Why "protecting marriage" is retarded

Lets just get some things out of the way shall we ...

Excellent, let’s cut to the chase--Your minority, degenerative, life choice is based upon junk-science funded by the Rockefeller Foundation as was discovered by the 1954 United States Congressional Reece Committee:

From the Special Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations July 2-9, 1954, p. 69:

It does not matter that the report [Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male] is unscientific, the important thing is that it be publicized and serve as a basis for reform of sexual behavior and laws which deal with violations of sexual mores.”

The Committee wonders whether The Rockefeller Foundation, which made the Kinsey study possible by the investment of substantial funds, is proud of its work. Research of this type, of which there is much outside the sex field, seems predicated upon the premise that what is wrong with our society is that our moral codes are seriously in need of re-study and revision.

These excerpts from Professor Hobbs’ testimony before this Committee are illuminating (Hearings, p. 124):

The Chairman. As I understand, you are raising a question about the scientific approach which Dr. Kinsey made in conducting this research in the first place, and then some of his comments and conclusions which he wrote into his report, which did not necessarily arise from the basis of his research which he had made?

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. And which might have damaging effect on the psychology of the people, particularly the young people of the country. [The irony…]

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. And at the same time undertaking to give to the country the overall impression that his findings and his comments were based upon a scientific study which had been made, as the basis of a grant. [This junk science: Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male]

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir; a scientific study of the type by implication which you have in physics and chemistry, and, therefore, its conclusions cannot be challenged. [After the suppression of this report, it took almost 30 years for academics to mount a serious challenge to Kinsey. In 1981, when Judith Reisman exposed Kinsey’s pseudoscience…talk about absurd belief structures]

The Chairman. Enumerating in the preface that it was made by a grant from one of the foundations giving it further prestige, possibly, that it was of scientific value, and so forth. [The Rockefeller Foundation]

Dr. Hobbs. That would be correct. I have a statement to that effect to show that very type of influence, which I will come to a little bit later. [Rockefeller and influence, small wonder…]”

…Homosexuality IS NOT a choice. According the the American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association and the American Medical Association and many others…Since 1972 Homosexuality has been not apart of the list of mental disorders...

More Rockefeller money and influence:

“…targeted the members of a worldly priesthood, the psychiatric community, and neutralized them with a radical redefinition of homosexuality itself. In 1972 and 1973 they co-opted the leadership of the American Psychiatric Association and, through a series of political maneuvers, lies and outright flim-flams, they "cured" homosexuality overnight-by fiat. They got the A.P.A. to say that same-sex sex was "not a disorder." It was merely "a condition"-as neutral as lefthandedness.”

Charles W. Socarides, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry at Albert Einstein College of Medicine/Montefiore Medical Center in New York.

…Heterosexuals can spread STD's as much as Gay people (notably men) can…

“The risks associated with homosexual conduct are so drastic, in fact, that U.S. health regulations prohibit men who have sex with men (MSM) and women who have had sex with MSM, from even donating blood.

Consider that, according to the Food and Drug Administration, MSM, “have an HIV prevalence 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first time blood donors and 8,000 times higher than repeat blood donors.

Adults and children who engage in homosexual conduct, especially males, are also susceptible, at an astronomical rate, to nearly all other forms of sexually transmitted disease (STD). For example, the Hepatitis B virus is about five to six times more prevalent among “gays,” and Hepatitis C is twice as common.

But perhaps most shocking are today’s syphilis rates among homosexual men and adolescents. A recent study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that although homosexuals comprise only a fraction of the population (one to two percent), they account for an epidemic 64 percent of all syphilis cases.”

"Gay" Sex Kills by Matt Barber

…You may wrongly believe homosexuality is perversion (on the bases of a 2000 year old book i guess...

No, I don’t need a 2000 year old book, just look with your own eyes at this public display at the 2008 Up Your Alley Fair in San Francisco: http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/index.php

How the hell do you discriminate against a PERSONAL PREFERENCE????????

