WizardWatson's Magnificent 9/11 Truth Thread: Tale of the Spooky Shemitah

[wizardwatson]

ALERT 8/21/15: JONATHAN CAHN SEEMS TO HAVE MOVED OR DELETED HIS YOUTUBE VIDEOS WHICH DISABLED ABOUT HALF THE VIDEOS IN THIS THREAD. WILL NOTE EACH POST WHEN I HAVE TIME OR FIND ALTERNATE SOURCE.

I just finished reading two books by Messianic Jewish Rabbi Jonathan Cahn.


The Harbinger
(The Ancient Mystery That Holds the Secret of America's Future)

and

The Mystery of the Shemitah
(The 3000-year Old Mystery)

SPOILER ALERT: This thread is all about spoilers to the max, so if you're wanting to be entertained rather than just informed by these books, read them first or ignore this thread. The two books cost money, less than $20 total (On Google Play, you can get them right now), but still enough that people might want in depth reviews before they buy which I plan on providing.

These are Christian books. This thread is about those books, the message of those books, the ministry of Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, and really about the Ron Paul movement, because as you will see if you pay attention, these books are VERY, VERY relevant to all the stuff this movement represents. So much so that I almost see it as kind of spooky that these books have become so famous and yet no one on this forum that I've noticed has really came out and talked about them except for a couple threads and mentions like "Anybody heard about this Shemitah, economic cycle thingy? Sounds interesting". Anyway, obviously now that's not true, but when you understand how CLOSE we are to the dates talked about in the books, it might spook some of you out as well.

Now we are going to be talking about dates. Now I've said many times, and luckily Jonathan also says that it isn't about predicting dates, but the dates manifest themselves nonetheless. They are more "signs" than predictions. As he says, nothing "has to happen". But he also says he thinks it's wise to take note. The most "significant" date he points out from his interpretations is 9/13/15. Now this date is significant but so is 9/11/01 and stock crash of 9/28/08 but 9/13/15 is like the SUPER DATE. It's not a forever continuing thing, it's terminal. But it's not "something happens on that date" but that date is a very significant threshhold.

Now I just wanted to throw the date out there just to break the tension really. That's the gem for the paranoids. And keep in mind The Harbinger is a 2011 book. Mystery of the Shemitah is a 2014 book but it didn't set a new date or anything, it only reinforced and expanded on the concept. NOTHING CHANGED. There wasn't anything like a retraction, or this didn't make sense, etc. He only provided more evidence.


What are these books about?

These books are written by a Messianic Jewish Rabbi who believes that the events surrounding the 9/11 attacks and specifically the details of the 9/11 attack itself as well as the story of Israel, it's rise and fall, the USA, it's rise and fall are inexorably linked and the truth of God's design is written all over the event. He fills nearly 600 pages in the two books making hundreds of connections. He believes we are being warned and he wrote the books because he felt called to warn.

In fact, in my opinion the book title's are quite subtle given their subject matter. A more blunt title would be:

Clear evidence that God Let 9/11 Happen Because Our Nation Has Turned Evil and that's just a warning of something worse coming, so repent today: Part 1: Written in story narrative so it's easy for people to understand."

...and then the Shemitah book would just be:

"Part 2: More evidence in non-fiction form for those who still aren't believing. You got less than a year now, bro."


Why I think you should read these books

Now, some Christians might think, "well, I just trust in God, I don't worry about dates", etc. That's great. I still think you should read these books ESPECIALLY as an RPF'er. I can honestly say it's almost as if these books were directed at people on this forum.

Here are just a few of the subjects touched on: Going off the gold standard, Bretton Woods, IMF, Israel, NYSE, Lehman Brothers

That's just the economic side. He touches the religious side in ways I've never seen anyone do.

I can honestly say after watching hours of this guys videos and reading his books that he, to me, is the Ron Paul of the evangelical movement. I say that in complete seriousness. In the same way I was fed up with politicians, I also have had serious problems with the evangelicals and Christians in general in this country. It seems there was no one with any real fire or passion or inkling of speaking with the Spirit. This guy to me seems like the real deal. He's amazing to watch. And seeing his effect on the simpleton talk show evangelicals that he goes on humbles me. They literally just seem stricken with paralysis at the power of his words.

I watched a video with one talk show host who had read an early copy of Shemitah book and said the ending made him cry. He practically broke down just recalling it. Well, it was powerful, indeed, if you understand it, I didn't think it was "sad", but when you read really powerful truth, especially if you aren't used to it, it can floor you. Why? Because it makes you believe. And when your spirit actually "believes" and touches that world it's very overwhelming. I actually had a similar experience watching another one of his videos a while back when he was talking about how it was obvious from scripture that Jesus was born in the spring. Just the way he unlocks the truth of the bible so effortlessly is awe inspiring.

Just an example in the first 10 minutes of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePr_5Ju7Ib4

He talks about when the crowds were touching Jesus' garments to heal themselves. He makes the connection with the healing "wings" of the Cherubim on the ark of the covenant (Jesus being the living Ark) and how the Hebrew word for "wings" is also the name for the traditional jewish garment that men would wear around their waist that Jesus most certainly would have had. In Luke 8:44 and elsewhere it talks about people touching that "border" and being healed. AND THEN! he makes the connection of God's commandment that you should not reap the corners of your field because that's a gift for the poor (Leviticus 23:22). And he explains how that healing that happened by touching Jesus' garment border was symbolic of the command to give to the poor. Just absolutely amazing and insightful.

And that isn't like some "gem" I found after watching tons of videos, those kinds of things just flow from this guys mouth like a fire hose. I can't even keep up.


The overall message of Jonathan Cahn and the Liberty Movement

There are numerous connections, to me, between the liberty movement and Cahns books. But the main one is definitely 9/11 and repentance. Ultimately his core message is that 9/11 was a judgement/warning to turn back to God. We simply became more defiant.

When I read his books I couldn't help but be reminded of the moment that Ron Paul set himself apart from all the other candidates in the 2008 campaign by talking about blowback? And why? Because the Ron Paul movement represented the only group of people really who understood that America needed to repent. That we needed to change our ways, that ultimately 9/11 was PREVENTABLE. And I think any RPF members who read these books will see that connection plus many more.

I hope tons of you guys read these books, seriously.


What I'm going to Do

I'm going to spend some considerable time digging into this guy. Just like I did with Ron Paul. For me to say someone is the "Ron Paul" of something isn't a small thing. So I'm going to continue vetting him. Now that I've finished his books....

