Why was Rand so mad last night?

[Kords21]

I wish Rand would be a lot more active in making campaign stops for Ron Paul. It's all good and fine to have joint appearances, but you'll cover a lot more ground if you split up. Rand could really educate and wake people up the NDAA since he was one the primary opponents of it. Hopefully we'll see this happen.

 

[da32130]

That's just silly. I am not a Rand fan, but he did a great job handling all the media interviews those last couple of days. He was smart, to the point, and turned the challenge questions around on the interviewers with regularity. And when he was probed on disagreements with his father, he skillfully avoided answering, while making the interviewer think he had answered. If you compare Ron's interviews in the last couple of days with Rand's, Rand did a much better job. He started out in his own campaign unable to handle the media well, but he has grown in that respect. He's going to be a much better candidate than his dad was in the future. Sadly, I don't like his foreign policy or religiosity, which is much more overt than Ron's. But he's going to be a force because he can do one thing that Ron can't: speak without stumbling all over the place.

I'm not saying he didn't interview well. But that it didn't stop the late shift to Santorum. Why did they hold him back for so long? I'm guessing to win those last minute voters. But it wasn't enough.

As an example, had Palin done the same for Paul it may have turned the tide. Rand just isn't at that level yet.

I don't think that is silly, silly.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

That's just silly. I am not a Rand fan, but he did a great job handling all the media interviews those last couple of days. He was smart, to the point, and turned the challenge questions around on the interviewers with regularity. And when he was probed on disagreements with his father, he skillfully avoided answering, while making the interviewer think he had answered. If you compare Ron's interviews in the last couple of days with Rand's, Rand did a much better job. He started out in his own campaign unable to handle the media well, but he has grown in that respect. He's going to be a much better candidate than his dad was in the future. Sadly, I don't like his foreign policy or religiosity, which is much more overt than Ron's. But he's going to be a force because he can do one thing that Ron can't: speak without stumbling all over the place.

What is Rand's foreign policy?

 

[tfurrh]

Rand was sick that day as well.

 

[Kuthreck]

Frothy Surge.

I do not believe the Polls were touched, I believe the Media Manipulated the People's Choice.

 

[Chainspell]

he was thinking "in 4 years ill make them pay for this.."

 

[Brett85]

What is Rand's foreign policy?

Bring home some or most of the troops, but just not all of them. Put sanctions on Iran, but don't bomb them or invade them. Etc. It's sort of a watered down version of Ron's foreign policy views, which is still far better than anybody else in Congress today. But for some people it's all or nothing.

 

[The Gold Standard]

What is Rand's foreign policy?

Intervention in Iran for one thing. We just can't get enough of that blowback.

 

[TheDrakeMan]

Bring home some or most of the troops, but just not all of them. Put sanctions on Iran, but don't bomb them or invade them. Etc. It's sort of a watered down version of Ron's foreign policy views, which is still far better than anybody else in Congress today. But for some people it's all or nothing.

Personally I like Rand's better, but I know most here will disagree.

 

[No Free Beer]

B/C Ron was cheated.

Did anyone else notice how all the counties that Santorum and Romney won, the votes were counted so quickly?

Whereas all of RP's counties took so long to hit 100%?

I don't care what anyone else says, something wasn't right.

It doesn't make any sense that all the polls had us in either first or second going into the caucus, that CNN's entrance poll had us on top, and then we come (compared to the other two) a distant third.

Oh well, time to move on.

to NH!

...then to SC

Then to Florida...

Then to Washington....

BEEYYYAAAAA

 

[tremendoustie]

Bring home some or most of the troops, but just not all of them. Put sanctions on Iran, but don't bomb them or invade them. Etc. It's sort of a watered down version of Ron's foreign policy views, which is still far better than anybody else in Congress today. But for some people it's all or nothing.

"Sanctions" are what killed 500,000 Iraqi children, and created a big chunk of the blowback that led to 9/11



Murder of innocent civilians is not acceptable.

