Will you vote for Romney in November now that Obamacare has been upheld?
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TonySutton
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No.
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I didn't answer your poll because Obamacare being upheld has little to do with voting for Romney. He said 3 times he thought Obama should follow his health care plan for the nation and he is the one who INSISTED on a mandate in Massachusetts. Regardless of political flip flopping, I have no doubt his Supreme Court judges would be at least as bad if not worse than those Bush appointed.
What Obamacare being upheld has convinced me of even more is that we need Ron Paul.
Failing that, Romney and Obama are neither one a good direction, so it doesn't impact my vote. Still planning on writing in Ron Paul if he isn't on the ballot.
What Obamacare being upheld has convinced me of even more is that we need Ron Paul.
Failing that, Romney and Obama are neither one a good direction, so it doesn't impact my vote. Still planning on writing in Ron Paul if he isn't on the ballot.
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Hmmm.
If I were Mitt Romney, I'd probably say anything to get elected. Even if it completely contradicts something I said somewhere else.
I'll tell them I'll repeal ObamaCare. Yes I permitted RomneyCare and it's roughly the same merely on the state scale but... campaign rhetoric and such. They'll buy it and eat it up, they've already pretty much nominated me.
Hmmm...
I'd also want to be reelected, though.
I know, I'll just lie.
I'll not work to repeal ObamaCare.
That would piss off the democrats.
So I better not do that.
Why should I do anything for Republicans. Those chumps don't care what I do. They just want to wail about Democrats and wave their dummyflag. I'll give them a war with Iran and they'll roll in the puddle for me in love. Just like Bush.
Instead I know, I'll spend a large amount of time in my administration pandering to Democrats like I've greatly done for my whole political career already. The Republicans votes for me are a sure bet, they'd vote for anything to beat on a D. What are those people going to do, vote for a Democrat?
But, wait wait... I probably still got to do some political theater early on. Make some speeches on it, make it out to be the debble because of democrats, get the anger flowing so they all love me... then I can let it go and work on pandering to the dems and neocons domestically for 2 or 3 years. It's great, those people don't care what their president does really.
I don't really have any principles, and I'm just a rich guy who's bored and likes the feeling of being important, so this plan is brilliant.
Yep that's what I'll do, I'm Mitt Romney, I have emotions and stuff somewhere.
If I were Mitt Romney, I'd probably say anything to get elected. Even if it completely contradicts something I said somewhere else.
I'll tell them I'll repeal ObamaCare. Yes I permitted RomneyCare and it's roughly the same merely on the state scale but... campaign rhetoric and such. They'll buy it and eat it up, they've already pretty much nominated me.
Hmmm...
I'd also want to be reelected, though.
I know, I'll just lie.
I'll not work to repeal ObamaCare.
That would piss off the democrats.
So I better not do that.
Why should I do anything for Republicans. Those chumps don't care what I do. They just want to wail about Democrats and wave their dummyflag. I'll give them a war with Iran and they'll roll in the puddle for me in love. Just like Bush.
Instead I know, I'll spend a large amount of time in my administration pandering to Democrats like I've greatly done for my whole political career already. The Republicans votes for me are a sure bet, they'd vote for anything to beat on a D. What are those people going to do, vote for a Democrat?
But, wait wait... I probably still got to do some political theater early on. Make some speeches on it, make it out to be the debble because of democrats, get the anger flowing so they all love me... then I can let it go and work on pandering to the dems and neocons domestically for 2 or 3 years. It's great, those people don't care what their president does really.
I don't really have any principles, and I'm just a rich guy who's bored and likes the feeling of being important, so this plan is brilliant.
Yep that's what I'll do, I'm Mitt Romney, I have emotions and stuff somewhere.
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IDefendThePlatform
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Poll needs a "Oh Hell no!" option.
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thats a big NO
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I'll be a write in, it's between one of my best friends (who said he'd write me in) and Ron Paul.
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...Any questions?
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I wish the person who said that they planned to vote for Romney "all along" would have had the courage to reveal him/herself.
Naturally, I said NO.
Naturally, I said NO.
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No but for a few mins after the ruling came down, I thought about voting for Romney. But I just cant, this is what he really believes in, he believes that personal responsibility entails everybody being forced to buy healthcare insurance. If there is anything to can say he has convictions on, it is the individual mandate.