...oh, reminds me...

Granted, I am kind of obsessive when it comes to scripture, religion, and prophecy but I read both of those books in two days where I slept and went to work. Bought them on Google Play on Wednesday and Friday morning and was finished with both Friday night. I actually read Shemitah book first even though it was the second book because reviewers said it summarized the first book. And it did. And it's non-fiction form which is a little less annoying if you want the message fast. But I wasn't dissappointed at all going back and reading Harbinger afterwards. Harbinger is kind of parable story form but all the facts are REAL FACTS, he just wrote it in a fictional narrative, basically so it's dialog instead of him lecturing you.

Shemitah kind of gives you the "factual anomalies" and a strong outline and Harbinger kind of gives it color and makes it much more personal. I recommend both, but for RPF'ers I would say if you had to pick just one, read Shemitah Mystery.

...anyway, now that I've finished the books, probably just going to explore other writings and videos and post related info to this thread. His ministry is an end-times ministry and his books are just the complete message really so it's all relevant.

......

Anyway, want to get a post out so I'll stop here for now. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Going to watch and add to this thread. Hoping to turn this into a discussion thread about the book, but wondering if anyone here has even read it.


Discussion Seeds if you need a launching point:

1. What do you think of the Shemitah as a commandment? That every 7th year all the land is communal and can't be farmed and that all financial debts are wiped out? Obviously, not very libertarian, but it is biblical law. Tyler Durden would approve.

2. What do you think of the concept that God allowed 9/11 to happen? Kind of makes sense when you think about all the weird circumstances surrounding it. The terrorists "did it" but like David killing goliath with a stone it sort of counts as a couldn't-have-happened-without-God miraclulous circumstantial event.

3. What is your opinion of Jonathan Cahn? Does he inspire you? Do you think he's a fraud?



THREAD RULES

1. Be nice and don't make me edit this section.

2. This thread is intentionally in the religious forum. And the theme in that sense is the theme of Jonathan Cahn's ministry which is the unifying concept of repentance and the call of both the righteous AND non-righteous to repentance and believing on Jesus Christ. I would really appreciate if we could stick to that and get along and if we could minimize the petty boring bickering over church doctrine differences that you are all incorrect about.

 

[wizardwatson]

Morning, slackers.

A quick mention about his chapter in Shemitah concerning the mystery of the sevens.

Now the Shemitah cycle is 7 years but as he points out there's a very strong conversion and focus concering the 2001/2008/2015 years of the cycle. Specifically because 2015 is the 7x7 49 year of the jubilee cycle.

Now this 7 business isn't even essential to the mystery and he says that in the book, just fascinating in it's own right.

(If you'd like to look at Jewish calendar, which all this involves, as that's God's calendar, then I recommend http://www.chabad.org which has a great calendar and back and forth conversion along with links to descriptions of holidays, etc. in Judaism. I use it quite a lot.)

So between 9/17/01 and 9/29/08 is 7 years. But it's EXACTLY 7 years on Jewish calendar, both of those days falling on Elul 29, which is last day of Jewish year, that, at sunset becomes the 7th month in the holy year (first month in the civil year). Even "September" which is 9th month actually USED to be 7th month, hence "Sept-". Both of those years, as the book points out are the "every 7 year" Shemitah years.

What about 2015? Elul 29 in 2015 is 9/13, but what's weird is 9/11 is a Friday, which means Elul 29 is Sunday, so the LAST market day is 9/11. The crash in 2001 happened also with the same "market day" that existed on 9/11, because the markets didn't reopen until 9/17, the day of the stock crash.

Anyway, digressing...here's the other weird 7's on Elul 29 (9/29/08) biggest market point drop in history.

The crash was caused by failure to pass 700 billion dollar bailout.
Wall Street wiped out 7% of market value on that day.
2001 crash on 9/17/01 was also a 7% drop.
Point drop on 9/29/08 was 777.68.

So was it an omen? What's weird is you'll even find that word concerning that day if you google it. But not because of the 7's. That day was called an "omen" on Wall Street because there was a weird electronic malfunction and the opening bell would not ring. Spooky

Now just to reiterate, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE BASIS OF HIS SHEMITAH "proof" if you will. This is just extra weirdness on top of the argument he makes in the book. He takes it even further than this in the book showing how there's a weird progression when you go 7 days/hours/minutes backwards but I won't rehash that here.

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I'm fully aware that this is just "Jesus on burnt toast" or a face in the cloud but it's so sophisticated one can't help but take notice. His whole book is way weirder than the spiral lights of Norway, and what did we find out? It's so weird that there was an explanation, some Russian rockets exhaust from a weird spiral crash malfunction mixing with sunrise light.

I think there's an explanation here too, and it isn't some conspiracy of Jews dating thousands of years. It certainly has Jewish fingerprints but only because the real entity behind the curtain is God himself.

That simple to me. I agree with the conclusions of Jonathan Cahn. Hard not to.

 

[wizardwatson]

NOT JUST ABOUT NUMBERS

Let me make that point clear to. Shemitah book isn't even all about numbers. The first book just has one chapter on Shemitah. Mostly it's about symbolism of events and words, etc.

In fact both books really center around one very specific line in scripture, Isaiah 9:10 that I want to get into.

Judgment against Israel's Pride

Isaiah 9:8-11

8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.

9 And all the people shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,

10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.

11 Therefore the LORD shall set up the adversaries of Rezin against him, and join his enemies together;

12 The Syrians before, and the Philistines behind; and they shall devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

Now the heading of "Judgment Against Israel's Pride" is not in the bible it's just a division created by biblehub.com based on agreed upon commentary but it's ultra-fitting. And I included the surrounding verses so you understand the context of 9:10.

Now it is specifically 9:10 that Cahn interprets and breaks down and shows all the hundreds of connections made based on the events around that one little line of scripture. But what's crazy is that it was uttered TWICE by national figures, and not in the proper context.

What is the verse? It's a quote. God is saying, to paraphrase, "People who arrogantly proclaim, 'Oh, you didn't hurt me, I'll come back stronger than before' when I punish them only piss me off even more."

The spooky part of this is that this phrase was uttered by Senate majority leader Tom Daschle, on 9/12/01 and then AGAIN by VP candidate John Edwards at a ceremony related to rebuilding Ground Zero. Both were in the completely WRONG context!

