lioness can stand against a pack. A pride of lions, on the other hand, being both strong as great cats and strong because of numbers, is one of the more powerful things nature has ever seen.

A herd of cats. I guess this movement has always been half "if we accomplished this how powerful would that be" and half "yeah, but how do you pull that off?!" All I know is it was partly our numbers and partly our individual qualities that got us this far. Both are impressive enough! Now, do we maintain this force or dissipate it?

 

[UtahApocalypse]

I do not expect my vote to count for anything other than a statement.
For that I could write in Micky Mouse.
The LP has no chance of winning.
The CP has no chance of winning.
I do not think McCain has any chance, but I will not vote for him.
I believe that Obama has already got the election sealed, and I will not vote for him.

I will write in my choice, not because it will do any good, but because it is my choice.

Agreed. Everyone saying to vote LP or CP or whatever else are the ones that dont understand the point. Im not Voting a 2nd or 3rd choice, im not going to vote party over principle. I refuse to vote lesser of ALL the evils not just two.

This year for the first time in my life I will cast a presidential ballot I can be proud of. I can tell me children i did not back down. I voted MY conscience. I was not swayed by trickery, legal hassles, or sticking to the crowd. i at least will always no that my vote, counted or not.... was MY vote.

Write-In Ron Paul 08'

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Guilty.

Yeah. I'm not going to hold my nose and vote for McCain. I didn't want to have to hold my nose to vote for anyone...

Regardless if it looks like we can win, there are many reasons it would make so much more sense to support the ultimate, most nearly perfect candidate. But then he went and suspended his campaign...

Dr. Paul, I sure hope you're right and the damned G.O.P. is worth all this!

Even so, if we can vote as a bloc we will do much, much more to attract people to the cause than if we're split and scattered. In that case, we wouldn't look effective enough to be worth joining.

Maybe it's hopeless to want the cats to stick to the herd. But, as helpless as a cow is, a stampede is one tremendous force, and as dumb as a jackal is, no lioness can stand against a pack. A pride of lions, on the other hand, being both strong as great cats and strong because of numbers, is one of the more powerful things nature has ever seen.

A herd of cats. I guess this movement has always been half "if we accomplished this how powerful would that be" and half "yeah, but how do you pull that off?!" All I know is it was partly our numbers and partly our individual qualities that got us this far. Both are impressive enough! Now, do we maintain this force or dissipate it?

Agreed. Again, I think you're just splitting hairs between Baldwin and Barr. For this reason, I think it'd be smarter to vote Barr as we could really make ourselves heard, but to each his own (I think he's reformed, others think it's a conspiracy ). I just can't believe people here would even consider Obama.

 

[Mister Grieves]

Write-In Ron Paul 08'

+1

 

[TastyWheat]

If Ron doesn't endorse someone (symbolically throwing in the towel) then he's got my vote.

 

[anaconda]

I think RP should endorse Baldwin or Barr so that the powers that be know very clearly where their potential votes went while they continue with these country-destroying platforms of insane corruption.

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

This year for the first time in my life I will cast a presidential ballot I can be proud of. I can tell me children i did not back down. I voted MY conscience. I was not swayed by trickery, legal hassles, or sticking to the crowd. i at least will always no that my vote, counted or not.... was MY vote.

Write-In Ron Paul 08'

*sigh*

You can't. It would be like saying "I hate burning fossil fuels so I'm gonna drive my nuclear powered flying car". You don't have a nuclear powered flying car and you don't have Ron Paul as an officially registered write-in candidate.

Writing in a name that isn't an officially registered write-in candidate is truly a wasted vote. Scribbling his name on a ballot or on a computer screen with a sharpie will do nothing more than make you feel smug and satisfied. Nobody else will even notice. It won't get included in the vote totals. Voting for someone on the ballot will. So vote for anyone other than the R or D and make sure your displeasure is known that way.

Give up on this idea of writing him in. Write-in candidacy = Independent run. RP says he isn't running as an independent. End of story.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

*sigh*

You can't. It would be like saying "I hate burning fossil fuels so I'm gonna drive my nuclear powered flying car". You don't have a nuclear powered flying car and you don't have Ron Paul as an officially registered write-in candidate.