Also I do not believe 99% of the so called conservatives in congress want to repeal this law, just look at Boehner who bought insurance stocks after Obama care was passed, do I really think he want to lose money on his investment by repealing this law? HELL NO!!!. Sometimes I imagine these guys all come back to their dungeon and having a big laugh at us, wondering how they can keep they face straight feigning to the cameras. This is a sad day for liberty.
And lets squash this idea that voting for republicans to nominate supreme court justices is a good reason to vote republican come Nov, we can now see how a republican nominated court majority voted to screw us and believe me 2 would have flipped if it was a 6 conservative majority and 3 if it was 4 judge majority and so on. The politicians are in on this, the judges are all in on this and the people are the suckers. Not going to vote for Romney even if we promises and swears on his dead mother's grave that he will repeal Obamacare, I just don't trust them anymore(not that I ever did).
Also I do not believe 99% of the so called conservatives in congress want to repeal this law, just look at Boehner who bought insurance stocks after Obama care was passed, do I really think he want to lose money on his investment by repealing this law? HELL NO!!!. Sometimes I imagine these guys all come back to their dungeon and having a big laugh at us, wondering how they can keep they face straight feigning to the cameras. This is a sad day for liberty.
And lets squash this idea that voting for republicans to nominate supreme court justices is a good reason to vote republican come Nov, we can now see how a republican nominated court majority voted to screw us and believe me 2 would have flipped if it was a 6 conservative majority and 3 if it was 4 judge majority and so on. The politicians are in on this, the judges are all in on this and the people are the suckers. Not going to vote for Romney even if we promises and swears on his dead mother's grave that he will repeal Obamacare, I just don't trust them anymore(not that I ever did).
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There are a couple of scenarios that could come from voting for Romney. I can see the reasoning in option 2 that provides a glimmer of hope but it is a huge risk where as there is no hope with Obama. A risk some may take that could possibly end badly.
Romney:
1. Romney will likely repeal it and will reach across the aisle to build a new bi-partisan plan which will quietly add back the offending elements to be implemented at the state level as a tax. Conservatives will celebrate it noting that it is similar to Newt's conservative plan that enacts it at the state level and as part of welfare reform.
Conservatives will celebrate the new policy of allowing health care competition across state lines and the Democrats will be happy since they still get their plan at the state level modeled after Massachusetts Romneycare.
Like welfare reform, most states will implement it otherwise will lose federal funds. The media will not report these details and your average Republican voter will fall for it possibly with the help of Neocon talk radio and Foxnews.
2. Romney will repeal it, will not add back the individual mandate and will allow competition across state lines. He will be unable to implement mandated Romneycare at the state level due to opposition within his own party that could damage his re-election campaign.
What stands in the way of #2 happening is how emboldened the Neocon base of the party is. If they can keep the Tea Party and Neocon talk radio hosts in-line they maybe able to get away with #1. They will use Newt Gingrich as the poster boy, will exclaim that no one gets a free ride with it, and guys like Mark Levin and Hannity will lie and try to rally their base that it is Constitutional.
Gary Johnson:
- Obama wins and therefore no change.
- Romney wins, therefore pick options 1 or 2 above.
Romney:
1. Romney will likely repeal it and will reach across the aisle to build a new bi-partisan plan which will quietly add back the offending elements to be implemented at the state level as a tax. Conservatives will celebrate it noting that it is similar to Newt's conservative plan that enacts it at the state level and as part of welfare reform.
Conservatives will celebrate the new policy of allowing health care competition across state lines and the Democrats will be happy since they still get their plan at the state level modeled after Massachusetts Romneycare.
Like welfare reform, most states will implement it otherwise will lose federal funds. The media will not report these details and your average Republican voter will fall for it possibly with the help of Neocon talk radio and Foxnews.
2. Romney will repeal it, will not add back the individual mandate and will allow competition across state lines. He will be unable to implement mandated Romneycare at the state level due to opposition within his own party that could damage his re-election campaign.
What stands in the way of #2 happening is how emboldened the Neocon base of the party is. If they can keep the Tea Party and Neocon talk radio hosts in-line they maybe able to get away with #1. They will use Newt Gingrich as the poster boy, will exclaim that no one gets a free ride with it, and guys like Mark Levin and Hannity will lie and try to rally their base that it is Constitutional.
Gary Johnson:
- Obama wins and therefore no change.
- Romney wins, therefore pick options 1 or 2 above.
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