Look at what Tom Daschle said in the Capitol:

...Nothing can replace the losses that have been suffered. I know that there is only the smallest measure of inspiration that can be taken from this devastation. But there is a passage in the Bible, from Isaiah, that I think speaks to all of us at times like this. 'The bricks have fallen down, but we will rebuild with dressed stone; the fig trees have been felled, but we will replace them with cedars.'

That is what we will do. We will rebuild and we will recover. The people of America will stand together because the people of America have always stood together, and those of us who are privileged to serve this great nation will stand with you. God bless the people of America."

Here him say it on video! http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4032478/tom-daschle-9122012

LOL! God is great. That was the FIRST legislative session after 9/11. That was the first "official" legal communication and look at what happened.

"That is what we will do", says Tom. Hey moron, you're quoting something that God is specifically saying makes him mad when people say that. Anyway, Tom, doesn't even know what he's reading. Of all the "comforting" verses he picks, he picks one that isn't comforting at all. It's a precursor to a larger judgment. God made this doofus, John Edwards and all the other countless idiots who chanted all along "WE WILL REBUILD, WE WILL REBUILD" the mouthpieces of a curse.

Newsflash. We DID NOT rebuild.

Here's a little article I found talking about these two specific utterances. I didn't read whole article: http://www.politijim.com/2011/09/monday-freak-out-tom-daschle-and-john.html

 

[wizardwatson]

MORE ON BURNT TOAST FEATURING JULES WINFIELD

What is a miracle? And if they exist, what is the point of a miracle? Does a freak occurrence "prove" God? Is the point of a miracle to prove God?

Ultimately to believe what Jonathan Cahn is writing is to be drawn to God, or at least see that his hand is at work. But what would be the point? As I said his main mission is to draw people into a revival based on repentance. His books make the case that the mystery surrounding 9/11 is God "sealing" that event with the same narrative.

For fun, let's look at a popular culture reference to miracles. I'm posting links to 4 video clips from the movie Pulp Fiction concerning the miracle of Jules and Vincent miraculously being unharmed when an assailant fires at them 5 times from point blank range.

There is another mystery surrounding the scripture in this movie apart from the point I want to make. That being that the quoted scripture isn't scripture at all. Jules uses this line before he kills his marks:

"You read the Bible, Brett?"
"[gasping for breath] Yes...!"
"Well, there's this passage I've got memorized, sorta fits the occasion. Ezekiel 25:17? "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. [begins pacing about the room] And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord... [pulls out his gun and aims at Brett] ...when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
[Brett shrieks in horror as Jules and Vincent shoot him repeatedly]

The whole dilemmna Jules has surrounds the bolded part but in fact only the underlined part is really Ezekiel 25:17. Tarantino either made up the first part or heard it from someone else. It's a mystery online. No one really knows who came up with that. But really the spirit of the made up scripture is beautiful in it's truthfulness. Spooky!

WARNING: These clips are rated R clips from a Rated R movie. There is violence, profanity, and lots of blood. If someone doesn't want to watch but would still like to see the dialog, you can find the screenplay online I'm sure.

NOTE ABOUT VIDEO CLIPS: As I say above in rules, I'd appreciate if people didn't post images or videos in this thread but rather just links. It makes it a pain when trying to view on my phone and I plan to post a lot of video links over time for this so if you could also refrain from embedding videos and images would appreciate.

Clip 1 (Watch all 3:16): Jules and Vincents execute mark and miraculously escape death.
https://youtu.be/Vr6aIURrFvE

Clip 2 (Watch 1st 0:50): Vincent and Jules discuss incident briefly on drive away.
https://youtu.be/LBBni_-tMNs
WARNING: THIS IS AN EXTREMELY GRAPHIC SCENE. ONLY RELEVANT PART IS up to :45. IF YOU WANT TO AVOID SEEING JULES AND VINCENT BATHED IN BLOOD AND BRAIN/BONE TISSUE STOP BEFORE 50 SECOND MARK.

Clip 3 (Watch 1:20 - 4:01): Vincent and Jules discuss incident again in cafe.
https://youtu.be/YujYTVQ4_S0

Clip 4 (Watch all 4:35): Jules discusses incident with cafe robber and discusses repentance.
https://youtu.be/3PeyiU3uWJ8


Now I posted this because eventually Jules has a change of heart. And up until clip 3 before the cafe robbery he says, "that's what I'm trying to figure out." Like, he doesn't understand "why". But when the cafe robber thing happens he sees an opportunity to prove himself and shows mercy. It was God's test. Vincent mocked him for freeing the robber and giving him his money.

And Jules says the truth. He admits that he never really thought about what the scripture meant. But that day made him think about who he was. And what does he say? He says, "but that shit ain't the truth...the truth is YOU are the weak, and I am the tyranny of evil men." In other words the whole incident brought Jules to repentance. He realized his sinful nature and took steps to change it. Vincent didn't. And what happens to Vincent in the movie? The day after or whatever is when Butch kills him.

So as relates to this thread, Jules unlike America after 9/11, and Israel after the Assyrian breach didn't respond with Isaiah 9:10 mentality but humbled himself and sought the truth. He saw God's hand and repented and lived. Vincent did not, and died.

...

So to answer the question at the outset of this post, what is the point of a miracle? A lot of present day connotation thinks it's to prove God. But God doesn't "do them" for these reasons. They are to heal in numerous ways. In Jules' case it was to bring him to repentance, which healed and protected him from judgement. So miracles aren't to "prove" God, but to bring people to God in a way. 9/11 is sort of an anti-miracle. Still spooky and "miraculous" but in a negative judgment kind of way.

 

[wizardwatson]

FIGHT CLUB AND THE SHEMITAH

This connection is all mine. I'm not aware of Jonathan Cahn saying anything about this movie, it's certainly not in the two books, and googling "Jonathan Cahn Fight Club" returns no connections. (Though obviously after this post it may return this thread in a few days.)

If you understand that the Shemitah commandment from God requires clearing all debts and making everyone zero every 7 years a certain movie comes to mind. Fight Club, starring Ed Norton and Brad Pitt. The entire ending premise of the movie surrounds "Project Mayhem" which is a plot to blow up the financial centers of the U.S. infrastructure in order to erase debt. You couldn't get more "Shemitah" than that.

There is even a reference to the other part of the Shemitah that we "let the land rest" and don't cultivate it when Tyler says,

"In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway."

(also eerie that he mentions rockefeller center which is on island of manhattan where WTC was/is)

The movie ends with Tyler and Marla watching towers collapse. It's almost prophetic as this movie came out 2 years before 9/11 in US.

