Why was Rand so mad last night?

[dannno]

Ron is smarter than Rand and knows exactly what is going on. Rand seems to be learning. Whatever Ron is doing he is playing his cards the best he can.

 

[Krugerrand]

Ron is smarter than Rand and knows exactly what is going on. Rand seems to be learning. Whatever Ron is doing he is playing his cards the best he can.

I have been amazed in watching both the 2008 and the 2012 campaign just how politically savvy Ron Paul is.

He played every card right in 2008. (I don't think he ever had a chance then.) He has a narrow chance this go around ... and, so far, has made every move brilliantly.

 

[rprprs]

Personally, I think it's amazing that Paul even came in 3rd considering all the 24/7 lies the media was telling for the last couple of weeks. Not to mention what the other candidates were saying. It was unbelievable. I've never seen anything like it in my entire life.

That's not to say that I'm not disappointed, because I am. But, it ain't over yet.

There you go again, making sense.

Ron was subjected to charges of racism, anti-semitism, homophobia. His foreign policy was misrepresented to paint him as a friend of terrorists. His libertarianism was portrayed as cold and callous, representative of a compassionless dog-eat-dog world. The GOP was told he was not a true Republican. Americans at large were told he was extreme and ultimately unelectable. The people of Iowa, specifically, were told point-blank that voting for Ron would serve only to discredit their cherished first-in-the-nation status. This, and more, was spewed round-the-clock from every source even remotely resembling the mainstream media.

You've never seen anything like it in your life because there never has been anything like it, not only in your life, but EVER.

 

[Spikender]

There you go again, making sense.

Ron was subjected to charges of racism, anti-semitism, homophobia. His foreign policy was misrepresented to paint him as a friend of terrorists. His libertarianim was portrayed as cold and callous, representative of a compassionless dog-eat-dog world. The GOP was told he was not a true Republican. Americans at large were told he was extreme and ultimately unectable. Ihe people of Iowa, specifically, were told point-blank that voting for Ron would serve only to discredit their cherished first-in-the-nation status. This, and more, was spewed round-the-clock from every source even remotely resembling the mainsream media.

You've never seen anything like it in your life because there never has been anything like it, not only in your life, but EVER.

You know, looking at it that way, and taking into consideration that Ron Paul has been hammered by the media 24/7 with any sort of ammunition they can snatch up, Ron Paul has performed superbly. The other candidates got a small share of flak for sure, but they are all part of the establishment, so they are mostly safe. Ron, on the other hand, still has much more of this storm to weather before he enters the calm winds of the eye... after that, it's back into the storm with Obama.

 

[Bossobass]

I don't understand how so many people think the results were legitimate...

No kiddin'.

It's like they pass out the ether here on election night.

Bosso

 

[brushfire]

Romney - 7 delegates
Santorum - 7 delegates
Paul - 7 delegates

So who walked away with IA?

Whats nice too is that this is just yet another opportunity where the media propped up the "wrong guy".
Cain
Bachmann
Perry
Cain again
Newt
Santorum
...and soon to be Huntsman

Even my 3 year old son gets tired of playing "Red light, Green light", after so long. I think the media is depleting their influence - all we need to do is expose the game, and in such a way, to invoke people's sense of self preservation. Was it Tom who said, "How many times are these people going to keep buying the same magic beans?".

I think the timing is just right, and I'm VERY happy with this election cycle, thus far... So weep, drink, punch a door, whatever you need to do in order to get over whatever missed expectation you had over IA, and then get back on the horse. NH will be here before we know it.

 

[randomname]

There you go again, making sense.

Ron was subjected to charges of racism, anti-semitism, homophobia. His foreign policy was misrepresented to paint him as a friend of terrorists. His libertarianim was portrayed as cold and callous, representative of a compassionless dog-eat-dog world. The GOP was told he was not a true Republican. Americans at large were told he was extreme and ultimately unelectable. Ihe people of Iowa, specifically, were told point-blank that voting for Ron would serve only to discredit their cherished first-in-the-nation status. This, and more, was spewed round-the-clock from every source even remotely resembling the mainsream media.

You've never seen anything like it in your life because there never has been anything like it, not only in your life, but EVER.

Ha, and that's only the start of it. That list will grow larger by end of next week. I wish someone would really sum up all of the BS the media has been pulling to stop Ron's momentum and call them out on it, like the Jon Stewart did with the Iowa Straw Poll.

 

[Spikender]

Ha, and that's only the start of it. That list will grow larger by end of next week. I wish someone would really sum up all of the BS the media has been pulling to stop Ron's momentum and call them out on it, like the Jon Stewart did with the Iowa Straw Poll.

It would be good if someone could sum it all up... but there's a LOT of crap that they've pulled, so we're likely looking at one big damn summary...

 

[Brett85]

Probably because he knows that getting 3rd was a huge disappointment.

 

[Mini-Me]

There you go again, making sense.

Ron was subjected to charges of racism, anti-semitism, homophobia. His foreign policy was misrepresented to paint him as a friend of terrorists. His libertarianism was portrayed as cold and callous, representative of a compassionless dog-eat-dog world. The GOP was told he was not a true Republican. Americans at large were told he was extreme and ultimately unelectable. The people of Iowa, specifically, were told point-blank that voting for Ron would serve only to discredit their cherished first-in-the-nation status. This, and more, was spewed round-the-clock from every source even remotely resembling the mainsream media.

You've never seen anything like it in your life because there never has been anything like it, not only in your life, but EVER.

