Why "protecting marriage" is retarded

[lucius]

What lucius...did was EXACTLY THAT...

Bullshit Josh,

You are ignorant to this malefic aspect of our social-engineering, an overall Rockefeller pushed 'policy agenda' based upon junk-science, which is what I am pointing out: The elite push this "gay" lifestyle/social-engineering, for it is applied eugenics, generally a reduce lifespan , don't have children and easier to control.

It is not my concern what you do with your property, but with what I now understand, I pity this life-choice like I would pity an individual who has crack addiction. Note--I am in full agreement for being able to buy 'jumbo-ten packs' of crack cocaine at your local convenience store, but I am not going to try to normalize the abnormal and say this is a positive lifestyle like what is now 'policy agenda' inculcating our K12 educational systems.

So take another swing at the piñata, Josh, last one missed:

Lets just get some things out of the way shall we ...

Excellent, let’s cut to the chase--Your minority, degenerative, life choice is based upon junk-science funded by the Rockefeller Foundation as was discovered by the 1954 United States Congressional Reece Committee:

From the Special Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations July 2-9, 1954, p. 69:

“It does not matter that the report [Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male] is unscientific, the important thing is that it be publicized and serve as a basis for reform of sexual behavior and laws which deal with violations of sexual mores.”

The Committee wonders whether The Rockefeller Foundation, which made the Kinsey study possible by the investment of substantial funds, is proud of its work. Research of this type, of which there is much outside the sex field, seems predicated upon the premise that what is wrong with our society is that our moral codes are seriously in need of re-study and revision.

These excerpts from Professor Hobbs’ testimony before this Committee are illuminating (Hearings, p. 124):

The Chairman. As I understand, you are raising a question about the scientific approach which Dr. Kinsey made in conducting this research in the first place, and then some of his comments and conclusions which he wrote into his report, which did not necessarily arise from the basis of his research which he had made?

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. And which might have damaging effect on the psychology of the people, particularly the young people of the country. [The irony…]

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. And at the same time undertaking to give to the country the overall impression that his findings and his comments were based upon a scientific study which had been made, as the basis of a grant. [This junk science: Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male]

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir; a scientific study of the type by implication which you have in physics and chemistry, and, therefore, its conclusions cannot be challenged. [After the suppression of this report, it took almost 30 years for academics to mount a serious challenge to Kinsey. In 1981, when Judith Reisman exposed Kinsey’s pseudoscience…talk about absurd belief structures]

The Chairman. Enumerating in the preface that it was made by a grant from one of the foundations giving it further prestige, possibly, that it was of scientific value, and so forth. [The Rockefeller Foundation]

Dr. Hobbs. That would be correct. I have a statement to that effect to show that very type of influence, which I will come to a little bit later. [Rockefeller and influence, small wonder…]”

…Homosexuality IS NOT a choice. According the the American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association and the American Medical Association and many others…Since 1972 Homosexuality has been not apart of the list of mental disorders...

More Rockefeller money and influence:

“…targeted the members of a worldly priesthood, the psychiatric community, and neutralized them with a radical redefinition of homosexuality itself. In 1972 and 1973 they co-opted the leadership of the American Psychiatric Association and, through a series of political maneuvers, lies and outright flim-flams, they "cured" homosexuality overnight-by fiat. They got the A.P.A. to say that same-sex sex was "not a disorder." It was merely "a condition"-as neutral as lefthandedness.”

Charles W. Socarides, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry at Albert Einstein College of Medicine/Montefiore Medical Center in New York.

…Heterosexuals can spread STD's as much as Gay people (notably men) can…

“The risks associated with homosexual conduct are so drastic, in fact, that U.S. health regulations prohibit men who have sex with men (MSM) and women who have had sex with MSM, from even donating blood.

Consider that, according to the Food and Drug Administration, MSM, “have an HIV prevalence 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first time blood donors and 8,000 times higher than repeat blood donors.”