Now what's "Shemitah" about this? How does it tie into Jonathan Cahn's revelatory paradigm? It wasn't released in a Shemitah year. It came to the US on October 6th (my birthday incidentally) but didn't release nationwide until October 15th. Nothing particularly Shemitah about those dates either.

But THE FIRST release date, the FIRST time anyone saw the movie was when it released at the 56th Venice International Film Festival in Italy, on (drumroll) 9/10/1999.

And that date has two significant Shemitah connections. First the whole 9/11 verse that Jonathan Cahn focuses on is Isaiah 9:10. Secondly, the date that debts are wiped from the books is always Elul 29. And although 1999 wasn't a Shemitah year, 9/10/99 was Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar.

Super Spooky.

So the most relevant pop culture movie, Fight Club, to the Shemitah concept and it's relation to 9/11 has two very strong correlations with it's release date, not to mention it's content in general.

So what does this "mean". Is it significant or is it like Paul Dreyfus' plate of potatos in Close Encounters movies. I think it means that there's a significant encoding surrounding 9/11 event symbolism meant to highlight a warning. For those who have ears and eyes God has laced this event with a crazy amount of "coincidences" for those willing to read theh tea leaves. I believe it's an act of mercy that we even have this warning.

More later!

 

[wizardwatson]

*** A GREAT VIDEO

I really enjoyed this video. Gives you a more personal view of Jonathan. He relates stories about his journey, he seems to be having a bit of fun but it's still chocked full of a great message. He relates stories of others telling him they foresaw their paths crossing so he's giving testimony to the Spirit. Leave it to you to see what you think. It ends with a clip of a great speech he gave in D.C. which I actually posted on another thread HERE. Anyway, this is an hour long, but it's a very recent video, after gay marriage legalized, and very powerful. Enjoy:

https://youtu.be/icmhjjQ_lcE

*** AN ARTICLE ABOUT CORRELATION CONVERSION IN SEPTEMBER POSTED BY JONATHAN

This here is a great summary of just how much "signal convergence" we're having around September even outside of Johanthan's Harbinger message. Jonathan posted this article today on his Facebook page. So many things are converging around September. Pope is actually coming to White House on the beginning of the Jubilee year (which I will discuss in next post), which is mentioned in the article:

http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Everything-converges-in-September-of-2015-20150703

Everything converges in September of 2015.

There seems to be anticipation around the world that something big is going to happen in September this year. If ever there had been an expectation for something to happen, September 2015 is one period in history that seems to draw anticipation from all walks of life.

What makes the September convergence even more significant is the fact that references to this period comes from a variety of sources, including governments around the world, those who are involved with the occult, snippets or hints found hidden in the mainstream media and from prophecies in the Bible to name a few. There are also important events scheduled to occur during this time such as the Pope addressing the US Congress on September 23rd with an announcement that will be made and the UN general assembly spanning the period from September 15th, to September 28th. There are also the massive military operations like Jade Helm in the US and others around the world where information is withheld from the public, but it is clear that something big is going on in anticipation of something that will happen later this year. Jade Helm in the US starts on July 15th and is said to end on September 15th. It is interesting to note that various Walmart shopping centers in the US closed down stating plumbing work to be conducted as the reason for the closure, but the evidence showing that they are being converted to military installations. There is also the build-up of military forces in the Ukraine next to Russia by NATO which would preclude that an escalation in conflict is at the door. Most of these events are not even discussed in the mainstream media as to keep panic from spreading and the masses fast asleep. Let us look at this in a little more detail:
On May 13th 2014, the French Foreign Minister was welcomed by Secretary of State John Kerry, Laurent Fabius and made an unexpected announcement during his speech saying:

“We have 500 days to avoid climate chaos. And I know that President Obama and John Kerry himself are committed on this subject and I’m sure that with them, with a lot of other friends, we shall be able to reach success in this very important matter.”

This was repeated three times to the audience, so it must have been a planned disclosure and 500 days from that point in time ends up at September 24th, 2015. Now we have to ask – what would cause climate chaos at such a specific point in time? What is meant by climate chaos? What exactly is it that we have to avoid? What do those in power, with access to cutting edge technology, know that they are hinting at, but not sharing with the general public?

Many movies, series and advertisements also hint at the dates of 9/22-9/24 in them and reference a meteor strike and/or some cataclysmic event that would befall the earth. What is interesting is that many of these hints, pointing to September 22nd or 23rd started occurring decades ago, even before Y2K and 21 December 2012. To mention some of these that you can investigate for yourself on YouTube:
Evan Almighty – mentions the date at which the destruction/cataclysm would take place as noon on September, 22.
Tomorrowland – has a counter in it showing it twice with different dates on it, but both of these dates are shown with hours at 9 and minutes at 22. It also has a Probability indicator showing 100%
In a 2014 episode of The Simpsons – a Rapture counter is counting down to 0 and the 9/22 is then showed on the electricity meter right after that.

Little Shop of Horrors – the movie starts off by mentioning the deadly threat to humanity’s existence that was encountered on the 23rd day of September.

This Is The End – shows the 9/22 and 9/23 dates on the video recording that is made in the airport.

Gone Girl – The date of September 23rd is shown in a note that is handwritten and another reference appears for no reason on the screen during the movie showing “September 23rd – Seven Weeks Home” bearing no reference to the context of the movie at that point.

Hercules - In this 1997 Disney animation there is also a reference to the year 2015 when “the Titans will be released and Hades would rule all”.

I have only listed a few of these to spark your interest, but it is really amazing how many more examples of this subliminal messaging can be found if one scratches below the surface.

With the US Supreme court having legalised same-sex marriages in the US, it is also interesting to consider the 1997 Visions album cover of the group Stratovarius depicting a Rainbow, a Comet, a Blood Moon and a cross in the heavens.

Considering the condition of the world that we live in and considering more tangible aspects such as the world economy, we have a pattern that has emerged over the last 2 centuries. This is clearly explained by Jonathan Kahn in his book – The Mystery of the Shemitah. Kahn explains that the 5 biggest economic collapses occurred around a specific date on the Jewish calendar with the 5 largest stock market point crashes on record occurring on or around Elul 29 with an accuracy of 99.3%. Why does this happen on such a specific date? The Shemitah (every seventh year) was ordained by God as part of the laws given to Israel in Leviticus and Deuteronomy and has been ordained as a year of rest and release during which no work should be done and where debts are cancelled. If Israel kept this law it would turn into a blessing for them and if not – a curse. This was also the reason given as to why Israel went into the Babylonian captivity for 70 years as they did not keep the law for 490 or 7 x 70 years, prior to their captivity.

