Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World!

[klamath]

Another factor of the many that contribute to crime is drug use, production and sales. This includes alcohol. The article JMdrake posted about scotland talks about the drink and knife. Russia I believe has one of the highest drinking rates. Many of the S american countries are major drug producers. My county a few years ago passed a very favorable pot growing ordinance,the local sheriffs wife is a MJ smoker the word got out around the country. People as far away as texas came to grow "medical MJ. The crime rate has spiked in this county as growers fight each other and try and kill pot thieves rading their gardens. One of the local deputies tried to give some stolen MJ back to my brother because he had the wrong address. Some kid had raided a neighbors garden and the deputy had arrested the kid. I am still for legalizing it but I have seen nothing good come from it around here.

 

[Dunedain]

You cited Indonesia as a low crime country. Did you know they have over 700 languages? That is hardly a mono society. It has large Christian and Hindu populations. India is said to be the most diverse country in the world yet it is near the middle not the bottom or top of the list.

I've actually been to these countries, so I feel I have a good understand here especially India.

Indonesia is not very diverse RACIALLY. In the main centers most people are Malyla but have different relgions and speak different langauges. Also, the Island's separate the other racial groups quite nicely so they don't have to fight amoungst each other. Occasionally, all hell breaks loose and people murder each other em massee and theft is a problem.

In India it is very similar. Indians can be Hindu, Shikh, Jain, or Christian but they are still INDIANs racially. They look the same, and are the same racially.
However, crime is rampant there. Not violent crime, I never ever felt afraid but people are constantly trying to steal from you.

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

switzerland has lower crime rates because people over there leave each other the hell alone

 

[BlackTerrel]

You seem to have a lot of strong opinions that are easily dismissed due to the lack of evidence. I notice you also have the low class habit of cursing in your posts when you disagree with someone. Now I see you've used the "racist" term...quite a feeble crutch to drag around with you it seems. But then, being black, you probably are used to people taking you seriously if you call them a racist? You can be assured, I like the overuse of this term...I shows a lot of weakness in an opponent.

Why don't you try and do some research on crime and come back later? It is useful to know if you are right or not when you come out swinging on an issue. For example, you mentioned a number of African cities, or countries or towns that are shining examples of civil obedience. Why don't you toddle off and return with the information for us? Nothing worse than a time waster.

I curse all the time. So fucking what?

You started out by saying diversity caused crime. Then when I showed you were wrong you came back to tell me blacks cause crime. Which is it? What causes crime, those evil blacks or diversity?

 

[prophet]

Race and racial mix are not good indicators of what the crime rate in an area will be and neither is the number of guns. Lots of poor young people is a much better indicator.

Lots of poor young people in my home state of West Virginia, but the violent crime rate is near the bottom every year. WV also has the highest percentage of homes with firearms.

The violent crime rate among the blacks in the NBA(the richest bunch of young people on the planet) is much higher than the rate for the state of West Virginia.

 

[prophet]

I curse all the time. So fucking what?

Which is it? What causes crime, those evil blacks or diversity?

Surely you can answer your own question. Methinks you are jesting with us.

Observant folks had it figured half a century ago. Guess who said this, in 1958: "THEY are afraid to say so in public, but many of the North's big-city mayors groan in private that their biggest and most worrisome problem is the crime rate among Negroes......Negroes, making up 10% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 30% of all arrests, and 60% of the arrests for crimes involving violence or threat of bodily harm—murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. In one city after another, the figures—where they are not hidden or suppressed by politicians—reveal a shocking pattern."

Note the phrase I bolded, and answer my question: Who said that in 1958?

 

[BlackTerrel]

Well stop being so mysterious. Who said it?

And BTW could you think of no other reason why blacks would be arrested more in 1958? Perhaps they were targeted more?

 

[andrewh817]

Call me a neocon but there is also the issue of religious radicalism in the Middle East that does not exist in Switzerland. Your reasons are correct, but we often ignore the immediate in favor of the elusive root cause.

