WikiLeaks: 'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

A couple questions I have: Why isn't there anything in the wikileaks that incriminates (or even embarrasses for that matter) the Israeli government? Why did Assange have a private meeting with Israeli leaders and let them edit his leaks before they were released? Why is Israel satisfied with the leaks?
 
JoshLowry said:
Initially the title threw me off, but it's nothing surprising. Fear mongering? Check. That's how they get people to read their articles.
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An Indian national security adviser told American security personnel in June 2008 that terrorists had made a "manifest attempt to get fissile material" and "have the technical competence to manufacture an explosive device beyond a mere dirty bomb".


Alerts about the smuggling of nuclear material, sent to Washington from foreign U.S. embassies, document how criminal and terrorist gangs were trafficking large amounts of highly radioactive material across Europe, Africa and the Middle East.


The alerts explain how customs guards at remote border crossings used radiation alarms to identify and seize cargoes of uranium and plutonium.


Freight trains were found to be carrying weapons-grade nuclear material across the Kazakhstan-Russia border, highly enriched uranium was transported across Uganda by bus

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Thank god all international borders are so secure that no contraband can cross them. Why, we might even have a drug problem in this country if this wasn't the case.

Oh wait...

OTOH, didn't WikiLeaks also reveal gvmt info that said AQ was just over 50 ppl living in caves along the Afgan/Paki border? They must have some serious labs in those caves - I'm tellin ya!

I suspect the bulk of the weapons grade material smuggling is for countries that want a bomb. Not terrorists. Building a basic nuke that will take out a city block is pretty trivial. Using the same amount of material to build one that will take out a city is F'ing HARD!

-t
 
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sofia said:
Read the book that is listed in my signature line....and you shall see what we are up against.
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Sofia, while you dis those who are not truthers, what do you say about Dr. Paul who categorically denies that 9-11 was inside?
 
akforme said:
I doubt they'll use nukes. Unless you have enough to complete the job you are just destroying your own, and they know that.
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Al Qaeda's stated goals are not to destroy the US or the western world, it's to hurt us badly enough that so we won't want to support Israel or other regimes in the Islamic world anymore. In his mind, Bin Laden isn't fighting a thousand year war again a satanic enemy, he's trying to accomplish his short-term objective of getting the US out of way, and if he thinks that using a nuke to kill millions of civilians gets him closer to it, then he probably won't hesitate to pull the trigger. I also doubt that he'd care if he got a lot of his own people killed in the process.
 
The guy that wants one nuke should scare the hell out of you.
The guy that wants a lot of nukes, wants a deterrent.
 
Deborah K said:
Sofia, while you dis those who are not truthers, what do you say about Dr. Paul who categorically denies that 9-11 was inside?
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Ron Paul is a good man....but no one is infallable.

Either A: Ron has a psychological blind spot on this issue (as do many otherwise intelligent people....OR....

B. Ron does not wish to undo his ongoing good works (and Rand;s career)...by committing political suicide. The public cannot handle the truth about 9/11 (read Plato's Allegory of the Cave) and Ron is therefore in a tough spot (if indeed he is a closet truther)

My guess is B...but I cant be sure
 
What is the chance that people will find truth in sources that agree with their world view and call "disinfo" anything that disagrees with their world view?

I'd put the over/under at 95%
 
sofia said:
Wikileaks and Al Qaeda are BOTH Mossad creations.

Because 9/11 Truth has been scoffed at by so many of you....Israel will eventually nuke a US city and the Big Bad Muslims will be blamed.......and most of you will believe it too.
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You are the only thing standing between Israel and total world domination.

 
BlackTerrel said:
What is the chance that people will find truth in sources that agree with their world view and call "disinfo" anything that disagrees with their world view?

I'd put the over/under at 95%
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you are projecting....cuz that's EXACTLY what 911 truth deniers do all the time when defending the fairy tale of the Arab caveman and his gang of nerdy Cessna pilots
 
YumYum said:
A couple questions I have: Why isn't there anything in the wikileaks that incriminates (or even embarrasses for that matter) the Israeli government? Why did Assange have a private meeting with Israeli leaders and let them edit his leaks before they were released? Why is Israel satisfied with the leaks?
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Only around 2% have been released so far.
 
The DoE Info Bridge has material of interest. I would suggest the search terms" filter expedient or filter improvised.

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/basicsearch.jsp

In particular, NUREG/CR-2958; SAND-82-7084 Expedient methods of respiratory protection. II. Leakage tests. Final report discusses leakage tests on manikins through expedient masks made of t-shirts, washcloth and handkerchief material. You are likely to find related documents on that site. As an aside, they found pantyhose a very effective strapping material to assure a tight seal.

This is available in fulltext on the infobridge.

Title Emergency Protection from Aerosols
Creator/Author Cristy, G.A.
Publication Date 2001 Nov 13
OSTI Identifier OSTI ID: 788898
Report Number(s) ORNL-5519
DOE Contract Number AC05-00OR22725
DOI 10.2172/788898
Other Number(s) TRN: AH200136%%165
Resource Type Technical Report
Resource Relation Other Information: PBD: 13 Nov 2001
Coverage Topical
Research Org Oak Ridge National Lab., TN (US)
Sponsoring Org US Department of Energy (US)
Subject 61 RADIATION PROTECTION AND DOSIMETRY; AEROSOLS; HOUSEHOLDS; RADIOACTIVE AEROSOLS; RADIATION PROTECTION; ELECTRIC APPLIANCES; PRESSURIZATION; AIR INFILTRATION; MITIGATION
Description/Abstract Expedient methods were developed that could be used by an average person, using only materials readily available, to protect himself and his family from injury by toxic (e.g., radioactive) aerosols. The most effective means of protection was the use of a household vacuum cleaner to maintain a small positive pressure on a closed house during passage of the aerosol cloud. Protection factors of 800 and above were achieved.
Country of Publication United States
Language English
Format Medium: ED; Size: 58 pages
System Entry Date 2008 Feb 05
 
I dunno....Im still very undecided on Wikileaks. So far the vast majority of the few leaks have been typical establishment rhetoric. This seems like another page straight out of the Feds fearmongering playbook. If there were to be a nuclear strike of some sort, they can easily say "See? We told you!" Whether it's really Al Qaeda or not won't even be questioned.

Didn't Assange promise to do the BoA file dump before the end of January? I'm still waiting...

There's threads over on ATS about VERY LARGE government (FEMA) RFPs for millions of gallons of clean drinking water, millions of ready-made meals, millions of blankets, etc.
 
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pcosmar said:
Bogga Bogga Bogga.

Be very afraid.
:rolleyes:
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ItsTime said:
What are the odds of this being planted disinfo?
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Well, first Assange is an ALLEGED terrorist/rapist who violated the national security of the United States, now all of a sudden his organization gets a headline on 'concealed' information?

Sounds to me like somebody changed their policy on how to use wikileaks for their own benefit. I don't buy it. I think it is a fear campaign. Is it any coincidence that this comes shortly after there are talks of cutting the defense budget?

Duct tape and plastic folks, remember that?
 
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