Writing in a name that isn't an officially registered write-in candidate is truly a wasted vote. Scribbling his name on a ballot or on a computer screen with a sharpie will do nothing more than make you feel smug and satisfied. Nobody else will even notice. It won't get included in the vote totals. Voting for someone on the ballot will. So vote for anyone other than the R or D and make sure your displeasure is known that way.

Give up on this idea of writing him in. Write-in candidacy = Independent run. RP says he isn't running as an independent. End of story.

Right. Ron has even said he hopes Barr and Baldwin get plenty of votes.

 

[werdd]

im voting for obama then. sorry but I won't make the mistake of letting McCain control the world. I hate to let Obama get it, but i'll have to go with the lesser of evils on this one if I am going to throw away my vote.

3rd parties and independents ehh... I don't see the point in that either unless Dr. Paul endorses.

Your getting trapped

Listen to ron pauls recent video on the cover of this page

"Although the power struggle is very real, behind the scenes the two parties are owned by the same people, and those people have their ends covered either way."

 

[CzargwaR]

I'm most likely voting Baldwin.. but not dismissing Barr yet..

100% not voting Obama or McCain

 

[Shotdown1027]

Im voting for Baldwin. He'sone of us, a soldier in the Revolution.

 

[ProBlue33]

I think Ron Paul is sending people a coded message, make your vote count, don't waste it or throw it away on principle.

In states where it's going to go Red by a large margin, by all means, vote for anybody but McCain because, it won't matter, as we saw in the primaries.

BUT if you are in a state that is really close with a ton of electorial votes like Florida circa
2000, YOU MUST do your American duty and deny McCain by voting for Obama.

I don't giving flying flip if the Bilderberg or CFR backs Obama, the world community will deal better with Obama, and thats worth alot. And if America votes another GOP war monger in, the world community is going think Americans really are the stupidest racist people in the world.

DENY McCAIN 08!

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I think Ron Paul is sending people a coded message, make your vote count, don't waste it or throw it away on principle.

In states where it's going to go Red by a large margin, by all means, vote for anybody but McCain because, it won't matter, as we saw in the primaries.

BUT if you are in a state that is really close with a ton of electorial votes like Florida circa
2000, YOU MUST do your American duty and deny McCain by voting for Obama.

I don't giving flying flip if the Bilderberg or CFR backs Obama, the world community will deal better with Obama, and thats worth alot. And if America votes another GOP war monger in, the world community is going think Americans really are the stupidest racist people in the world.

DENY McCAIN 08!

Forgive my French, but Ron didn't say anything like that, moron . Don't try and manipulate people here. Ron said himself, and I will get you the youtube if you like, that he hopes Barr and Baldwin get many votes. He and Obama have nothing in common and he never said, nor would he ever say to vote for him for any reason at all.

He doesn't want write ins, but he wants us to vote for the candidates closest to liberty; either Baldwin or Barr, and I have the footage and quotes to prove it.

So get lost and anyone else who plans on voting for Obama can get lost too. It's inexcusable.

How about... Deny your idiot logic '08! Vote for a real freedom candidate '08!

 

[sophocles07]

I don't giving flying flip if the Bilderberg or CFR backs Obama, the world community will deal better with Obama, and thats worth alot. And if America votes another GOP war monger in, the world community is going think Americans really are the stupidest racist people in the world.

So vote Obama because he's black?

I'd just as soon let the American voters put in McCain and end this drawn out misery show of a country. If we're that pathetic...maybe we deserve hatred.

Not to mention the hatred that comes from our voting in time after time after time the SAME FUCKING imperialist war machine with different masked entities controlling it.

Obama would serve as an illusion for the world, and for the citizens of the country. A light face on the dark reality of what is happening--which is not based in one man and his empty repetition of "change" (which means fucking nothing).

 

[EastWindRain]

I would say that if Ron Paul had to pick out of Barr and Baldwin, he would choose Baldwin because Baldwin's platform is very similar to Paul's.