Adults and children who engage in homosexual conduct, especially males, are also susceptible, at an astronomical rate, to nearly all other forms of sexually transmitted disease (STD). For example, the Hepatitis B virus is about five to six times more prevalent among “gays,” and Hepatitis C is twice as common.

But perhaps most shocking are today’s syphilis rates among homosexual men and adolescents. A recent study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that although homosexuals comprise only a fraction of the population (one to two percent), they account for an epidemic 64 percent of all syphilis cases.”

"Gay" Sex Kills by Matt Barber

…You may wrongly believe homosexuality is perversion (on the bases of a 2000 year old book i guess...

No, I don’t need a 2000 year old book, just look with your own eyes at this public display at the 2008 Up Your Alley Fair in San Francisco: http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/index.php

How the hell do you discriminate against a PERSONAL PREFERENCE????????

CIVIL UNIONS ARE THE SAME THING!!!!!!! ITS THE NAME, "MARRIAGE" THAT THE GAYS WANT. THEIR AIM IS TO REDEFINE MARRIAGE AND PUSH THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE ON STRAIGHT PEOPLE. They cry about intolerance, yet don't practice what the fuck they preach....

This is correct and here is the gay activist's playbook:

'After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990's', by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen: the blueprint activists used to implement this campaign using media and vast money to radicalize America-by processes known as desensitization, jamming and conversion.

To understand the techniques gay activist use (same as the Chinese), see this book:

Robert Jay Lifton's 'Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism': the Chinese are the original masters of desensitization, jamming and conversion, Kirk/Madsen mirror it almost word-for-word.

For more understanding on this push of an eugenic lifestyle (die earlier/don't have children) among the straight, read this book:

Dennis Altman's 'The Homosexualization of America': How the cultural elite "reinvent human nature, reinvent themselves."..."promiscuity and 'impersonal sex' are determined more by social possibilities than by inherent differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals, or even between men and women."

Know that this whole movement hinges upon junk science, done by this freak pedophile named Kinsey, funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, small wonder:

Watch Kinsey's Pedophiles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061305218446628970&hl=en

What individuals do in their bedrooms is no business of mine, but it is important to understand this malefic facet of our social-engineering.

 

[Conservative Christian]

A malefic aspect of our social-engineering, an overall Rockefeller pushed 'policy agenda' based upon junk-science [Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male]: The elite push this "gay" lifestyle/social-engineering, for it is applied eugenics, generally a reduce lifespan , don't have children and easier to control.

You are correct.

Far and away the main reason most homos want their marriages legally recognized, is so they can pressure and even sue the local, county, state and federal governments for the same taxpayer-funded "benefits" that married heterosexual couples get.

In fact, you'll frequently hear homos and liberals openly preaching that homo couples should get the same taxpayer-funded "benefits" as hetero couples.

Hetero couples shouldn't be getting them in the first place, so two wrongs don't make a right. We should eliminate most of the "benefits" for hetero couples, rather than extending them to homo couples, which would only create an even larger and expanding social/welfare constituency.

The other primary reason, is so they can force those same governments to grant them legal access to children through adoption. Which is the only way they can substantially "grow" the gay power movement and lifestyle.

 

[BeFranklin]

If somebody murders you, your rights have just been violated. When somebody steals from you, your rights have just been violated. What rights of mine are being violated if a gay couple is "homosexual-ating"?

Life, liberty, and property. Which of those are being violated by homosexuality?

Nope, not all laws that exist involve a non-consensual victim and requires a punishment - look around you. Homosexuality is an act that objectively and clearly from the facts endangers the participants and the society as a whole. It is an unnatural use of organs that increases the risk of medical conditions to the participants, and the spread of disease between the partipants and the society as a whole. Or another way to put it, the participants are "abusers of men".

As such, it deserves to be illegal in a similar way as reckless driving, or if someone is insanely hitting himself in the head. Treatment. Fines. Illegal to introduce children to.
It is insane to think something like this deserves special status, which is causing disease, rape, and public acts of violence and indency. Even eliminating uncessary laws, laws like reckless driving would remain. This is similar in nature.