Lev_25:4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.

Since the western world does not use the Jewish lunar calendar, Elul 29 is obscured from our view and we are mostly unaware of these intersections. Elul 29 is also the last day of the Jewish year. The Jewish New Year, called Rosh Hashanah or the Feast of Trumpets, follows it. In 2001 after the events of 9/11 there was a stock market crash – right on Elul 29 or 17 September 2001. Seven years later exactly, once again on Elul 29 and in this case September 29, 2008, the stock market crashed again. In fact, looking back in history, one finds that all economic crashes occurred on or around Elul 29. Looking at the economy at the moment, we see the situation in the EU with Greece defaulting on their debt payments and the US debt exceeding their GDP and even though the world has not even fully recovered from the 2008 recession, we can clearly see where this is heading – and the date for the next crash, based on historic accounts, is Monday, 14 September 2015.

To increase the significance of the Shemitah year of 2015, the Shemitah of 2015 is also the 7th Shemitah in a row that is then followed by a year of Jubilee. According to God’s Word, every seventh Shemitah year is followed by a year of Jubilee during which the nation of Israel could return to their possession as can be seen in the verses below taken from the King James Bible:

Lev_25:11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.
Lev_25:13 In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession.

You may ask: “How do we know that the year following the Shemitah of 2015 will be a Jubilee?” Well, once again we look back into history and see that exactly 50 years ago, on the Jewish Calendar (to the day), Israel got possession back of Jerusalem during the 6 Day War and exactly 50 years before that was the Balfour declaration – giving Israel back to the Jewish people. This year I predict that Israel will get possession back of the one thing that they have always wanted – the Temple Mount so that they can rebuild their Temple and continue with animal sacrifices.

Considering the economic impact of the Jubilee, we note that Israel was not allowed to plant crops during the Jubilee, neither were they allowed to reap. This means that Israel were supposed to rest for two years in succession: during the seventh Shemitah and the Year of Jubilee. I believe this double impact will also have a more profound impact on the economic collapse that will occur in September.

The next aspect that points us to 2015 being significant is the Blood Moon Tetrad that we are currently in. This is four total lunar eclipses that follow in succession over a period of 2 years and added to this phenomenon is that these occur, once again, on Jewish feast days. This has only occurred 8 times since the time of Christ and the last of the current cycle will occur on the 28th of September 2015 on the Jewish Feast of Sukkot. This will also be a super moon – where the distance between the earth and the moon is at its minimum. Recent occurrences where these heavenly signs marked specific occasions include once again 1967 when Israel got back Jerusalem and 1948 when Israel took back possession of their land after almost 2000 years.

In Genesis 1, God says that He created the Sun and the Moon firstly, for signs and for appointed times and lastly for days and years as can be seen below:
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

He gave the seven Feasts to Israel to “rehearse” every year so that they would know when God’s appointed times could occur. They did not know however that these would be marked by heavenly signs. It is only recently that Pastor Mark Biltz discovered the connection between the Blood Moon Tetrads and the significance of them falling on Jewish Feast Days.
Another interesting fact is that a group of Jews has embarked on a project to restore the Creation Calendar based on the fact that we can scientifically determine the position of the sun and the moon in relation to the earth through algorithms for any time in the future or the past. NASA provide some of this information on their website, but does not go back far enough. According to the website, we are currently in the year 6,000. With the Jewish civil year of 6,001 starting on September 15th or September 16th of 2015 as the day could fall on any of the two days. As with the Creation Days described in Genesis, there were 6 days of creation and on the 7th God rested. Similarly – the Bible predicts a 1,000 year millennium of rest which could be starting this year if the calendar is accurate, where God removes the rulership of man over the earth and rules over the earth himself as prophesied in:

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

When we then see the amazing accuracy with which the world is affected by laws given to Israel in the Bible, what are we to make of prophecies that were made by the Jesus – who is also called “The Word that became Flesh”, with regards to generation of Jews when they are back in the land of Israel? When Jesus gave the Olivet discourse He mentioned that everything that He has spoken of will occur during the generation of Jews that will be living in the land of Israel.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
What was Jesus speaking of? Jacob’s Trouble or the Great Tribulation as described in Revelation, with references to the Books of Daniel and other Prophets. Will this period start in September of this year, considering how everything seems to be converging towards this period of time? Are you ready to meet the Lord Jesus when He comes to remove his Bride from the earth before all of this starts?

I encourage you that if you would like to know more about God’s Word and why we can trust in its authority and authenticity to download a free E-book from:
http://tinyurl.com/ptk8a9h
May the Lord Bless you and keep you!

 

[wizardwatson]

THE PROPHETIC JUBILEE AND THE 7 x 7 SHEMITAH

The scripture concerning the Shemitah is in Leviticus 25:13

First it describes the Shemitah year, then it says that after every 7th Shemitah will be a Jubilee on the 50th year, which is also the 1st year of the new cycle. So the cycle is every 49 years, but it's made clear that the Jubilee year is after the 7th Shemitah year and not coinciding with it (there is disagreement on this with some scholars, fyi)

Leviticus 25

The Sabbatic Year ("Shemitah" in Hebrew)

(Exodus 23:10-13; Deuteronomy 15:1-6)

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses in mount Sinai, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD. 3 Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; 4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. 5 That which groweth of its own accord of thy harvest thou shalt not reap, neither gather the grapes of thy vine undressed: for it is a year of rest unto the land. 6 And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee, 7 And for thy cattle, and for the beast that are in thy land, shall all the increase thereof be meat.

The Year of Jubilee

8 And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. 9 Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. 10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. 11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed. 12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.

Return of Property

13 In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession. 14 And if thou sell ought unto thy neighbour, or buyest ought of thy neighbour's hand, ye shall not oppress one another: 15 According to the number of years after the jubile thou shalt buy of thy neighbour, and according unto the number of years of the fruits he shall sell unto thee: 16 According to the multitude of years thou shalt increase the price thereof, and according to the fewness of years thou shalt diminish the price of it: for according to the number of the years of the fruits doth he sell unto thee. 17 Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God.

So when are the jubilee years? By Jonathan's calculations and many others, the next is September 2015-2016. So when were the previous two? September 1966-1967 and September 1917-1918.