CIVIL UNIONS ARE THE SAME THING!!!!!!! ITS THE NAME, "MARRIAGE" THAT THE GAYS WANT. THEIR AIM IS TO REDEFINE MARRIAGE AND PUSH THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE ON STRAIGHT PEOPLE. They cry about intolerance, yet don't practice what the fuck they preach....

This is correct and here is the gay activist's playbook:

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'After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990's', by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen: the blueprint activists used to implement this campaign using media and vast money to radicalize America-by processes known as desensitization, jamming and conversion.

To understand the techniques gay activist use (same as the Chinese), see this book:

Robert Jay Lifton's 'Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism': the Chinese are the original masters of desensitization, jamming and conversion, Kirk/Madsen mirror it almost word-for-word.

For more understanding on this push of an eugenic lifestyle (die earlier/don't have children) among the straight, read this book:

Dennis Altman's 'The Homosexualization of America': How the cultural elite "reinvent human nature, reinvent themselves."..."promiscuity and 'impersonal sex' are determined more by social possibilities than by inherent differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals, or even between men and women."

Know that this whole movement hinges upon junk science, done by this freak pedophile named Kinsey, funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, small wonder:

Watch Kinsey's Pedophiles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061305218446628970&hl=en

What individuals do in their bedrooms is no business of mine, but it is important to understand this malefic facet of our social-engineering.
 
Excellent, let’s cut to the chase--Your minority, degenerative, life choice is based upon junk-science funded by the Rockefeller Foundation as was discovered by the 1954 United States Congressional Reece Committee:

From the Special Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations July 2-9, 1954, p. 69:

It does not matter that the report [Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male] is unscientific, the important thing is that it be publicized and serve as a basis for reform of sexual behavior and laws which deal with violations of sexual mores.”

The Committee wonders whether The Rockefeller Foundation, which made the Kinsey study possible by the investment of substantial funds, is proud of its work. Research of this type, of which there is much outside the sex field, seems predicated upon the premise that what is wrong with our society is that our moral codes are seriously in need of re-study and revision.

These excerpts from Professor Hobbs’ testimony before this Committee are illuminating (Hearings, p. 124):

The Chairman. As I understand, you are raising a question about the scientific approach which Dr. Kinsey made in conducting this research in the first place, and then some of his comments and conclusions which he wrote into his report, which did not necessarily arise from the basis of his research which he had made?

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. And which might have damaging effect on the psychology of the people, particularly the young people of the country. [The irony…]

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. And at the same time undertaking to give to the country the overall impression that his findings and his comments were based upon a scientific study which had been made, as the basis of a grant. [This junk science: Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male]

Dr. Hobbs. Yes, sir; a scientific study of the type by implication which you have in physics and chemistry, and, therefore, its conclusions cannot be challenged. [After the suppression of this report, it took almost 30 years for academics to mount a serious challenge to Kinsey. In 1981, when Judith Reisman exposed Kinsey’s pseudoscience…talk about absurd belief structures]

The Chairman. Enumerating in the preface that it was made by a grant from one of the foundations giving it further prestige, possibly, that it was of scientific value, and so forth. [The Rockefeller Foundation]

Dr. Hobbs. That would be correct. I have a statement to that effect to show that very type of influence, which I will come to a little bit later. [Rockefeller and influence, small wonder…]”



More Rockefeller money and influence:

“…targeted the members of a worldly priesthood, the psychiatric community, and neutralized them with a radical redefinition of homosexuality itself. In 1972 and 1973 they co-opted the leadership of the American Psychiatric Association and, through a series of political maneuvers, lies and outright flim-flams, they "cured" homosexuality overnight-by fiat. They got the A.P.A. to say that same-sex sex was "not a disorder." It was merely "a condition"-as neutral as lefthandedness.”