And although these are mild corrective laws, and not really part of my original message - I said it is perverse, I did not say anything about legality, I'm sure the gay supporters would scream their heads off. Let them scream. It shouldn't be applauded, it shouldn't be enshrined in marriage, it should be regulated like cigettes aren't sold for children over the counter, and driving badly on the roads will get you pulled over. Same solution that should be in place for any vice - fines for nuances, illegal for children, orders for endangerment or lawsuits for those affected. Jail time? Only if they start morphing into the nazi brownshirts and its a national emergency. That may happen, I'm not joking. Most of the homosexual activists are extreme left and tend that way.

And per my original message, which was not quoted, it is *always* wrong. I didn't say it is always illegal. There are plenty of things that are wrong that aren't illegal and/or involve anyone else. Lying is always wrong, but it isn't always illegal. Homosexuality is *always* a perversion.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Nope, not all laws that exist involve a non-consensual victim and requires a punishment - look around you. Homosexuality is an act that objectively and clearly from the facts endangers the participants and the society as a whole. It is an unnatural use of organs that increases the risk of medical conditions to the participants, and the spread of disease between the partipants and the society as a whole. Or another way to put it, the participants are "abusers of men".

As such, it deserves to be illegal in a similar way as reckless driving, or if someone is insanely hitting himself in the head. Treatment. Fines. Illegal to introduce children to. It is insane to think something like this deserves special status, which is causing disease, rape, and public acts of violence and indency. Even eliminating uncessary laws, laws like reckless driving would remain. This is similar in nature.

And per my original message, which was not quoted, it is *always* wrong. I didn't say it is always illegal. There are plenty of things that are wrong that aren't illegal and/or involve anyone else. Lying is always wrong, but it isn't always illegal. Homosexuality is *always* a perversion.

Your other points are pretty good, but I maintain that society is an amorphous group of individuals, not a legal entity unto itself. If you bring forth specific individuals who can be called "victims", you will have a more convincing case.

 

[BeFranklin]

Your other points are pretty good, but I maintain that society is an amorphous group of individuals, not a legal entity unto itself. If you bring forth specific individuals who can be called "victims", you will have a more convincing case.

Although the case for eliminating all victimless crimes is appealing, I'm going to argue that not all functions of government or society can in the real world be run that way. I'm taking a middle ground. Crimes are one thing that can result in jail time. Regulations are something else that can result in fines, restrictions of public use or sales, how minors are approached or dealt with, and court orders. Vices should go in the second catagory. So should failure to pay a tax.

In which case, I'm all for private prosecution, and eliminating public prosecution completely and all crimes against the state. Regulations would be handled by fines, court orders, and civil courts. I'm guessing many people haven't even heard of private prosecution, but it use to be common, and its a big barrior to preventing the growth of the state.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Although the case for eliminating all victimless crimes is appealing, I'm going to argue that not all functions of government or society can in the real world be run that way. I'm taking a middle ground. Crimes are one thing that can result in jail time. Regulations are something else that can result in fines, restrictions of public use or sales, how minors are approached or dealt with, and court orders. Vices should go in the second catagory. So should failure to pay a tax.

In which case, I'm all for private prosecution, and eliminating public prosecution completely and all crimes against the state. Regulations would be handled by fines, court orders, and civil courts. I'm guessing many people haven't even heard of private prosecution, but it use to be common, and its a big barrior to preventing the growth of the state.

Cool. Would you agree then, that private agencies who specialize in certain types of issues (theft, murder, etc) would be more competent to deal with regulations disputes than one centralized/government run entity (thus creating competition for arbiters who are competent)?

 

[BeFranklin]

Cool. Would you agree then, that private agencies who specialize in certain types of issues (theft, murder, etc) would be more competent to deal with regulations disputes than one centralized/government run entity (thus creating competition for arbiters who are competent)?