I'm sorry, but smart people endowed with a sense of "self" and the right to arm themselves will often result in deterring crime.

Armed, uneducated, and religious persons are very dangerous for obvious reasons.

 

[Bucjason]

Surely you can answer your own question. Methinks you are jesting with us.

Observant folks had it figured half a century ago. Guess who said this, in 1958: "THEY are afraid to say so in public, but many of the North's big-city mayors groan in private that their biggest and most worrisome problem is the crime rate among Negroes......Negroes, making up 10% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 30% of all arrests, and 60% of the arrests for crimes involving violence or threat of bodily harm—murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. In one city after another, the figures—where they are not hidden or suppressed by politicians—reveal a shocking pattern."

Note the phrase I bolded, and answer my question: Who said that in 1958?

The problem is not black people themsevles, it's the culture of bad parenting that has developed in the inner-cities. We have all these dead-beat fathers that don't feel the responsibility to help raise thier children, and the cycle just keeps repeating itself.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Besides being over- represented in arrests, blacks are also more likely to be poor than whites are.

 

[legion]

People from tropical areas have trouble establishing agriculture/healthy environments because there aren't any freezes to kill off all the disease carrying insects.

Additionally, too much biodiversity is bad because you can't control what kind of weeds you will end up with.

If Africa froze once per year they wouldn't have such a huge problem with Malaria.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The United States used to have problems with malaria too. Tropical areas are not unique to that. http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/history/eradication_us.htm

 

[legion]

We were able to eradicate it thanks to our regular freezes and pesticides, as you can see in your plots.

I'm explaining why tropical areas are poorer than the nations existing north or south of the tropics.

 

[prophet]

Well stop being so mysterious. Who said it?

And BTW could you think of no other reason why blacks would be arrested more in 1958? Perhaps they were targeted more?

It was Time Magazine. http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,810262,00.html#

It was actually the opposite of what you insinuate. It is noteworthy that the article lists ONLY cities outside the Jim Crow South. In 1958, the negro was not free to express his negritude in the South, so the negro crime epidemic involved only cities where the negro was "Free."

It is especially noteworthy that, even in 1958, the PTB "Suppressed" information about the extent of negro crime. Of course it is much worse today, as the FBI stats for 2005 shows negroes raped over 37,000 White women, while Whites raped fewer than 10 negresses. http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368

I posted in refutation of the oft-stated claim, here and elsewhere, that anyone who speaks openly of the scourge of negro crime is a "Racist."


This brings us to my next question, which is, who said this: " Since 1972, the U.S. Department of Justice has conducted a National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) to determine the frequency of certain crimes.

One category is interracial crimes. Its most recent publication (1997), "Criminal Victimization in the U.S.," reports on data collected in 1994. In that year, there were about 1,700,000 interracial crimes, of which 1,276,030 involved whites and blacks. In 90 percent of the cases, a white was the victim and a black was the perpetrator, while in 10 percent of the cases it was the reverse.

Another finding of the NCVS report is that of the 2,025,464 violent crimes committed by blacks in 1994, 1,140,670 were against whites -- that's slightly over 56 percent. Whites committed 5,114,692 violent crimes; 135,360, or 2.6 percent were against blacks.

In 1997, there were 2,336 whites charged with anti-black crimes and 718 blacks charged with anti-white crimes, so-called hate crimes. Although the absolute number of white offenders was larger, the black rate per 100,000 of the population was greater, making blacks twice as likely to commit hate crimes."

Note, especially, this statement: "there were about 1,700,000 interracial crimes, of which 1,276,030 involved whites and blacks. In 90 percent of the cases, a white was the victim and a black was the perpetrator"

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[torchbearer]

Swiss cheese reduces crime.