Anything signficant as far as "returning every man unto his possession" concerning the Jews? Yes. November 1917 is the first time Jews were allowed to return to the ancient land of Israel, and 1967 was the six-day war where Jerusalem was won back to the Jews. So in the second to last Jubilee the Jews returned to their land and in the last Jubilee they returned to their holy city.

This video from 41:52 to the end (about 10 minutes) Jonathan talks about the Jubilee and its connection to these events:
https://youtu.be/ab2Rc0TBEvw

Now he mentions something else. He says, "first the land, then the holy city, so then what?" but never answers his own question.

He does say that each of these times coincided with war and Jews making a "prophetic return". Well, after reclaiming the land and the Holy City what else is there?

There is the Holy Temple. The Holy temple is currently under Muslim control, or rather, the Muslim, "Dome of the Rock" which occupies the land the temple was built on is controlled by Muslims.

But does this mean that Israel is going to take control of the temple? I don't think so. Because as any Christian knows, the "Third Temple" may not even be a physical thing, as Christ Himself is referred to symbolically as the 3rd temple. And I think Jonathan understands that and is leaving it to the viewer, as he knows that referencing "war" and the 3rd temple would only cause controversy coming from someone like him when he knows it probably isn't about the Dome of the Rock land anyway.

It's about Christ's return, or at least it points in that direction very strongly.

 

[devil21]

Based on our exchange in my econ Shemitah thread and your talk of "God's judgment", I have a single question.

Do you believe this thing floating around the net about asteroids striking the planet in late September as the manifestation of "God's judgment"?

 

[wizardwatson]

Based on our exchange in my econ Shemitah thread and your talk of "God's judgment", I have a single question.

Do you believe this thing floating around the net about asteroids striking the planet in late September as the manifestation of "God's judgment"?

I don't know. Hadn't heard of that. Is that the Nibiru/Planet X thing? I've said many times on this forum that my intuition has been that America is the biblical Babylon that will be judged in one day/hour with fire. How that manifests I don't know. It talks of sky darkening so I've kind of leaned towards massive volcanic activity, but it could be multiple simultaneous things.

You got a link?

 

[devil21]

I don't know. Hadn't heard of that. Is that the Nibiru/Planet X thing? I've said many times on this forum that my intuition has been that America is the biblical Babylon that will be judged in one day/hour with fire. How that manifests I don't know. It talks of sky darkening so I've kind of leaned towards massive volcanic activity, but it could be multiple simultaneous things.

You got a link?

Here's a random selection from a google search.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1813936/as...-as-conspiracy-theorists-predict-catastrophe/

I will say that in my -extensive- internet travels (and other experiences that I will not document publicly) I have read the thoughts of people claiming to be insiders that allude to something of that nature happening, though obviously not expressly. I won't say I "believe" it (especially given Carol Rosin's Nat'l Press Club speech about it being the next phase of global deception) but it's not without merit as a possibility. Of course this scenario has also been foreshadowed in multiple Hollywood productions....

 

[wizardwatson]

Here's a random selection from a google search.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1813936/as...-as-conspiracy-theorists-predict-catastrophe/

I will say that in my -extensive- internet travels (and other experiences that I will not document publicly) I have read the thoughts of people claiming to be insiders that allude to something of that nature happening, though obviously not expressly. I won't say I "believe" it (especially given Carol Rosin's Nat'l Press Club speech about it being the next phase of global deception) but it's not without merit as a possibility. Of course this scenario has also been foreshadowed in multiple Hollywood productions....

First, I want to thank you for replying to my thread! I should have the first time, was waiting all day to see how long I was gonna have the cheese touch. And it figures all the Christian lurkers on here would play passive, hopefully that'll change.

Ok, so just to be clear, this is the "random" article you posted. Here's a section of that article:

Soon enough, a full blown end-time prophetic statement that originated from a number of sources in the end-time conspiracy theory community had identified September 23-24, 2015, as the asteroid impact apocalypse day.

The prediction was directly inspired by Fabius’s purported “veiled warning” that the asteroid apocalypse would occur in about 500 days. A number of “prophets” had simply grabbed their calculators and with the help of a calendar, and an estimate of 500 days to the apocalypse, determined that the asteroid impact would occur around the time of on the Jewish Day of Atonement in 2015, that is, on September 23-24, 2015.

Now, when I look at stuff I just soak it all in. God is everywhere so all symbols have the "potential" to have layers. If you ever end up reading the Shemitah book you'll understand that more clearly.

Now when I talk to people like this and specifically when other Christians see me say stuff like this they charge of "sorcery" and all this nonsense. Reading signs is nothing more than paying attention. When you are really paying attention what are you paying attention to? Your own understanding of symbols. Your own memory, really. Everything you've learned and everything that's happened to you.

Sorcery is when you appeal to other God's and spirits for help, and when you do ritual ceremonies of other god's. Trying to understand meaning and purpose is not sorcery.

So anyway, that article is talking about September 23rd. As I said the Shemitah end of year debt cancellation that Cahn talks about is September 13th. BUT!!! What I've also outlined in post #7 is the Jubilee year which is the year after this years Shemitah year, but if you look at the scripture you can see that it doesn't begin on the 1st of the next year but on the "Day of Atonement", aka Yom Kippur, which is the 10th day of the 7th Jewish month which is September 23rd.

So the article you've shown me is coinciding with the "Super Shemitah" as Cahn calls it. The prophetic Jubilee year.

Now that article also references Pat Robertson from the 700 club. A famous evangelist television personality. He apparently called Cahn God's "prophet". That was a mistake. I just found an article where another person uses this mistake to try to discredit Cahn.

Here it is: http://www.cogwriter.com/news/proph...uthor-is-gods-prophet-is-he-right-about-2015/

Now this guy tries to discredit saying Cahn doesn't meet criteria as a prophet, which is correct, then tries to say that the rebuilding of the new WTC tower can't imply USA is Babylon, which I also intuit, because Rev 17 refers to a European city on 7 hills. Now couldn't that just mean maybe the G7? Which USA is arguably the head of, given that it spies on everyone and controls the money supply?

Anyway, my point is that this guy is pretending to be an expert. But Cahn isn't just saying "this is my story, and it works because of A, B, and C." Jonathan's story is deep and very interconnected and centers on 9/11. It's the narrative of the Shemitah related to Isaiah 9:10, related to the judgement to come that is powerful.

