Would you vote for a Romney/Paul ticket?

[cajuncocoa]

Almost anybody would accept VP if asked.

Almost anybody does not necessarily include Ron Paul... and if it does, he's not the man of integrity that I thought he was.

 

[sailingaway]

Almost anybody does not necessarily include Ron Paul... and if it does, he's not the man of integrity that I thought he was.

I disagree. If he accepts without cutting a deal to not say what he thinks, I think he'd be promoting liberty and keeping Rubio or someone similar out. He said when he was asked about being McCain's VP, "If he invaded Iran, I would have to resign.'

So, if Romney invades Iran and the VP resigns it would at least signal the world that we aren't ALL insane over here, and Ron can do more to restrain MR with the anticipation of what he would say to the media than he could do outside the office.

I really think this is in fantasy territoriy, but if WE nominated Ron from the floor, Ron would accept just to get his 15 minute speech (or second 15 minute speech if he'd already been nominated for President). And if he won the vote, I'd sure vote for him.

 

[michael k]

If the alternative is RP retiring to TX never to be seen/heard from again . . .

I say YES !

 

[Carlybee]

If the alternative is RP retiring to TX never to be seen/heard from again . . .

I say YES !

edit...read it wrong

 

[sailingaway]

If the alternative is RP retiring to TX never to be seen/heard from again . . .

I say YES !

Welcome to the forums!

 

[ZENemy]

19 mins of flip flopping! SUUUUUURE I would love to see Ron Paul standing next to this guy! Barf

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Some people in this thread seem to have answered the poll with the bizarre assumption that 'if Romney picks Ron Paul as his VP, then Ron must have sold out,' as if that's the only possible explanation.

Why does Ron Paul have to sell out in order to be the VP in this entirely hypothetical scenario? This entire thread is one big 'what if?' question and yet some people here answer it so matter-of-factly. Why can't Romney pick Ron because he wants to win? Why can't Romney make some serious policy changes that would impress Ron?

We all know Romney will never pick Ron anyway, thus we all know the thread poll is moot anyway.

Why do people here assume Romney has to pick Ron, when the most likely senario to get Ron in the VP slot is to nominate him as VP via vote in Tampa?

-t

 

[Kade]

This is like asking if you would have someone smear fecal matter on your face if it were done by Bar Rafaeli.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I would vote for it. Do you think the media would turn down coverage of a speech by the VP against the Pres. Ron would have 4 years to criticise Romney, and further spread the message of Liberty. Besides, even if Romney doesn't allow Ron to do anything, there is one Constitutional position that Romney can't take away... President of the Senate. Ron could be on Capitol Hill every day battling Harry Reid.

AWESOME GOOD POINT!

-t

 

[sailingaway]

19 mins of flip flopping! SUUUUUURE I would love to see Ron Paul standing next to this guy! Barf

The point is, Ron existing near him draws a complete contrast, and keeps in people's minds how fake the 'political show' is. That is good for us, imho. But it isnt going to happen, because Romney doesn't want a conscience visible to all, offering a counterpoint to what he says and does.

And to the extend ROMNEY may be willing to pick Ron, in order to win, Romney's MONEY won't want it.

 

[EBounding]

I voted yes, but Romney would rather lose than be humiliated by having Ron Paul undermine his agenda.

 

[parocks]

That is true but the worse attacks came from the gay/lesbian community and sympathizers and from Obama's unscrupulous campaign operatives. Few people understand how and why Sarah Palin is a very strong person capable of making the most difficult decisions and being able to live with insurmountably obstacles that impede her progress but overcoming all of them anyway and achieving success when the odds against that are daunting. Dr. Paul being a man cannot ever be able to match Sarah Palin woman instincts, but if he had just half of Palin's will power he would be now beating Romney and Obama together by 10 points.

A Sarah Palin / Ron Paul presidency would shake this country and put it back in the shape it deserves to be.

Sarah Palin does not have a will power advantage over Ron Paul. Palin is hot. Palin also has the ability to talk for a pretty long time without making it clear where she stands on an issue, which allows her to keep support from people on both sides of an issue. If Sarah Palin was 76 years old, we would not be talking about Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin will not be as hot as she is now, when she's 76 years old. Sarah Palin does not take positions that most Republicans do not like (see: Foreign Policy). Sarah Palin is extremely likeable and charismatic. She also hasn't been a close friend of Netanyahu for 36 years, as Romney has. She doesn't have close ties to global elites.

But, will power? The quitting didn't help with that. Most people would not say that Palin has a ton of will power. Ron Paul has been fighting for what is right for 36 years, leading the delegation for Reagan in 1976, not caring what other people say. Ron Paul has the will power advantage over Palin. Likeability, charisma, fame, popularity, hotness, not elite, those are the Palin strengths.

 

[parocks]

Almost anybody does not necessarily include Ron Paul... and if it does, he's not the man of integrity that I thought he was.

If Ron Paul is Romney's VP, he'll have more influence on the Romney Presidency than he would have if he was sitting home in Texas.

Ron Paul would do a better job as VP than anyone else, and if asked, he should accept and probably would.

There will be a VP, you know this, right? I would think that we would want the best one possible.

 

[parocks]

Palin won't get the Pres nomination so it won't arise. She might get VP if someone wants to appeal to a certain group, but I don't see Romney picking her.

Well, a lot of our theorizing involves black swan events. Most of the black swan events involve Romney getting eaten by sharks, or something that means Romney won't be there at the end of August. If Romney isn't there, it means that Romney won't be the nominee, and it will be someone else. In that scenario, all bets are off, and Palin could get the 1144 in that case.