 

[BlackTerrel]

It was Time Magazine. http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,810262,00.html#

It was actually the opposite of what you insinuate. It is noteworthy that the article lists ONLY cities outside the Jim Crow South. In 1958, the negro was not free to express his negritude in the South, so the negro crime epidemic involved only cities where the negro was "Free."

It is especially noteworthy that, even in 1958, the PTB "Suppressed" information about the extent of negro crime. Of course it is much worse today, as the FBI stats for 2005 shows negroes raped over 37,000 White women, while Whites raped fewer than 10 negresses. http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368

I posted in refutation of the oft-stated claim, here and elsewhere, that anyone who speaks openly of the scourge of negro crime is a "Racist."


This brings us to my next question, which is, who said this: " Since 1972, the U.S. Department of Justice has conducted a National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) to determine the frequency of certain crimes.

One category is interracial crimes. Its most recent publication (1997), "Criminal Victimization in the U.S.," reports on data collected in 1994. In that year, there were about 1,700,000 interracial crimes, of which 1,276,030 involved whites and blacks. In 90 percent of the cases, a white was the victim and a black was the perpetrator, while in 10 percent of the cases it was the reverse.

Another finding of the NCVS report is that of the 2,025,464 violent crimes committed by blacks in 1994, 1,140,670 were against whites -- that's slightly over 56 percent. Whites committed 5,114,692 violent crimes; 135,360, or 2.6 percent were against blacks.

In 1997, there were 2,336 whites charged with anti-black crimes and 718 blacks charged with anti-white crimes, so-called hate crimes. Although the absolute number of white offenders was larger, the black rate per 100,000 of the population was greater, making blacks twice as likely to commit hate crimes."

Note, especially, this statement: "there were about 1,700,000 interracial crimes, of which 1,276,030 involved whites and blacks. In 90 percent of the cases, a white was the victim and a black was the perpetrator"

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Love your four posts... we'll see how long you last.

Look can you not fathom another reason that in 1958 blacks would be arrested for crimes more than whites? Perhaps socio-economic status? Perhaps discrimination?

No dice? It is just because of the melanin of their skin of course

 

[ProBlue33]

This is an interesting thread, I was thinking of some of the murders that have taken place. Most are crime/drug related. If you have people dealing in illegal activities you increase deadly violence.
The Swiss have a very strong society, even Ron Paul has admired it. There neutral stand has proven to be very effective for a strong and prosperous society.

Lazy people also turn to crime to make a quick buck, drugs make a huge amount of money if you don't get caught or dead.

Having guns has nothing to do with it, moral character with a decent economy that put out good jobs is way more important.

When a poor person has tried to get a real job for over 6 months, with no interviews, and suddenly they are offered some big coin to do something illegal, some are going to accept the offer.

A strong economy with people who don't have a lazy disposition but have moral character is how you get the crime rate reduced.

 

[Bruno]

tick, tick, tick

 

[scottish devil]

Love your four posts... we'll see how long you last.

Look can you not fathom another reason that in 1958 blacks would be arrested for crimes more than whites? Perhaps socio-economic status? Perhaps discrimination?

No dice? It is just because of the melanin of their skin of course

Are you saying their skin color proves they were not guilty of these crimes?

 

[Stary Hickory]

It is sad but true. I also think it is natural and long part of our tribal human history.
If more local groups were allowed to declare self autonomy, and the politically
correct would let people choose their own thoughts, people would be allowed to self segregate however they wished.

We could have all black or all latino cities that were populated according to personal preference. This may suggest that eventually complete choice and freedom of democracy could lead to new forms of despotism.

Our best hope is allowed self defense, 2nd ammendment rights and vigilante crime watch that is active and involved.

This is true, the social experiement of the 60s has failed and created a enviorment for suppressed racial tensions which manifests itself in violent crime. People ought to be able to live around people they want to and to hire people they want, to be able to go to school with people they want to. If racial tension and discrimination is ever going to be resolved it's going to happen through voluntary association and not at the end of a barrel of a government gun.