And why? Because God doesn't care to tell you that an asteroid, or an earthquake, or a tsunami is coming. Because the precise form and location doesn't really matter so much as the impending timing and the reason. God, if he were rational, would want to warn you of WHY he's going to judge. Because the judgement in question is on a specific nation and for a specific reason. It is very detailed. It is a very involved story. And why would God want you to know why he's judging you? So that you can change your ways! To give you a chance to understand and change your ways. See my post about Pulp Fiction above for more on that.

So what I think you need to see is that rather than the Shemitah "pointing outward" to "what's going to happen" you need to see that all this "convergence" as it's called is really scattered noise that points backwards into the real story that is attempting to broadcast. God doesn't care to tell you when the judgment is coming specifically. He wants you to understand what it is, and how to prepare for it. People who are simply in fear and want to find a way to avoid the judgement will never find safety. They will simply get more anxious. You must want to understand the truth, for better or for worse, of what is happening.

In other words, the Shemitah stuff isn't confirming the asteroid or anything else. But rather all this outside noise is pointing backwards to Jonathan Cahn's work and specifically 9/11. And really, deeper than that, what God wants, who he is, and who he is to you and me. It really is personal. And Jonathan makes that clear in the book. It really is all about God wanting the sinning to stop. Truth be told. That is His "glory", that all men should come to repentance. Not just non-believers! Believers too! Don't think because you are clueless about religion that you are any different or have a disadvantage. Doesn't work like that. God judges the heart, not our thought paradigm.

9/11 is the key. Isaiah 9:10 is the prophetic verse. You don't need to know the bible AT ALL to read the Shemitah book. You will learn more about the bible than you've probably learned your whole life just reading that book. It only includes about 10 or 15 actual verses, because it's a story about a judgement. It isn't going to give you "the truth of everything" it's only going to highlight where you are on the map in time and place.

So if Cahn is giving this message is he "chosen" or something? We all are, he would say. But his role he has reiterated many times is just a "Watchman". He saw these things and he felt compelled to sound the horn and raise the alarm. Then who's the one sending the message? Where's it coming from?

Isaiah 9:8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob; and it hath lighted upon Israel

So the Lord is speaking this. Not literally like he's some weird entity and this is how he communicates all the time, there's a reason it's on the down low. Think of it as an ancient machine turning on. Touching literally millions of people's neurons in different ways. It says in the "Terrible Day of the Lord" people will be "red faced" and "flushed", meaning everyone will be tripping out. So also realize a lot of this "anxiety" is to be expected and it will get worse.

Jonathan's words woke me up enough that I ALSO FELT RESPONSIBLE to speak up. Why? Because when I realized his entire matrix of signals surrounded 9/11 and I realized how close the 9/11 truth movement was to the Ron Paul movement I figured this place needs to have a sentry. "Beacons of Gondor" kind of thing.

Anyway, I've wrote a lot, will give you chance to respond. Don't feel you have to answer everything I've written. You can just ask questions if you want. The words are as much for others as yourself.

But my advice to you and all is to read the Shemitah book if you have time. It will SAVE TIME. It would only take about 6 or so hours of reading time. And it's less than $10 on Google Play.

I think you should first off take it as a sign that you are the one that posted that thread first. I think it was your thread that prompted me to originally check out who Jonathan was.

And look at what it unlocked.

 

[devil21]

PM me if you wish to talk further. There's not much else I will publicly write on this topic.

 

[wizardwatson]

PM me if you wish to talk further. There's not much else I will publicly write on this topic.

Sword of truth.

Shield of faith.

Helmet of Salvation.

No disrespect, but I have no interest in discussing any of this stuff "privately". The worst anyone will think is you are crazy. Why do you care about that?

Anyway, you don't have to respond, but if you want me to talk to you it will be public. Mainly because I don't want to repeat myself. If you communicate with me privately, of course, I won't publish what you say, but I'll likely just tell you there's no point in hiding. Fear is unnecessary and I don't want to indulge in the unnecessary paranoia.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

MORE ON BURNT TOAST FEATURING JULES WINFIELD

What is a miracle? And if they exist, what is the point of a miracle? Does a freak occurrence "prove" God? Is the point of a miracle to prove God?

But the main one is definitely 9/11 and repentance. Ultimately his core message is that 9/11 was a judgement/warning to turn back to God. We simply became more defiant.

Okay, I see where you are coming from. A mystical position, which I see working through religious type structures. No doubt, if any mysticism is real, there's plenty of it in that realm.

I go to the same place with something closer to science, but it's also spirituality.

I'm of the firm belief that God is of the collective unconscious, at the least. And yes, 9/11 is a warning. I believe that deeply. But if I'm right, and God is of the collective unconscious, exactly where do we turn?

There are much phenomena of 9/11 that are not discussed, almost at all, and they indicate warning, but much research into the specifics are needed before context of each aspect can be fully understood. I need to see that research done to go tangibly further than I've gone and this post is just a start on that. It may well turn out that in a contextual aspect, something very similar to the Rabbis writings.

Firstly, I will define in a scientific way related to psychology what the collective unconscious is as far as I can discern. And there is substance to that.

These three .pdf's are graphics I created to illustrate some things that are very hard to grasp. They would represent somewhat, the universe God created for us to understand, because we are limited. But this creates scope, and to hold some grasp of Gods universe, scope is vital.

Time is the first hurdle in life. It just doesn't matter in the way we think it does. It's more the intention that matters than time from the standpoints of our human limits.

http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/graphicunconscious/oneyearofyourlife-S1.pdf

http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/graphicunconscious/onedayofyourlife-S2.pdf

http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/graphicunconscious/onedayofyourlife-S3.pdf

 

[wizardwatson]

Okay, I see where you are coming from. A mystical position, which I see working through religious type structures. No doubt, if any mysticism is real, there's plenty of it in that realm.

I go to the same place with something closer to science, but it's also spirituality.

I'm of the firm belief that God is of the collective unconscious, at the least. And yes, 9/11 is a warning. I believe that deeply. But if I'm right, and God is of the collective unconscious, exactly where do we turn?

There are much phenomena of 9/11 that are not discussed, almost at all, and they indicate warning, but much research into the specifics are needed before context of each aspect can be fully understood. I need to see that research done to go tangibly further than I've gone and this post is just a start on that. It may well turn out that in a contextual aspect, something very similar to the Rabbis writings.

Firstly, I will define in a scientific way related to psychology what the collective unconscious is as far as I can discern. And there is substance to that.