So if that is the case, we The Ron Paul and Patriot movement should now be working overtime for Chuck Baldwin. If we worked really hard over the next 4.5 months perhaps the third party could get 10-15 % of the vote? That would make a huge statement.

Here is the link to the new Chuck Baldwin Forum.

http://www.chuckbaldwinforum.com/



Ron Paul on the CNN Situation Room: June 16, 2008
R.P. briefly talks about Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr. Duration 6 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqpI-8pDuEY

In my opinion it appears based on the comments below, (3:50 mark) that Ron Paul favors Chuck Baldwin over Bob Barr.



"What do you think about Congressman Barr?", asked Wolf Blitzer.

"Well I think he is running a very important race, and I am encouraging him. I haven't endorsed him. Ah, but he is saying the kind of things that ah I like to be heard and said, and ah I hope he does real well.

But ah, we also have Chuck Baldwin who runs on the Constitutional Party. His views are very very close to mine. He worked very hard in my campaign. So for me to pick one over the other is not very easy. I hope they both, together, get a lot of votes", answered Ron Paul.

 

[ProBlue33]

Forgive my French, but Ron didn't say anything like that, moron . Don't try and manipulate people here. Ron said himself, and I will get you the youtube if you like, that he hopes Barr and Baldwin get many votes. He and Obama have nothing in common and he never said, nor would he ever say to vote for him for any reason at all.

He doesn't want write ins, but he wants us to vote for the candidates closest to liberty; either Baldwin or Barr, and I have the footage and quotes to prove it.

So get lost and anyone else who plans on voting for Obama can get lost too. It's inexcusable.

How about... Deny your idiot logic '08! Vote for a real freedom candidate '08!

This is where a divergence in idealogy comes into play for the American voter that supported Ron Paul. And I keep arguing this in multiple threads, I wish Ron Paul was on the ballot to vote for in 2008 but he won't be. And unlike the primaries where no vote is wasted. The general election is different, because in close states your vote can get wasted on parties that have no chance, as admirable is that is, you don't cause change.

So those that are in states that are in play you have to make a very tough choice.

1)Take the high road, and vote your conscience, but realize you could negate your shot to influence change.
2)Decide to power the change with your vote.

It's that simple

 

[rockandrollsouls]

This is where a divergence in idealogy comes into play for the American voter that supported Ron Paul. And I keep arguing this in multiple threads, I wish Ron Paul was on the ballot to vote for in 2008 but he won't be. And unlike the primaries where no vote is wasted. The general election is different, because in close states your vote can get wasted on parties that have no chance, as admirable is that is, you don't cause change.

So those that are in states that are in play you have to make a very tough choice.

1)Take the high road, and vote your conscience, but realize you could negate your shot to influence change.
2)Decide to power the change with your vote.

It's that simple

People like you are idiots. If you're voting for Obama you were never a freedom fighter in the first place. You can't twist it to make Obama seem favorable because he stands for nothing we've been fighting for. Your vote is wasted if you vote for a communist and your vote is wasted if you vote for a facist.

People, let me restate this. OBAMA HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH OUR MOVEMENT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO VOTE FOR HIM. It's not denying McCain.....the founding fathers never meant for a vote to be a strategic blocking vote. If you, or anyone else here votes for Obama I say we should all voteban you from the forums, and you can all go circle jerk in the Obama forums. What do you say, guys? Get rid of the baggage we don't need, eh?

Ron has said himself vote for a freedom candidate, yet you still want to vote for a borderline communist. He's never once said it's "strategically smart" to vote for Obama. So, I don't care if the mods tag me for this but FUCK OFF. You and all the Obama lovers need to fuck off and go circle jerk in the Obama forums because you are wrong here. This is a campaign for liberty, not a campaign against the other guy. We don't need you and we don't want you. We've been working our asses off to restore our Constitution, and I'm willing to bet 50 bucks you didn't do jack and just sat on your ass in front of the computer. If you fought you wouldn't be saying "go vote for Obama." Get lost, traitor.

And by the way, Ron said he couldn't endorse one over the other in the case of Baldwin and Barr. To me, it sounded like he liked Barr but couldn't choose because Chuck was so involved in the campaign and it would almost be traitorous.