I'm not for private agencies really apart from the people. We need to bring back the posse called by sheriefs who are elected by the people, the hue and cry for sponteneous organization when a crime is being commited, the militia for the county, and more common use of citizens arrest, and eliminate the police force entirely - which is essentially a standing army and not at all like the traditional sherieff and peaceful system we once had. When only the posse, hue and cry - which requires a seeable crime against someone, citizens arrest, and militia for large scale threats are used, the ability to pass endless state crimes pretty much vanishes. They require a standing policie force to be effectively enforced. Else only normal crimes are going to be recognized.

 

[chwisch87]

lucius how about we stop with crazy conspiracy theories and stick to real facts. I am not a degenerate nor have I spoken to the validity to kenseys reasearch nor talking about men who engage in high risk behavior. They do not represent the gay population and make up a very small part of it. I never chose to be gay btw thanks but f u. I am on my phone do I will respond to you crazy lies and misconseptions later.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I'm not for private agencies really apart from the people. We need to bring back the posse called by sheriefs who are elected by the people, the hue and cry for sponteneous organization when a crime is being commited, the militia for the county, and more common use of citizens arrest, and eliminate the police force entirely - which is essentially a standing army and not at all like the traditional sherieff and peaceful system we once had. When only the posse, hue and cry - which requires a seeable crime against someone, citizens arrest, and militia for large scale threats are used, the ability to pass endless state crimes pretty much vanishes. They require a standing policie force to be effectively enforced. Else only normal crimes are going to be recognized.

I totally agree, my friend.

 

[lucius]

lucius how about we stop with crazy conspiracy theories and stick to real facts...

If you do not understand the significance that Rockefeller funded junk-science, Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male served as a basis for reform of sexual behavior across this country, i.e. normalizing the abnormal; nor the immense power wielded by government subsidized, tax-exempt foundations, such as the Rockefeller Foundation, we will have little to debate.

Nice attempt at jamming, with the thought terminating cliché ‘conspiracy theory’; it’s old hat around here:

"The use of ‘conspiracy theory’ is a derogatory epithet. It is something the propagandists have deeply embedded [into the collective American psyche] and has been perfected over the decades. It is a useful tool to eliminate articulate dissent, other points of view, and information that might be inconvenient for policy agenda."

Chris Sanders, Political Economist--Sanders Research

 

[Conservative Christian]

Kinsey's Pedophiles:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2061305218446628970&hl=en


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[Conservative Christian]

Kinsey's Attic: The Shocking Story of how One Man's Perversion Changed the World

by Dr. Judith Reisman

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Kinseys-Attic/Judith-A-Reisman/e/9781581824605/?itm=3

"Dr. Alfred Kinsey—often referred to as the “father of the sexual revolution”—has long been associated with the scientific research into human sexuality. Indeed, his work became the bedrock on which current social policy on sexual matters rests.

In Kinsey’s Attic, Judith Reisman counters the massive public affinity for Kinsey and his colleagues and sheds light on the lurid truth regarding his research and the negative effects it has had on American society. Indeed, this darker legacy of Kinsey’s work has resulted in the return of Western culture to the practices of ancient sexual religious cults: the sexual abuse of women, pedophilia, ritual child sacrifice, sadism, bestiality, and numerous other perversions.

Brought into public view are the Kinsey team’s abuse of its research subjects, including children, and the general climate of perversion and excess that masked itself as scientific research. The sources of the ideology that guided his studies into sexuality are explored, leading to the conclusion that his research was designed to achieve predetermined ends: ending Western laws that favor women and children, in particular those pertaining to fornication, breach of promise, adultery, statutory rape, rape, obscenity, abortion, sex education, homicide, and sodomy.

Kinsey’s Attic also investigates the effects of his research on our culture, exposing the societal, governmental, and religious organizations that propagate his ideology. Reisman also explains the effects of mass media on the spread of the sexual revolution and the government’s manipulation of the research data that proves the devastating effects on Kinsean ideology.