Charles W. Socarides, M.D., clinical professor of psychiatry at Albert Einstein College of Medicine/Montefiore Medical Center in New York.



“The risks associated with homosexual conduct are so drastic, in fact, that U.S. health regulations prohibit men who have sex with men (MSM) and women who have had sex with MSM, from even donating blood.

Consider that, according to the Food and Drug Administration, MSM, “have an HIV prevalence 60 times higher than the general population, 800 times higher than first time blood donors and 8,000 times higher than repeat blood donors.

Adults and children who engage in homosexual conduct, especially males, are also susceptible, at an astronomical rate, to nearly all other forms of sexually transmitted disease (STD). For example, the Hepatitis B virus is about five to six times more prevalent among “gays,” and Hepatitis C is twice as common.

But perhaps most shocking are today’s syphilis rates among homosexual men and adolescents. A recent study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that although homosexuals comprise only a fraction of the population (one to two percent), they account for an epidemic 64 percent of all syphilis cases.”

"Gay" Sex Kills by Matt Barber



No, I don’t need a 2000 year old book, just look with your own eyes at this public display at the 2008 Up Your Alley Fair in San Francisco: http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/index.php



This is correct and here is the gay activist's playbook:

514t.jpg


'After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990's', by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen: the blueprint activists used to implement this campaign using media and vast money to radicalize America-by processes known as desensitization, jamming and conversion.

To understand the techniques gay activist use (same as the Chinese), see this book:

Robert Jay Lifton's 'Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism': the Chinese are the original masters of desensitization, jamming and conversion, Kirk/Madsen mirror it almost word-for-word.

For more understanding on this push of an eugenic lifestyle (die earlier/don't have children) among the straight, read this book:

Dennis Altman's 'The Homosexualization of America': How the cultural elite "reinvent human nature, reinvent themselves."..."promiscuity and 'impersonal sex' are determined more by social possibilities than by inherent differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals, or even between men and women."

Know that this whole movement hinges upon junk science, done by this freak pedophile named Kinsey, funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, small wonder:

Watch Kinsey's Pedophiles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061305218446628970&hl=en

What individuals do in their bedrooms is no business of mine, but it is important to understand this malefic facet of our social-engineering.

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The argument I put forth was not about safety-it was about individual liberty to be as "stupid" as one wants. If you want to ban homosexual "marriage" (or its equivalent) because it is risky, then you will naturally open up a pandora's box of statist evils. It will not end well, I warn you. If you welcome the government into your personal life, the intrusions will never, ever end. :(:mad:
 
The argument I put forth was not about safety-it was about individual liberty to be as "stupid" as one wants. If you want to ban homosexual "marriage" (or its equivalent) because it is risky, then you will naturally open up a pandora's box of statist evils. It will not end well, I warn you. If you welcome the government into your personal life, the intrusions will never, ever end. :(:mad:

Funny how we haven't had homosexual marriage for 200 years since the founding of this country, and we had more freedom then than we do now :rolleyes:
 
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Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences

by Dr. Judith Reisman


"In 1948, the Institute for Sex Research at Indiana University was led by eugenicist Alfred C. Kinsey, whose sex research shook America's moral foundation and launched the 1960's Sexual Revolution. Fifty years later new revelations confirm Dr. Judith's Reisman's 1981 expose of scientific fraud and criminally derived data contained in the publicly funded Kinsey Reports. Dr. Reisman's revealed that Kinsey conducted human experiments in a soundproof laboratory built to his specifications at Indiana University, and that the sexual abuse of at least 317 infants and young boys was scientific protocol for Kinsey's 1948 report. Dr. Reisman discloses for the first time the ongoing consequences to the American people and the world based on Kinsey's deliberately skewed research."

http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/2005/08/kinsey_crimes_c_1.html
 
So, I haven't read this whole thread, but um, how many of you actually know any gay people?

And wtf is this shit??