These three .pdf's are graphics I created to illustrate some things that are very hard to grasp. They would represent somewhat, the universe God created for us to understand, because we are limited. But this creates scope, and to hold some grasp of Gods universe, scope is vital.

Time is the first hurdle in life. It just doesn't matter in the way we think it does. It's more the intention that matters than time from the standpoints of our human limits.

http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/graphicunconscious/oneyearofyourlife-S1.pdf

http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/graphicunconscious/onedayofyourlife-S2.pdf

http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/graphicunconscious/onedayofyourlife-S3.pdf

This is probably better material for your 9/11 thread on the map I showed you.

Pretty standard stock. When I see sentences that end in periods and it's not answering a question I asked, it is usually intended to provide insight. Not much of this is very insightful. I already addressed your graphics in our primary thread.

You only asked one question, perhaps rhetorical but I'm game.

I'm of the firm belief that God is of the collective unconscious, at the least. And yes, 9/11 is a warning. I believe that deeply. But if I'm right, and God is of the collective unconscious, exactly where do we turn?

I could say one "turns" to Christ but really it's God that does THAT turning. That part isn't really on the conscious side of free will.

Words have meaning.

The Hebrew word for repent, one of them, is "Shub". This word literally means "to turn". So when you ask where to turn, the answer is in the question. This is the nature of God. When you truly seek Him, he will show you signs if you are paying attention.

So Hebrew aside, it isn't so much about "who to turn to" as "what to turn away from."

And the underlying message of these books is about how 9/11 was just precisely that. A call for America to repent for her sins. And how just like ancient Israel, that call made her puff up her chest in defiance.

You claim an interest in 9/11. You would find the books very insightful. I would start in your case with the Shemitah one. You could likely read it in 6 hours. Do you have no interest? I was blown away by the depth of connections. If you want to comment on the unconscious elements of 9/11, sure do it here. If you simply want to focus on expositing your own existential questions and talk to me about it, better to focus on the primary thread.

 

[wizardwatson]

If we think we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred then we have a problem. - Ron Paul

Compare Ron Paul's applause at 1:00 to Rudy Giuliani's applause at 1:38 and you will understand Isaiah 9:9-10.

This was the watershed moment of truth for the Ron Paul movement.

This was May 15th 2007.

Ron Paul Forums was born on May 10th 2007.

static link for mobile viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuX73Ixqtbg

 

[dannno]

Man this thread reminds me of this song. (1997)

The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel

Unmanned drones crashing into the WTC?

the car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel
and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
and a dark wind blows

the government is corrupt
and we're on so many drugs
with the radio on and the curtains drawn

we're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
and the machine is bleeding to death

the sun has fallen down
and the billboards are all leering
and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles

it went like this:

the buildings tumbled in on themselves
mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble
and pulled out their hair

the skyline was beautiful on fire
all twisted metal stretching upwards
everything washed in a thin orange haze

i said: "kiss me, you're beautiful -
these are truly the last days"

you grabbed my hand and we fell into it
like a daydream or a fever

we woke up one morning and fell a little further down -
for sure it's the valley of death

i open up my wallet
and it's full of blood

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

By the way. Jeffrey Lebowski got a carton of milk on the day that Atta and Neo got their license renewed. That's kind of spooky.

Yep, but that fact is nothing compared to those shown in the 26 or so films that all had 9/11 in the BEFORE 9/11. The links are no good, but the names of the films with the instance of the appearance of 9/11 is an invaluable guide. Research showing the exact image with a detailed description upon the complete context of the film and specific scenes where shown could be show some astounding correlations to the a Rabbis writings.

How many are aware of mention of 9-11 in various films, television and other productions BEFORE 9-11? Here's a list.

http://www.cremationofcare.com/images/911/911_simpsons.JPG Simpsons
http://100megsfree4.com/stimso/coup.jpg Coup
http://www.vyzygoth.com/images/9-11beverlyhillscop.jpg Computer Screen in Beverly Hills Cop II (1987)
http://www.vyzygoth.com/images/9-11timetokill.jpg Dialogue in A Time to Kill (1996)
http://www.vyzygoth.com/9-11faceoff.bmp Film: Face/Off (1997) Time: 00:54:13
http://www.vyzygoth.com/9-11awake.png Film: Awakenings (1990)
http://www.vyzygoth.com/pearl1.gif Film: Pearl Harbour (1999)
http://www.vyzygoth.com/images/9-11grems.jpg Film: Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990) Time: 01:10:51
http://www.vyzygoth.com/images/9-11overhead.jpg Film: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
Time: 00:36:14
http://www.vyzygoth.com/images/9-11supermario-1.jpg Film: Super Mario Brothers (1993)
http://www.vyzygoth.com/GODZILLA.jpg Film: Godzilla (1998) Time: 00:41:46
http://www.vyzygoth.com/6.jpg Film: The Sixth Day (2000) Time: 00:04:40
http://www.vyzygoth.com/problem.jpg Film: Problem Child 2 (1991) Time: 00:53:20
http://www.vyzygoth.com/seven.jpg Film: Seven (1995) Time: 01:24:14
http://www.vyzygoth.com/BIGLEBO.gif Film: The Big Lebowski (1998) Time: 00:02:59
http://www.vyzygoth.com/patriot.gif Film: The Patriot (2000)
http://www.vyzygoth.com/INDy.gif Film: Independence Day (1996) Time: 00:45:33
http://www.vyzygoth.com/peace.gif Film: The Peacemaker (1997) Time: 01:28:42
http://www.vyzygoth.com/enemy.gif Film: Enemy of the State (1998) Time: 01:28:06
http://www.vyzygoth.com/13.gif Film: The Thirteenth Floor (1999) Time: 00:53:20
http://www.vyzygoth.com/traffic.gif Film: Traffic (2000) Time: 00:02:17
http://www.vyzygoth.com/pelican.gif Film: The Pelican Brief (1993) Time: 00:41:22
http://www.vyzygoth.com/rug.gif Film: Rugrats in Paris (2000) Time: 00:02:22
http://i44.tinypic.com/2nhhxna.jpg Neo's passport expires on 9-11-01

 

[Anti Federalist]

Soooo...to cut to the chase:

Repent now, for the hour is nigh.

World to end on 13 Sept. 2015.

That about the long and short of it?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Soooo...to cut to the chase:

Repent now, for the hour is nigh.

World to end on 13 Sept. 2015.

That about the long and short of it?