Readers will be astonished at the extent to which Kinsey’s ideas have been able to subtly work their way into the accepted beliefs and practices of our culture."

 

[adara7537]

Why don't you click on that: regular old gay people in a regular old city that is now gay. Tens of thousands go to these festivals. Its disease laden sickness.

And yes, I've known a few gay people. They've all told me about public sex in parks, public sex in bathrooms, and one was a practicing witch, so this is pretty standard. Although I did know them, the last few years I've been pretty horrified with what is going on, so I'm going to avoid anyone that tells me they're gay from now on. Get your life straightened out first.

You are ridiculous and ignorant.

Heterosexuals don't have sex in public places? They don't practice witchcraft? So you steer clear of heterosexual people too RIGHT?

Oh no!! TENS OF THOUSANDS go to festivals???? Oh my!!! No!!! My question is what in the hell are you doing looking at web sites like that if you are opposed to homosexuality?

The funny thing is that I have never heard of this festival and I have plenty of gay friends. Even funnier still is the gay friends I happen to be with hadn't heard of it either but somehow Mr. Homophobe here has and has links to pictures and everything-LOLOLOL!! And funnier still is they find it disgusting too because they aren't into BDSM, water sports, or old white guys.

Stop lumping people together.

 

[chwisch87]

If you do not understand the significance that Rockefeller funded junk-science, Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male served as a basis for reform of sexual behavior across this country, i.e. normalizing the abnormal; nor the immense power wielded by government subsidized, tax-exempt foundations, such as the Rockefeller Foundation, we will have little to debate.

Nice attempt at jamming, with the thought terminating cliché ‘conspiracy theory’; it’s old hat around here:

"The use of ‘conspiracy theory’ is a derogatory epithet. It is something the propagandists have deeply embedded [into the collective American psyche] and has been perfected over the decades. It is a useful tool to eliminate articulate dissent, other points of view, and information that might be inconvenient for policy agenda."

Chris Sanders, Political Economist--Sanders Research

I realize some Ron paul supporters are nuts but the fact of the matter is Kinsey is considered today to be bad science, if you actually paid attention to real science you would know this.

Furthermore, just because he got funding from the Rockefeller organization or who the hell ever you are referring too and you someone see some sort of 'new world order' crap is just stupid. I am sorry but you are an idiot and hardly even worth my time. You sit in a basement trying to make conspiracy theories. Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? You are suggesting that a group infiltrated an organization to normalize homosexuality to make everyone gay because they are easier to control ... ... WHAT?

Edit- I am sorry but this whole idea that in 1972 the APA was somehow politically ... idk ... whatever the hell to change the DSM to exclude homosexuality is just stupid. Its a myth promoted by the ex-gay jesus crowd and an outright lie. I have an idea ... go talk to a real psychologist.

 

[BeFranklin]

You are ridiculous and ignorant.

Heterosexuals don't have sex in public places? They don't practice witchcraft? So you steer clear of heterosexual people too RIGHT?

Oh no!! TENS OF THOUSANDS go to festivals???? Oh my!!! No!!! My question is what in the hell are you doing looking at web sites like that if you are opposed to homosexuality?

The funny thing is that I have never heard of this festival and I have plenty of gay friends. Even funnier still is the gay friends I happen to be with hadn't heard of it either but somehow Mr. Homophobe here has and has links to pictures and everything-LOLOLOL!! And funnier still is they find it disgusting too because they aren't into BDSM, water sports, or old white guys.

Stop lumping people together.

There is no public group sex of urine drinking shit eating hetersexuals protected by the government in any place I am aware of in the United States. That is illegal. Clearly, the homosexual activists have achieved something unique here - special status to break the laws in San Fransico for perverse, disease causing behavior.

These fairs seem to be pretty common in San Fransico. The rest of your comments along the line of how dare I know about it, go put my head in the sand ignored.