 

[cajuncocoa]

If Ron Paul is Romney's VP, he'll have more influence on the Romney Presidency than he would have if he was sitting home in Texas.

Ron Paul would do a better job as VP than anyone else, and if asked, he should accept and probably would.

There will be a VP, you know this, right? I would think that we would want the best one possible.

The best one possible won't be on Romney's ticket. Take that to the bank.

 

[kahless]

If Ron Paul is Romney's VP, he'll have more influence on the Romney Presidency than he would have if he was sitting home in Texas.

Exactly.

Well, a lot of our theorizing involves black swan events. Most of the black swan events involve Romney getting eaten by sharks, or something that means Romney won't be there at the end of August. If Romney isn't there, it means that Romney won't be the nominee, and it will be someone else. In that scenario, all bets are off, and Palin could get the 1144 in that case.

I hope in that event it would be Ron but there would allot we would have to contend with. Besides the media, Santorum would probably be the biggest threat.

I do not think Palin could pull it off but would be a player. Like Rubio she would likely end supporting one of the main players and as someones VP pick. The main players would be Santorum, Jeb Bush and Christie. Unfortunately the media would be in tears in celebration as they push Jeb Bush as the savior of the GOP.

 

[romancito]

Sarah Palin does not have a will power advantage over Ron Paul. Palin is hot. Palin also has the ability to talk for a pretty long time without making it clear where she stands on an issue, which allows her to keep support from people on both sides of an issue. If Sarah Palin was 76 years old, we would not be talking about Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin will not be as hot as she is now, when she's 76 years old. Sarah Palin does not take positions that most Republicans do not like (see: Foreign Policy). Sarah Palin is extremely likeable and charismatic. She also hasn't been a close friend of Netanyahu for 36 years, as Romney has. She doesn't have close ties to global elites.

But, will power? The quitting didn't help with that. Most people would not say that Palin has a ton of will power. Ron Paul has been fighting for what is right for 36 years, leading the delegation for Reagan in 1976, not caring what other people say. Ron Paul has the will power advantage over Palin. Likeability, charisma, fame, popularity, hotness, not elite, those are the Palin strengths.

I believe that Ron Paul has will power of the right kind - the kind that endures and ends up producing learned outcomes. He exercises constantly and is an avid reader. But he is male and his great achievements are tied to the opportunities his job provide to do those things and still punch in the time for a check. In other words, Ron Paul does not have to sacrifice anything to exercise, to read, to maintain his job, to maintain his patriarch status, his respect. He is respected because he is male and has horns. He paces himself around the square to show off his strengths. Okay. But now compare that to Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin's will power come from an opposite source as that of Ron Paul. She is female. Her will power comes from working like an ass under subsumed circumstances. Infusing integrity into a male corrupted institutional institution, working as a Governor of a state that is a hornet of male chauvinistic club of bullies, pumping breast milk every day as a Governor to feed a child with disabilities where such a child does not sucks the milk avidly like a normal child but has to be motivated and coaxed to feed, and then take care of another set of children at home who are bent on a little bit of rebellion now and then. And then will to stay positive in an environment where she is being monitored and spied on 24/7 and can't even ask her husband for advise. And that is only a few of the difficult conditions under which Sarah Palin exercised her will power. If she walks the square to show her wares you say she's hot, everyone diminishes her even on the color of her lipstick, in top of that you already have undermined her at her old age because she will not look as beautiful as a 20 year old. In other words, her matriarchal status is what makes her a lesser of a respectful entity. She doesn't have horns. Everything in her life is a sacrifice. Nothing works out to give her the integration of job, leisure, pleasure and respect simultaneously like with Ron Paul. And you don't even think of Ron Paul as hot when he was 45. He was smart at that age. Sure Ron Paul could quit his gynecological practice anytime he saw fit and that is respected as a smart choice. But Sarah Palin quits a job where she is being stoked by every chauvinistic male in the MSM and the state government an that is a disrespectful thing she did. Will power. Who's got it where valor is the better part of discretion.

 

[sailingaway]

Exactly.



I hope in that event it would be Ron but there would allot we would have to contend with. Besides the media, Santorum would probably be the biggest threat.

I do not think Palin could pull it off but would be a player. Like Rubio she would likely end supporting one of the main players and as someones VP pick. The main players would be Santorum, Jeb Bush and Christie. Unfortunately the media would be in tears in celebration as they push Jeb Bush as the savior of the GOP.

I'm not sure Santorum has 5 states, any more. Possibly he could win people over, but with the sky the limit as to candidate selection, I am not so sure. Voted to double the DEpt of Ed with no child left behind, voted to raise the debt ceiling 5 times, was George Bush's Senate Whip to get that mess through congress.....

I think they'd call for Huck, first.

 

[wgadget]

Ron Paul would be so perfect in the role of VP...EDUCATING Americans about Constitutional liberty. Maybe even Mitt Romney himself, who once called Ron the Constitutional expert. Heck, instead of consulting his lawyers, he could just consult Ron.

 

[parocks]

Exactly.



I hope in that event it would be Ron but there would allot we would have to contend with. Besides the media, Santorum would probably be the biggest threat.

I do not think Palin could pull it off but would be a player. Like Rubio she would likely end supporting one of the main players and as someones VP pick. The main players would be Santorum, Jeb Bush and Christie. Unfortunately the media would be in tears in celebration as they push Jeb Bush as the savior of the GOP.

Well, certainly the msm likes jeb and christie. I'm not sure the delegates would prefer those 2 to Palin. Rubio is unknown. And Palin is the most famous of any of them.