 

[JohnGalt23g]

There was rigging going on. That's not 'conspiracy' talk, that's from the reports from several parties who spoke to Bev Harris yesterday, or posted to the LRC blog. Harris has herself pointed out that while hand counting is much harder to hack, it is hackable, depending on the post count handling. The differential between the 'entrance'/exit polls and the early results to the final outcome is staggering, and by itself would be enough to be declared fraudulent if we were observing it in a third world country.

To lazily label it as 'loserspeak' to simply note the likelihood of fraud based on the witnesses and experts who have already said so, is the same kind of Pollyanna-loser approach that happened last time. Nothing was challenged in 2008, and how many primaries did Paul go in to win? ZERO. The regime knows if its tricks are not challenged or exposed, it can go right on using them, and so it did. Change won't happen unless the light of truth and critical scrutiny is placed upon the so-called 'transparent process' to ensure that canard is not itself being used to provide cover for the rigging that likely happened.

It's loserspeak. Losers make excuses or why they finished where they finished. Winners don't have to.

You have absolutely no evidence that any votes went uncounted. The campaign themselves has approved of the process. We finished right about where we polled. And yet, you would have us believe that under the eyes of every press organization in the world, some of whom are very friendly to Ron Paul, the vote was hacked by some means, inexplicable only to you.

Loserspeak, plain and simple.

 

[Brett85]

"Sanctions" are what killed 500,000 Iraqi children, and created a big chunk of the blowback that led to 9/11

Murder of innocent civilians is not acceptable.

I'm opposed to sanctions as well. I disagree with Rand on that issue.

 

[Omnica]

So the count "goes to the State" with the Governor plainly and openly against Ron Paul. I think votes that were sent in for Santorium were switched with Paul's votes at State level. Just my opinion.

Say it aint so

 

[anaconda]

I didn't see any indication that Rand was angry. He obviously had been fighting a cold by the way he was sounding in interviews plus he was coughing while standing up there behind Ron.

 

[RickyJ]

He's younger than Ron and has less patience for BS, so my first guess would be that he's outraged about the media's Santorum push and the effect it had on the results. He had personally told a crowd the day before that Ron Paul would be taking first in Iowa, so he may have been kicking himself for overextending his "promise" a bit. That's just a guess though.

He was outraged over the voter fraud that took place. An exit poll shows Ron clearly won it.

 

[MaxPower]

"Sanctions" are what killed 500,000 Iraqi children, and created a big chunk of the blowback that led to 9/11



Murder of innocent civilians is not acceptable.

Now, this is a fallacious "guilt-by-association" argument; the sanction bill which recently went through Congress does contain "humanitarian exceptions" for things like food and medical aid. I don't support it, mind you, but it is not the same as Clinton and Madeleine Albright's blockade against Iraq in the '90s.

 

[anaconda]

He was outraged over the voter fraud that took place. An exit poll shows Ron clearly won it.

Link for exit poll?

 

[libertarian4321]

So the count "goes to the State" with the Governor plainly and openly against Ron Paul. I think votes that were sent in for Santorium were switched with Paul's votes at State level. Just my opinion.

Sometimes stuff happens that we don't like that is NOT the result of a conspiracy. Really.

Even if the governor (and all the state and party officials) were behind some vast conspiracy to "cheat" once the votes were sent to the state, it wouldn't work, because the results are still known at the precinct level- and someone would have noticed that the numbers were not what was reported.

Seriously, guys, it's not a conspiracy. Ron finished right about where the polls predicted he would, as did Romney. Santorum finished a few points higher than expected, probably because every right wing radio jock in the country was pushing him as the last remaining viable Romney alternative.

I would have loved to see Ron win, but he didn't- though he came close in what was damned near a three way tie (and where Ron did fine where delegates are concerned).

Let's quit with the sniveling and the nonsensical conspiracy theory crap, pull up our big boy pants, and move forward.

 

[anewvoice]

Sometimes stuff happens that we don't like that is NOT the result of a conspiracy. Really.....
Let's quit with the sniveling and the nonsensical conspiracy theory crap, pull up our big boy pants, and move forward.

+rep, my wife rewatched this with me and her take was Rand looked really tired, not so much mad. Young whiipersnapper can't keep up with his old man huh?