Here is an article on it. The San Franscio government accepts and condones the festival - Where homosexual activism is trying to take us.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=71616

"Consider how liberal government authorities like Mayor [Gavin] Newsom have corrupted the men in blue by stipulating that police not prosecute public nudity and indecency at homosexual festivals," said a report from Americans for Truth on the graphic activities documented at the event.

"What honor can there be in protecting the public practice of heinous perversions and nudity in the city's streets? The shame of pandering politicians is transferred to the cops who were intended to be guardians of the law and public order," said the organizer's chief, Peter LaBarbera.

Americans for Truth previously worked to raise the nation's awareness of the Folsom Street Fair, which last fall broke into the headlines with its promotional image mocking the Last Supper scene of Jesus Christ and his disciples, replacing the biblical leaders with leather-adorned men and the bread and wine with sex toys.

Here's another story from the last few days like the the old lady getting knocked down, the church worship service invaded, the missionary who received a bomb.

Owners of a Web site that specializes in advice and information for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints say their site was attacked the day following passage of Proposition 8 by people they believe opposed the measure.
Scott Proctor of Meridian magazine said the site was hacked into early Nov. 5, and its home page was replaced with "horrible, explicit lesbians films placed all over the cover." Engineers took the site down immediately after the break-in was discovered, he said.

This response is like that of a rapist bully. It is exactly that. 2 out or 4 of the response have been that, one has been attempted murder, and one has been assault on an old lady. 50% of the responses were to rape. That tells me a lot.

 

[chwisch87]

Ok this whatever street festival actually doesn't happen anymore to my knowledge. But look, i am not saying that homosexuals shouldn't be arrested for public sex ... come on. Besides most of the gay men who do that are people are older ones who still live in closet with sham marriages to woman.

Younger gays AKA me who live openly don't do shit like that nor do any other things you seem to have an issue with. Again STOP lumping us all together.

 

[lucius]

I realize some Ron paul supporters are nuts..

Your response was light; you bring little but derision and attitude--predictable.

...the fact of the matter is Kinsey is considered today to be bad science, if you actually paid attention to real science you would know this…

It took almost 30 years for academics to mount a serious challenge to Kinsey. In 1981, when Judith Reisman exposed Kinsey’s pseudoscience…talk about absurd belief structures.

… I am sorry but this whole idea that in 1972 the APA was somehow politically ... idk ... whatever the hell to change the DSM to exclude homosexuality is just stupid...

More Rockefeller money and influence, here is a quote by Charles W. Socarides, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry at Albert Einstein College of Medicine/Montefiore Medical Center in New York.:

“…targeted the members of a worldly priesthood, the psychiatric community, and neutralized them with a radical redefinition of homosexuality itself. In 1972 and 1973 they co-opted the leadership of the American Psychiatric Association and, through a series of political maneuvers, lies and outright flim-flams, they "cured" homosexuality overnight-by fiat. They got the A.P.A. to say that same-sex sex was "not a disorder." It was merely "a condition"-as neutral as lefthandedness.”

You seem to be rather ignorant; buy a vowel, better yet, here are a few books:

Read After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990's, by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen.

That book turned out to be the blueprint gay activists would use in their campaign to normalize the abnormal through a variety of social engineering techniques once cataloged by Robert Jay Lifton in his seminal work, Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of Brainwashing in China.

In their book Kirk and Madsen urged that gay activists adopt the very strategies that helped change the political face of the largest nation on earth. The authors knew the techniques had worked in China. All they needed was enough media-and enough money, which was provided by large foundations, such as the Rockefeller--to put them to work in the United States. And they did. These activists got the media and the money to radicalize America-by processes known as desensitization, jamming and conversion.

