Would you support a: Federalist or Anti-Federalist?

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Probably anti-Federalist because it would take longer for government to get all the way back to the current size(and bigger)

 

[WilliamC]

The only thing so great about the Constitution was that it was better than anything else, but it wasn't perfect by any means.

Anti all the way.

 

[oyarde]

The only thing so great about the Constitution was that it was better than anything else, but it wasn't perfect by any means.

Anti all the way.

But , it is , the most perfect document by man , in an inperfect world , so , lets use it !!

 

[heavenlyboy34]

But , it is , the most perfect document by man , in an inperfect world , so , lets use it !!

LMAO!!!

 

[TheTexan]

Yes, I guessed the right answer! I'm so good at these polls

 

[donnay]

Definitely an Anti-Federalist! I even married one!

 

[oyarde]

LMAO!!!

Straight up , I meant it , I have reviewed everything known to man , It is the best.

 

[Conza88]

No, that does not make sense. I do not agree that you have a monopoly on the banner of true liberty. I am not going to go around criticizing people for supporting the rule of law the constitution. In fact, Articles IV & V make perfect sense to me as well as the "Bill of Rights." I suspect a lot of people would be quick to join the discussion if not for the wrath of anarchists.

It makes perfect sense. You're wasting your time attacking people who want more liberty than you do. How about you grow a pair, stfu, and go focus on the statists yeah?

I'm defending the concept of voluntarism, I'm the one pointing out.. hey guys look, don't get off at this stop.. there is a better place at the next!

I'm not attacking people who want to try get people on the 'freedom train'... which is delusional, given your bs accusation.

Do you agree or disagree that people should be forced to live under a form of government they have not voluntarily consented to?

No? - Then you agree with Lysander Spooner and Ron Paul.
Yes? - Then you're a statist, minarchist, strict constitutionalist... and should we ever get back to the size of government outlined above, you then become the enemy... because you are willing to hold the guns to the head of Ron Paul, myself and others... and try force us to live under a regime we do not accept.

Get a grip. 2nd warning.

 

[Knightskye]

Even Hamilton knew that the power to declare war was vested in the legislature.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Straight up , I meant it , I have reviewed everything known to man , It is the best.

Keep reading...you'll get it right eventually.

 

[Travlyr]

The Anti-Federalists did win. Without implementation of their wisdom the Bill of Rights would not have been included.

United States Constitution - Young Americans For Liberty​

Forward By Ron Paul

"The Constitution is a revolutionary document. It is also a perfect illustration of how freedom brings people together.

The delegates to the Constitutional Convention in 1787 had to draft a charter to limit government and secure liberty for Americans of all kinds -- farmers and industrialists, Christians and deists, from big states and small states. Nothing else but freedom could overcome the divisions and work for everybody.

The Constitution was not perfect. It allowed for slavery. At first, it lacked a Bill of Rights. The Framers argued that the divided and limited powers enumerated in the Constitution were enough to protect our rights. The Anti-Federalists -- opponents of constitutional ratification like Patrick Henry and George Mason -- argued that there ought to be a Bill of Rights and warned that the president and the federal courts would be too powerful.

The Framers were very careful not to give the president or the courts the most dangerous powers that government has, however. They only entrusted the power to declare war and raise taxes to Congress, the branch of government most directly answerable to the people. And after the Constitution was ratified, a Bill of Rights was added that forbids any branch of the federal government to interfere with liberties like our right to free speech, to the free exercise of religion, and to keep and bear arms. These guarantees of freedom brought the Framers and the Anti-Federalists together in support of the Constitution once it was adopted.

Strictly limiting government was a revolutionary idea. What was even more revolutionary was that the Constitution left the most important things in life, like religion and education, free from government control. The Framers knew that no government, no matter how carefully designed, could make people virtuous. That job belongs to families, churches, and communities, not politicians and government schools.

Right from the start, though, politicians were unhappy about the limits the Constitution placed on them. Even Thomas Jefferson, as president, overstepped his constitutional authority by buying the Louisiana territories. Alexander Hamilton succeeded in creating a nation bank, without constitutional authority, to finance government and centralize economic power.

Politicians damaged the Constitution not only by violating its letter but also by ignoring the wisdom that created the Constitution in the first place, creating taxes and tariffs that hurt some parts of the country more than others. Just as freedom brings people together, the opposite of freedom -- tariffs, wars, slavery -- tears a country apart.

Since the Civil War, Washington has done everything that the Framers tried to prevent, from letting the president make wars to interfering in religion and federalizing education. But the people still want freedom. They want a revolution to return to the Constitution.

Young Americans for Liberty (www.yaliberty.org) is leading the way by educating young people about their rights and demanding that politicians obey the Constitution. That is what YAL means by "winning on principle." Our principles are expressed in the Constitution, so read it carefully and commit its lessons to heart."

Ron Paul
Congressman Ron Paul

 

[LibertyEagle]

Right, so then you should maybe stop wasting your/others time by trying to argue against those who are holding the BANNER HIGH OF A TRUE LIBERTY {END GOAL}, which is also incidentally Ron Paul's.

That'd make sense, no? Then go tell your 'pals' newbitech.

Here you go again with your bullshit.

Ron Paul is trying to reinstate the Constitution and believes it should be followed. Someday, in la la land, when people become perfect creatures, perhaps it will be possible to go further. But, right now and for the foreseeable future, the goal is to get our government back within the constraints of the Constitution. Because doing so, will drastically reduce the size and scope of government and give us our liberty back.