Why wont McCain just SAY IT..

Conservatism is dead. These two men are arguing about which one can give Americans the most free stuff and free money.

I wouldn't go that far - I'm not confusing these two with America. I think the coming hard times are going to FORCE people to be conservative, these two are throwing out masses of contradictory information as to what they can hand out, when in reality, whomever is President (most likely Obama) is going to be left in charge of a country rebuilding at a time when it should have been a world leader.
 
McCain is talking around and around about the fact that Obama wants wealth redistribution but wont say the one magic word that is really what Obama is really talking about...... SOCIALISM.

Obama can talk anyone into a circle but when you look at his policies, it is plain and simple Marxism.

Why wont McCain just SAY IT!!! Call him on it. My God!

Joe the Plumber is more important...thats why! Jeez, get with it.
 
BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA ARE HUGE SOCIALISTS!

The sheeple think the word "socialism" is cool and intellectual and progressive. The whole 60's counter culture touted it, even thought they were mostly capitalist kids with a relatively high standard of living. That's why so many idiots are voting for Obama. McCain is a socialist, too. Look at how much taxation and income redistribution there is under either Republicans or Democrats. McCain could only accurately say "I'm only 99.5 % as much of a socialist as Senator Obama."
 
At this point, yeah, he should've just laid it out. McCain gets defensive when people want to pull out of Iraq, why doesn't he give a crap when people want to redistribute wealth? I could think of a few answers, but so much for the illusion of opposition.
 
Communism and socialism by themselves are not our enemy. The exercising of state control is.

We really can't afford to alienate the common socialist sympathizer anymore by putting them all under the same blanket.
 
why does that even matter? There should not be a department of education

I think he was referring to rewarding military members with perks that the regular teacher would be denied. I do believe state public schools should certify teachers. When I was younger we has uncertified "babysitters" that were paid for nothing.
 
Communism and socialism by themselves are not our enemy. The exercising of state control is.

We really can't afford to alienate the common socialist sympathizer anymore by putting them all under the same blanket.

Whoever wants the government to 'do something' is a socialist, IMO, be it getting a handout for themselves or their companies, or controlling the contents at their local library, or 'spreading democracy'.

My own father has a socialist streak beginning with his sympathy for unions and a flirtation with Marxism in his youth. He is appalled by today's statism and our bankrupting and has become a RP fan.

I think C4L has potential to spread Constitutionalism to the Democratic Party as well as to the GOP. We need to reach out to 'soft' socialists who also believe in responsible government. They are out there.
 
McCain is talking around and around about the fact that Obama wants wealth redistribution but wont say the one magic word that is really what Obama is really talking about...... SOCIALISM.

Obama can talk anyone into a circle but when you look at his policies, it is plain and simple Marxism.

Why wont McCain just SAY IT!!! Call him on it. My God!
The US Government is a de-facto private corporation. The Fed is part of this corporation.

McCain and Obummer are both employed by the corportaion

Corporations APPOINT CEOs. They don't elect them.

The next POTUS has already been appointed and the election and these debates are a cynical charade to convince you that you live in a democracy.

YOU DON'T!

So stop freeting about the TV debates. It's all rubbish and you and me and everyone else is stuck in the Matrix.

For what it's worth, I believe McCain has been appointed as CEO. The election will be interesting because I believe Obummer will win comfortably.

So enjoy the show as they try to convince you that McCain won it!
 
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I use to be one of those people that really thought there was a big difference in
the Republicans and Democrats and now I can only think how could I had been
so stupid! I can't believe people say the Democrats spend spend spend without
knowing the Republicans spend spend spend, too, but just in different places
as one of the poster's said, well, in a little different words :)

And years ago, Maybe there was a big difference!?
 
I think he was referring to rewarding military members with perks that the regular teacher would be denied. I do believe state public schools should certify teachers. When I was younger we has uncertified "babysitters" that were paid for nothing.
The incentive for anyone (even the uncertified) to do a good job is that if they don't they get fired. And let's face it people hire babysitters just to make sure their kids don't kill themselves. And since you're still alive then the babysitter didn't mess up.
 
They don't what to get into any real fundamentalist arguements about the proper role of goverment, because in that regard they are really the same.
 
McCain is talking around and around about the fact that Obama wants wealth redistribution but wont say the one magic word that is really what Obama is really talking about...... SOCIALISM.

Obama can talk anyone into a circle but when you look at his policies, it is plain and simple Marxism.

Why wont McCain just SAY IT!!! Call him on it. My God!

One socialsit calling another a socialist? At this point, its almost at the level of a compliment. "I'll buy up all the bad mortages and refinance them." "Well, I'll give everyone healthcare." "I was for the bailout first." "NO I was, and it was my idea."
 
For what it's worth, I believe McCain has been appointed as CEO. The election will be interesting because I believe Obummer will win comfortably.

I disagree. I don't think TPTB gives a rat's ass which of these employees of theirs sits in that chair. Why would they? Will either fail to 'play ball'?

The fact that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich received the exact same treatment from the lapdog MSM (and from the other candidates of their respective parties) is all the proof I need that the left/right conundrum that ties us up in such knots is designed specifically for that purpose, and TPTB don't give a $#!+ about it.
 
I disagree. I don't think TPTB gives a rat's ass which of these employees of theirs sits in that chair. Why would they? Will either fail to 'play ball'?

The fact that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich received the exact same treatment from the lapdog MSM (and from the other candidates of their respective parties) is all the proof I need that the left/right conundrum that ties us up in such knots is designed specifically for that purpose, and TPTB don't give a $#!+ about it.

The whole deal is a fantasy.

Fantasy economics

Fantast media

Fantasy election

A lot of American people, and even people on this forum, believe all this bullshit.

If it's any consolation, the British are even dumber than our transatlantic partners.

The British exceed EYERYONE on the planet for guillibility and outright stupidity. Nowhere on the planet has STATISM been so successful. I've been through 44 years of it so far. I shall put the 'nanny' spoon into my mouth right now to prove it.

Excuse me while I walk to the shops, spied upon by CCTV cameras and buy some food in the supermarket, spied upon by CCTV cameras. Then I shall have a beer in a pub and be spied upon by CCTV cameras. YUP. They even have them in the pubs.

They are expecting trouble.

They know the people are gonna go bezerk.
 
why won't Obama call McWar a fascist? For the same reason McWar won't call Obama a socialist - each are both fascist and socialistic, and dumb enough to not realize it.
 
Whoever wins the election is going to be totally chained to the economic crisis.
 
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