The gay activists aims are for a redefinition of marriage. Gay activists now routinely name themselves as often and as publicly as possible as they wish to be defined. They strive to make the language used to describe them indicate that same-sex couples are "families" with the same values and child-rearing potential as heterosexuals. Paula Ettelbrick, legal director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund proposes: "The norm in this society should be recognizing families in the way that they are self-defined." Just how far can repositioning of this idea go? Elizabeth Birch, executive director of the Human Rights Campaign, tells us: "[Gays] hold sacred seeds. . . . [T]o be gay, lesbian, bisexual, or struggle around gender is literally a gift from God and we [gays] have an enormous amount to teach this nation.", which leads to another book, Dennis Altman's The Homosexualization of America.

In 1982 Altman, himself gay, reported with an air of elation that more and more Americans were thinking like gays and acting like gays. There were engaged, that is, "in numbers of short-lived sexual adventures either in place of or alongside long-term relationships." Altman cited the heterosexual equivalents of gay saunas and the emergence of the swinging singles scene as proofs that "promiscuity and 'impersonal sex' are determined more by social possibilities than by inherent differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals, or even between men and women."

The elite push this lifestyle/social-engineering, for it is applied eugenics, generally a reduce lifespan , don't have children and easier to control.

Once again, it is not my business what people do in the privacy of their homes, but I now understand why this degenerative lifestyle is being promoted by the elite, which was initially discovered by the 1954 U.S. Congressional Reece Committee.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I realize some Ron paul supporters are nuts but the fact of the matter is Kinsey is considered today to be bad science, if you actually paid attention to real science you would know this.

Furthermore, just because he got funding from the Rockefeller organization or who the hell ever you are referring too and you someone see some sort of 'new world order' crap is just stupid. I am sorry but you are an idiot and hardly even worth my time. You sit in a basement trying to make conspiracy theories. Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? You are suggesting that a group infiltrated an organization to normalize homosexuality to make everyone gay because they are easier to control ... ... WHAT?

Edit- I am sorry but this whole idea that in 1972 the APA was somehow politically ... idk ... whatever the hell to change the DSM to exclude homosexuality is just stupid. Its a myth promoted by the ex-gay jesus crowd and an outright lie. I have an idea ... go talk to a real psychologist.

"It ain't so much the things we don't know that hurts us, as it is the things we do know that ain't true."

 

[Josh_LA]

You are correct.

Far and away the main reason most homos want their marriages legally recognized, is so they can pressure and even sue the local, county, state and federal governments for the same taxpayer-funded "benefits" that married heterosexual couples get.

You're a parrot who doesn't even stop to think for one minute

Eugenics aims for HIGHER life expectancy, HEALTHIER people, and LESS homosexuality, some may have misapplied eugenics and some may have misused homosexuality for their ends, but nothing is inherently wrong with eugenics. You are quick to point out the wrongs of homosexuality and "gay agenda" pushing while giving theocratic bigotry a blind pass. You think all gays are guilty of Rockafeller's social engineering and all religious moralists are free from it. Correct me please?

 

[Josh_LA]

Kinsey's Attic: The Shocking Story of how One Man's Perversion Changed the World

by Dr. Judith Reisman

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Kinseys-Attic/Judith-A-Reisman/e/9781581824605/?itm=3

I don't need you to lecture how filthy pedophiles and gays are, but what they do is none of my business and whether they are free to marry and be considered normal does not make it so.

I am deeply offended by treated blacks as human beings, but it's not illegal for me or anybody to think blacks are animals, so I don't care what the law says about blacks, I am free to disagree (so will you be). I don't complain there's some pro-black, anti-white, anti-racist agenda conspiratorily working for eugenics. In fact I know if eugenics were implimented, we can probably get rid of blacks and gays. So don't talk like eugenics will push faggotry or negro lifestyle on humans when it's EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE IF ANYTHING.

Neither blacks nor gays are naturally, historically of the power, so if nature took its course or humans embraced the fittest, gays would certainly NOT be of the advantage. Your arguments are nothing but the real sense of the word, homoPHOBIA, an irrational and unjustified fear and hatred of homosexuals.