This reminds me that we are truly making history. This is only an election on the surface...behind the scenes, it's an outright war between an evil empire (an entrenched establishment bent on tyranny) and a small band of rebels, who have been character assassinated to hell and back.

 

[TheDriver]

It appeared to me that Rand was sick, as he kept coughing and that isn't normal.

 

[TheTyke]

No kiddin'.

It's like they pass out the ether here on election night.

Bosso

We have people who were there saying the process was legitimate. We have the campaign assuring us it was above board. We have reason, facts and one of the best processes available.

I guess some people are always looking for conspiracies. I encounter that a lot.... people are less interested in real truth than they are justifying the conclusions they already jumped to. That mentality and image doesn't win elections. People are free to believe whatever they want, but it sure doesn't help people take us seriously.

 

[JohnGalt23g]

I don't understand how so many people think the results were legitimate...

Because to do otherwise is loserspeak.

Jesus Christ, we finished third in the Iowa caucuses, besting a former Speaker of the House and a sitting Governor of Texas. Tell me, should Newt and Perry be whining about how the results weren't legitimate?

Seriously?

Did you think that Romney's people from four years ago were just going to go away? Did you think that the high-profile endorsements by evangelical Christians wasn't going to give Santorum a boost? Did you think we were the only ones playing hard there?

We did well, certainly well enough to be considered top-tier for a while. They just happened to do a little bit better. Deal with it.

 

[moostraks]

This reminds me that we are truly making history. This is only an election on the surface...behind the scenes, it's an outright war between an evil empire (an entrenched establishment bent on tyranny) and a small band of rebels, who have been character assassinated to hell and back.

My question is like most 'facts' in history, will we be the ones to write it? Who will know what truly went on and who will believe what lengths both sides went to in order to change the course we are on (or stay it in the case of the opposition)? A person from the North and a peron from the South hold two seperate views on the civil war and now descendants argue about things they had no direct experience in so it all becomes conjecture. I reckon this will be the same sort of thing, and ponder the eventual outcome.

 

[PastaRocket848]

there are a lot of folks out there who see anything that they don't agree with, or that doesn't make sense to them, and scream "conspiracy!" unfortunately our campaign seems to attract quite a few of them. i guess it's the fed position. either way, it's destructive as hell, and pretty much single-handedly earned us the "fringe kook" label in 2008. maybe one day they'll grow up and realize that they don't know anything that anyone else doesn't. certainly they will, most do, as there aren't very many 60 year old conspiracy theorists. it's mainly 18-25 males.

we could certainly do without them.

 

[JohnGalt23g]

Well...

Well, Rush and Dick Morris said Ron is "done".

Rush Limbaugh has an audience he has to placate.

Dick Morris sucks Tardasil off the toes of street-walking prostitutes.

(Man, I can't believe Michele Bachmann dropped out... what am I going to do with all these Tardasil jokes I had stored up for use through SC?)

 

[G-Wohl]

Nobody in the media is even talking about Iowa anymore. Anybody who does engage in such dialog anymore is wasting time.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Ballots are cast, or hands are raised.

If ballots were used, they are hand cast and hand counted with reps from each campaign watching, then results reported to the state (and the organized campaigns have their folks report up to them too, so they can verify no human error occurred over the phone/record keeping).

If hands were used, hands are counted, then results reported to the state.

It's impossible to cheat and a ridiculous claim...

This is why the media and the establishment were scared shit-less that Ron might win. It is really hard to cheat when all of the votes are hand counted immediately. As long as there are Ron Paul supporters watching each precinct's vote and auditing the transmitting and calculating, its very difficult, but not impossible. The biggest risk is not having alert Ron Paul supporters in each precinct or not having alert and knowledgeable RP supporters at the locations watching the reporting of the numbers and accumulations.

I heard one report from a caller to Bev Harris on the radio yesterday where the caller said he was from across the river in Illinois but attended at a location in Scott County where there were 2 (or maybe more) precincts meeting. He told a story about the lights going out for 30 seconds at the same moment that votes were being collected. So, they could do things like that but its hard to see how they could get thousands of votes that way, since Iowa's precincts are all pretty small.

If machines are used there is absolutely no hope, because there's no possible way to audit the results. That's why Ron's not winning Iowa was so disappointing and the elite was so scared--it's really hard to cheat when the votes are hand counted and audited.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Rush Limbaugh has an audience he has to placate.

Dick Morris sucks Tardasil off the toes of street-walking prostitutes.

(Man, I can't believe Michele Bachmann dropped out... what am I going to do with all these Tardasil jokes I had stored up for use through SC?)

And Rush Limbaugh is an opiate junkie. And Bill O'Reilly is a creepy sexual harraser. And Bill Bennett is a slot machine jockey. In what nations of the earth do the piously whipped up evangelicals receive their instructions on whom to vote for from perverts such as prostitute toe sucker Morris? In Persia the voters are told directly by the Mullahs, no cheap intermediaries are required. In Iowa couldn’t those evangelical preachers such as van der Platts just get their own radio and TV shows?

 

[captain]

Ballots are cast, or hands are raised.

If ballots were used, they are hand cast and hand counted with reps from each campaign watching, then results reported to the state (and the organized campaigns have their folks report up to them too, so they can verify no human error occurred over the phone/record keeping).

If hands were used, hands are counted, then results reported to the state.

It's impossible to cheat and a ridiculous claim...

So the count "goes to the State" with the Governor plainly and openly against Ron Paul. I think votes that were sent in for Santorium were switched with Paul's votes at State level. Just my opinion.