WORST President? (Poll 2/3)

[Aratus]

Kade, you have this marvelous ability to focus let alone this almost
anti-federalist ability to question! monroe and marshall were once
school chums. the swearing in then was more folksy than madison's
had been! i had this feeling, sorta. just as i think elder brewster's
wife was a wentworth and had distant next of kin at wentworth
hall back in the north of england, i think there is a tyler ancestor to
jamie monroe. i'm perhaps guessing at the delano connection, yet reasonably
certain on the peabody family marriage. my ancestors being methodist ministers in worcester
and the churchmouse poor side of the family tree. with my luck, president
clinton who actually began life as a blythe until his adoption by his step-father
is also VERY distantly related. i'm totally certain about john adams and JQA
as well as grace kelly! laurie cabot had been salem's official town witch...

 

[Aratus]

i'm near boston, not in the same! you and i actually fluxuate
between being 30 and perhaps 10 miles apart, depending
on how you drive out and away from the same, or is it 30
and 50 miles apart if you go either due north or due south!
i'm on the other side of 128! jim ogonowski ran in my district!
the same district i kept my INDEPENDENT status up for this
embarrassing february! had i voted, i could have gone places
this april 5th! hippie me could not legitimately try to convert
good nice ronald reagan republicans from actor mitt romney awe
or I LIKE IKE mccain certainties! and like any activist, my libertarianism
is more obvious than my republicanism! i think i'm voting for jim ogonowski.

 

[Aratus]

i didn't attend meet-ups! Kade, if you were at local meet-ups!
i'm sorta late to the cause in a hippie way, and then Gravel freaks
me out. just after i got to post here on these forums, he goes
libertarian! the stock market jitters and the "W"and his brash saber-wrattlin'
set me off, let alone this request for a PATRIOT ACT III... i went livid!
i know JOHN KERRY tosses someone else's medals over that there
white~house fence, and yes... he's anti-war and not truely fond of
the PATRIOT ACT II.. but lately his stances don't cut it. things were
looking more dire or more loused up. bollixed up. i even had the idea
BUSH wants to invade four seperate nations almost simultaniously.
if not at least two or three of them. again, alarming. new deal liberalism
got jettisoned as i went more ayn rand. with a bigger more cumbersome
war and a loused over budget bloat, i was upset. we are still a republic!!!

 

[Aratus]

looks above... i KNOW i was rough on poor nice hapless james buchanan! you see...
henry clay, john c. calhoun and dan'l webster had ALREADY passed away. i knew this...

 

[klamath]

Lincoln was the unfortunate Chap that was president when the fatal flaw in the constitution ripped the document apart. I am surprised the country survived at all with the flaw in the constitution as written.

 

[Aratus]

oh taxachusetts, yes... if there is more of a war, we be more than taxed for the same!

 

[Kade]

i didn't attend meet-ups! Kade, if you were at local meet-ups!
i'm sorta late to the cause in a hippie way, and then Gravel freaks
me out. just after i got to post here on these forums, he goes
libertarian! the stock market jitters and the "W" brash saber-wrattlin'
set me off, let alone this request for a PATRIOT ACT III... i went livid!
i know JOHN KERRY tosses someone else's medals over that there
whitehouse fence, and yes... he's anti-war and not truely fond of
the PATRIOT ACT II.. but lately his stances don't cut it. things were
looking more dire or more loused up. bollixed up. i even had the idea
BUSH wants to invade four seperate nations almost simultaniously.
if not at least two or three of them. again, alarming. new deal liberalism
got jettisoned as i went more ayn rand. with a bigger more cumbersome
war and a loused over budget bloat, i was upset. we are still a republic!!!

I attend the Boston Mensan meetings occasionally. Region 1 folk like Engelke.

I come from Newport though.

I also left new deal liberalism around my last two years in college... Fountainhead didn't do it... it was actually Karl Popper-open society...
but I still prefer the Liberal moniker.

 

[Kade]

oh taxachusetts, yes... if there is more of a war, we be more than taxed for the same!

We New Englanders are paying for this war. We are also paying for the welfare states of Texas and the other "bible belt" states who can't make much of their own money... irony in the voting, no?

Yet we remain the more liberal, and also in allowing for certain entitlement benefits in our voting records!

 

[Aratus]

bond servant status permutated in a most peculiar way, kade.
merrie auld england and then ireland in tyme hath a caste system.
class presumes a mobility, if well deserved, a meritocracy! someone
recently quoted again JFK's merrie dining alone quip about THY relative
and if we be mayflower, distantly distantly mine! i know for certain madison,
monroe and washington knew themselves to be time's sons of EDWARD III...
we if with puritan blood are of a mobile middle class! washington when
refusing a crown is cognicent of a bloodline going back to the 1300s!

 

[Aratus]

wars up tax rates. not to turn curses in poor jefferson davis's direction, yet does
the south ALSO have a civil war income tax? i knew the north did, and the recently
read mckinley biographies had me cognicent of the one during the brief splendid lil' war.

