WORST President? (Poll 2/3)

[tmosley]

He's a past president who did some really awful things that set us up for the mess we have now with Bush.

 

[Kade]

He's a past president who did some really awful things that set us up for the mess we have now with Bush.

What exactly did he do that you find upsetting?

 

[Kade]

In my opinion, only the DMCA remains as a blotch on a pretty solid centrist president, certainly not one of the WORST.

 

[Kotin]

FDR Ftw

 

[Bryan]

I'm going with Woodrow Wilson for both the Federal Reserve Act (December 23, 1913) and for the Raker Act (December 19, 1913) which remains arguably the largest environmental disaster ever by allowing San Francisco to violate the sanctity of the Hetch Hetchy Valley with the construction of the O'Shaughnessy Dam. Hetch Hetchy Valley is the near twin sister to Yosemite Valley which receives over 3.5 million visitors per year as it is one the most amazing places on the planet. Today, Hetch Hetchy Valley is a wasteland, water tank that allows a small handful to profit at the complete loss to everyone else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raker_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Shaughnessy_Dam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetch_Hetchy
http://www.hetchhetchy.org/

 

[weslinder]

I vote Lyndon Johnson...

...but I really regret that Truman is not on this list.

1. He chose to vaporize 100,000 civilians on the very debatable claim that it would save lives.

2. He started the official version of the UN.

3. He unilaterally started the Korean police action that provided the model for Vietnam, Lebanon, Grenada, Lybia, Iraq, Bosnia, Somalia, and Afghanistan.

 

[Kludge]

This list is actually missing someone very, very important...

But, the poll itself is subjective.. I mean, seriously, why is Bill Clinton on there?

He was mentioned in the first poll. I like him for his economic policies, but someone pointed out his interventions during his terms.

 

[Kade]

I'm going with Woodrow Wilson for both the Federal Reserve Act (December 23, 1913) and for the Raker Act (December 19, 1913) which remains arguably the largest environmental disaster ever by allowing San Francisco to violate the sanctity of the Hetch Hetchy Valley with the construction of the O'Shaughnessy Dam. Hetch Hetchy Valley is the near twin sister to Yosemite Valley which receives over 3.5 million visitors per year as it is one the most amazing places on the planet. Today, Hetch Hetchy Valley is a wasteland, water tank that allows a small handful to profit at the complete loss to everyone else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raker_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Shaughnessy_Dam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetch_Hetchy
http://www.hetchhetchy.org/

I voted the same.

 

[RCA]

Wilson, no contest.

 

[nate895]

Abe Lincoln started us down the path of centralized government.

 

[ChooseLiberty]

It's amazing that people even know what Lincoln and Wilson did. That's progress.

Before RP's candidacy virtually no one understood how bad they were. Me included.

Now for the problematic Lincoln Memorial. It's a fraud and should be razed.

Can you believe he has a memorial within sight of the Jefferson Memorial?

 

[nate895]

It's amazing that people even know what Lincoln and Wilson did. That's progress.

Before RP's candidacy virtually no one understood how bad they were. Me included.

Now for the problematic Lincoln Memorial. It's a fraud and should be razed.

Can you believe he has a memorial within sight of the Jefferson Memorial?

If I was President my first act would be to remove their portraits from the White House premises.

 

[James Madison]

LBJ was bad, Truman was worse, and Wilson worse still. But it's gotta be "Honest" Abe was the worst president ever. Maybe we should get a thread going on the BEST president?

 

[SimpleName]

Abe & Wilson were bad, but neither had the impact that FDR did.

FDR & crew created the modern US tyrannical state. The military industrial complex, the welfare system, the concentration of power in the exec branch...

FDR is also the only one on the list who is flat out socialist. (AFAIK)

ABSOLUTELY! He is depicted as a savior by the mainstream, but he is the biggest cause of our troubles today. Suddenly it became acceptable for the government to spend out of control, to bail out banks and citizens, to tease other nations into attacking (Pearl Harbor), and of course...the grand daddy of them all, Japanese-American imprisonment. He may not be the most EVIL (Andrew Jackson?), but he is the cause of many problems we face today. People loved him because he just willfully fabricated money for the so-called better of the nation and average citizens. During the time, many Americans started to lose all faith in capitalism and were desperate for a more socialist/communist system. So, what did FDR to bring them back from such thoughts? He simply implemented socialist policies. Gee...no wonder why there are more regulations on business than there is businesses.

 

[nate895]

LBJ was bad, Truman was worse, and Wilson worse still. But it's gotta be "Honest" Abe was the worst president ever. Maybe we should get a thread going on the BEST president?

We'd have three options:

Thomas Jefferson
Calvin Coolidge
William Henry Harrison (he didn't do anything to break the Constitution in those 30 days, did he?)

 

[jclay2]

I have no idea who voted for Andrew Jackson because he was responsible for paying off the national debt and taking down the central bank. Yeah I guess he did have some issues with indians but does that really outweigh the good he did?

The worst president though is very hard to choose. FDR is our country's father of socialism and Wilson got duped into the Federal Reserve. I think I will go with FDR just because Wilson at least admitted his mistake.

 

[nate895]

I have no idea who voted for Andrew Jackson because he was responsible for paying off the national debt and taking down the central bank. Yeah I guess he did have some issues with indians but does that really outweigh the good he did?

The worst president though is very hard to choose. FDR is our country's father of socialism and Wilson got duped into the Federal Reserve. I think I will go with FDR just because Wilson at least admitted his mistake.

Jackson did immediately replace the Central Bank, and he was responsible for the first attack on state sovereignty. I don't think he was the worst, but he certainly laid the foundation.

 

[ChooseLiberty]

"John Kennedy when he dined in the White House and had all the Nobel Prize winners there, President Kennedy made a toast and said, "We've never had this much genius in this room except when Jefferson dined alone.""

 

[nate895]

"John Kennedy when he dined in the White House and had all the Nobel Prize winners there, President Kennedy made a toast and said, "We've never had this much genius in this room except when Jefferson dined alone.""

Maybe JFK wouldn't have been half bad, if only he wanted to eliminate entitlements.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

"John Kennedy when he dined in the White House and had all the Nobel Prize winners there, President Kennedy made a toast and said, "We've never had this much genius in this room except when Jefferson dined alone.""

Haha, thats a really cool quote.