THEIR AIM IS TO REDEFINE MARRIAGE AND PUSH THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE ON STRAIGHT PEOPLE. They cry about intolerance, yet don't practice what the fuck they preach....

I suppose if you are talking about activists specifically perhaps?!?!? Of course I have never met a gay activist......just regular old gay people...
 
So, I haven't read this whole thread, but um, how many of you actually know any gay people?

And wtf is this shit??

THEIR AIM IS TO REDEFINE MARRIAGE AND PUSH THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE ON STRAIGHT PEOPLE. They cry about intolerance, yet don't practice what the fuck they preach....

I suppose if you are talking about activists specifically perhaps?!?!? Of course I have never met a gay activist......just regular old gay people...

No, I don’t need a 2000 year old book, just look with your own eyes at this public display at the 2008 Up Your Alley Fair in San Francisco: http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/index.php

Why don't you click on that: regular old gay people in a regular old city that is now gay. Tens of thousands go to these festivals. Its disease laden sickness.

And yes, I've known a few gay people. They've all told me about public sex in parks, public sex in bathrooms, and one was a practicing witch, so this is pretty standard. Although I did know them, the last few years I've been pretty horrified with what is going on, so I'm going to avoid anyone that tells me they're gay from now on. Get your life straightened out first.
 
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Posted: November 11, 2008
Christian missionary Gary Stevenson and his family

Christian missionary Gary Stevenson thought the pink, gift-wrapped bag he found on his doorstep was a present left for one of his toddler daughters, but when he brought it inside his home, the bomb within the bag exploded.

Add to other news above. Its going the same way as the Nazi brownshirts.
 
Before World War II, radical artistic movements – such as the Dadaists (who were deliberately anti-art and anti-sense) – and political groups such as the Communists flourished in Berlin. The city, famous throughout the world for its relaxed attitude towards sex, was also the centre of Germany's gay community.

In addition, the German capital was the site of the Institute for Sexual Science. This had been founded in 1919 by pioneering sexologist and homosexual reformer Magnus Hirschfeld (1868-1935). His term to describe homosexuals – 'the third sex' – was in common use in the city at the time.

Ie - The Kinsey institute for today. The more I keep reading this, the more the parallels are exactly the same. And we seem destined to repeat it because the history has been obscured for political purposes.

As they were during the Weimar period, 1918-1933, psychiatry and academia have been hijacked and pressed into the service of establishing homosexualism as the basis of a new Kultur. Professor Hans Blueher, a practicing physician whose specialty was psychiatry, was accepted by the Nazis as the apostle and higher authority of a new social order. Blueher’s school held that male homosexual lovemaking is in itself a good thing and spiritually energizing. Blueher’s teaching became popular in Nazi circles during the period between the two World Wars and promoted the idea that a well-regulated ritual of homosexualism was a unique force capable of creating the State and assuring its leadership. The resulting creed relegated women to a purely biological function and eliminated the family as a constituent cell in the community.

IE sounds that gay slang of "tolerance" today - 'breeders'.
 
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So, I haven't read this whole thread, but um, how many of you actually know any gay people?

And wtf is this shit??

THEIR AIM IS TO REDEFINE MARRIAGE AND PUSH THEIR PERSONAL CHOICE ON STRAIGHT PEOPLE. They cry about intolerance, yet don't practice what the fuck they preach....

I suppose if you are talking about activists specifically perhaps?!?!? Of course I have never met a gay activist......just regular old gay people...


I've known several gays. They were just regular people, though. Looking over the thread, it seems that the anti-gay people here are specifically referring to militant gays. If that's the case, I agree with them. These gays don't mind their own business, and are quite frankly annoying. :p
 
BINGO! I'm completely fed up with homosexual sheeple blaming societal attitudes on homosexuality on "big, bad Christians". They ignorantly ASSume that anybody opposed to homosexuality and the gay power movement, is a drooling religious fanatic with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson posters plastered all over the walls of their home.