 

[Kade]

bond servant status permuated in a most peculiar way, kade.
merrie auld england and then ireland in tyme hath a caste system.
class presumes a mobility, if well deserved, a meritocracy! someone
recently quoted again JFK's merrie dining alone quip about THY relative
and if we be mayflower, distantly distantly mine! i know for certain madison,
monroe and washington knew themselves to be time's sons of EDWARD III...
we if with puritan blood are of a mobile middle class! washington when
refusing a crown is cognicent of a bloodline going back to the 1300s!

"I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent and of human knowledge that has ever been gathered together at the White House — with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

Monarchs in name only! Imperialistic Presidents and Prime Ministers wield greater power now, in the information age, than any former kings before them... the tavern bathrooms could very well be the stablehand spies.

The proletariat are the consumer... the products of the manufactured consent. No tyranny lasted long in the discharge of the intellectuals among them, no doubt.

 

[Kade]

wars up tax rates. not to turn curses in poor jefferson davis's direction, yet does
the south ALSO have a civil war income tax? i knew the north did, and the recently
read mckinley biographies had me cognicent of the one during the brief splendid lil' war.

Western Virginians were made to pay the Civil War income tax, the other states I don't believe were... replaced by the Internal Revenue Act

 

[Aratus]

the dissident mormon flock found modern texas...? and are now are inside
the "down side" of this welfare state? this is after the 33 year old
hoax caller being tracked down? the compound's isolation is hinted at
by the spread of chicken pox so quickly? again, big brother knows all?
said sardonically. this all could have gone thru its paces as ex-governor mitt
was media blitzing running. i wondered if someone simply awaited for a reason!

 

[Kade]

the dissident mormon flock found modern texas...? and are now are inside
the "down side" of this welfare state? this is after the 33 year old
hoax caller being tracked down? the compound's isolation is hinted at
by the spread of chicken pox so quickly? again, big brother knows all?
said sardonically. this all could have gone thru its paces as ex-governor mitt
was media blitzing running. i wondered if someone simply awaited for a reason!

Curious. My utter distaste for Romney would blind me to the injustice... the questions it brings up are of philosophical nature, and the extent of power we are willing to allow... what exceptions, and why... most importantly....HOW.

The chicken pox was indeed curious.... geography is the arbiter of species, the god of evolution, if you will. Thousands of year of such isolation could cause reproductive differences... will this sort of isolation become a split?

Can you imagine a more important question than asking if we have an internal and natural right to secede from society altogether?

 

[Aratus]

again, currency issues or taxes... a war unpaid for by solid gold or the like
either has loans or taxes, or an INFLATED currency. FDR meets HERBERT HOOVER
as shanghai in 1937 encounters the markets of 1929 to 1930 and also the
woodrow wilson expansionism that involved us in europe. if nato overlaps the E.U
and a nato command zone is in afganistan as the U.k is still in SEATO, where are
we if Bush seeks to secure the korean peninsual as we go ALL over ther mid-east
up to the chinese and indian border regions? bush being irreligious seems preferable
to he having a stance more extreme than bob barr's ten commandments having to
be on a lawn other than his own. i know his family had this summer place for 100 yrs
up in Maine, yet this is no guarantee over a full wig~out in a direction that is not WHIG!

 

[Kade]

And on that thought, does this differ in any debate about genetic engineering... is not the isolation any different than tinkering with one's own DNA?

 

[rancher89]

You live in Boston now right? I'm there every weekend.

I've lived in many cities in my life, but Boston is the town of towns.

I enjoyed Boston when we went up for the tea party. We met so many really nice people. I've never heard car horns go off so much tho, everytime you turned around someone was honking at someone....we don't do that so much down south......

 

[Kade]

again, currency issues or taxes... a war unpaid for by solid gold or the like
either has loans or taxes, or an INFLATED currency. FDR meets HERBERT HOOVER
as shanghai in 1937 encounters the markets of 1929 to 1930 and also the
woodrow wilson expansionism that ivolved us in europe. if nato overlaps the E.U
and a nato command zone is in afganistan as the U.k is still in CEATO, where are
we if Bush seeks to secure the korean peninsual as we go ALL over ther mid-east
up to the chinese and indian border regions? bush being irreligious seems preferable
to he having a stance more extreme than bob barr's ten commandments having to
be aon a lawn other than his own. i know his family had this summer place for 100 yrs
up in Maine, yet this is no guarantee over a full wig~out in a direction that is not WHIG!

Pakistan and U.S. are also members of SEATO...

 

[Aratus]

our young are given their shots in childhood if not toddlerhood.
the kids came down with the disease upon being compounded
together NEAR our mainstream people. this is an 1850s utopian format
with perhaps rural electrification encountering the mutation rates of
our public school systems! the poor kids were sick! it hints at an isolation!

 

[Kade]

I enjoyed Boston when we went up for the tea party. We met so many really nice people. I've never heard car horns go off so much tho, everytime you turned around someone was honking at someone....we don't do that so much down south......

I noticed that too...

The funny party is that it is meant as a way to cheer, or a way to express anger...

You can't really tell..
If there is a BoSox game, hope you get stuck in traffic from a crowd coming off a win.