The militant atheist and communist dictator, Leonid Brezhnev, who resided over the officially atheist Soviet state for many years---once stated in an official speech to his fellow atheist and communist party cohorts---that homosexuality would NOT be tolerated in the Soviet Union.

In fact, for many decades, a substantial number of homosexuals were sent to Soviet forced labor camps, simply because they were homosexuals.

In many PAGAN parts of the world, where Christianity has never even seen the light of day, homosexuals have been frequently imprisoned, killed etc. over the centuries.

What lucius and BeFranklin did was EXACTLY THAT, just because some gay perverts had a mark in history of crime does not mean all fags among us are the same. Otherwise you can say the same for all whites and all Christians based on Ted Haggard.

Who cares if pagans killed gays? Does that make it less OK? Are you suggesting that sharing common grounds of being less aggressive than pagans makes you saint?
 
Funny how we haven't had homosexual marriage for 200 years since the founding of this country, and we had more freedom then than we do now :rolleyes:

YEah of course, we had the freedoms to lynch blacks and beat women (rule of thumb), we had the freedoms to invade other countries without Congressional approval (people didn't have phones to call their Reps anyway), we had the freedoms to kill each other over secession. I'd love to go back to that. (no, not sarcastic, I really do!)

The fact ANYBODY wants to get legally married shows their submission to the system of social slavery. A free person doesn't want to be labeled married or gay for better or worse.
 
What lucius and BeFranklin did was EXACTLY THAT, just because some gay perverts had a mark in history of crime does not mean all fags among us are the same. Otherwise you can say the same for all whites and all Christians based on Ted Haggard.

Who cares if pagans killed gays? Does that make it less OK? Are you suggesting that sharing common grounds of being less aggressive than pagans makes you saint?

All murderers murder. All thieves steal. All homosexuals homosexual-ate.

Its an action, not a physical characteristic. And that action is always wrong.
 
Can everyone stop referring to homosexuals as "fags"? It's extremely offensive and a hateful word - it certainly doesn't give any legitimacy to your already extremely ignorant and illegitimate argument to begin with.

All murderers murder. All thieves steal. All homosexuals homosexual-ate.

Its an action, not a physical characteristic. And that action is always wrong.

Oh?

If somebody murders you, your rights have just been violated. When somebody steals from you, your rights have just been violated. What rights of mine are being violated if a gay couple is "homosexual-ating"?

Life, liberty, and property. Which of those are being violated by homosexuality?

You're either bigot, a Theocrat, or a socialist. Pick one.
 
All murderers murder. All thieves steal. All homosexuals homosexual-ate.

Its an action, not a physical characteristic. And that action is always wrong.

that action is always wrong?

So what? Taxation is theft and abortion is murder, who cares?

By this logic, all liars lie, and???
 
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Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences

by Dr. Judith Reisman

"In 1948, the Institute for Sex Research at Indiana University was led by eugenicist Alfred C. Kinsey, whose sex research shook America's moral foundation and launched the 1960's Sexual Revolution. Fifty years later new revelations confirm Dr. Judith's Reisman's 1981 expose of scientific fraud and criminally derived data contained in the publicly funded Kinsey Reports. Dr. Reisman's revealed that Kinsey conducted human experiments in a soundproof laboratory built to his specifications at Indiana University, and that the sexual abuse of at least 317 infants and young boys was scientific protocol for Kinsey's 1948 report. Dr. Reisman discloses for the first time the ongoing consequences to the American people and the world based on Kinsey's deliberately skewed research."

http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/2005/08/kinsey_crimes_c_1.html

A malefic aspect of our social-engineering, an overall Rockefeller pushed 'policy agenda' based upon junk-science [Kinsey’s Sexual Behavior in the Human Male]: The elite push this "gay" lifestyle/social-engineering, for it is applied eugenics, generally a reduce lifespan , don't have children and easier to control.
 
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