Why it's ok to vote for Johnson / Weld:

Matt Collins

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Voting for Johnson/Weld is not about agreeing with their history and position statements as much as it is about giving the one-finger salute to the establishment of either major party.

I wouldn't vote for Weld in a Republican primary. But I don't have a problem voting for him in the general this year as an LP candidate because the message it sends is that the two-party structure is not quite as strong as they want everyone to believe.
 
Thanks for giving permission. :rolleyes: That's exactly what those of us who are voting for him are trying to tell you (in spite of Weld's past with the CFR...want to get that in before LE trips over something and hurts herself.) Giving a finger to the establishment is what I'm all about, which is why I may never again vote in a Republican primary.
 
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Voting for Johnson/Weld is not about agreeing with their history and position statements...

It should be. Especially if we understand that the establishment isn't relegated to political parties.

Who exactly would you define as the true establishment, Matt?
 
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Voting for Johnson/Weld is not about agreeing with their history and position statements as much as it is about giving the one-finger salute to the establishment of either major party.

I wouldn't vote for Weld in a Republican primary. But I don't have a problem voting for him in the general this year as an LP candidate because the message it sends is that the two-party structure is not quite as strong as they want everyone to believe.

Voting for Johnson/Weld is giving a thumbs up to the LP leadership that believes the more you compromise the higher you will poll. A lot of people are just voting for them because they like the name of the party. If they do get more than one percent they will be onetime anti Clinton and Trump votes. But the LP will insist Johnson converted tons to libertarianism.
 
I'd rather send a message to the libertarian party to stop nominating horrible candidates. If Johnson gets a significant vote share, he'll be nominated again in 2020...
 
I'd rather send a message to the libertarian party to stop nominating horrible candidates. If Johnson gets a significant vote share, he'll be nominated again in 2020...

I assure you he won't get a 3rd shot. There was quite a large group at the Convention that made that very clear.
 
Johnson is a jerk. If his behavior toward fellow candidates is any indication, he is the last person I want in the White House. Ron Paul says our foreign policy is based on a compelling diplomacy. Scorning a gift shows me he has an ungraciousness worse than Obama's, and he would be horrible toward people we want as friends. Johnson gave the finger to his own party in that gesture. What a disgrace.

NASCAR drive Kyle Busch did that to a trophy once. It was a stupid thing to do, and his reputation never recovered from it.
 
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what about that Constitution party guy? he sounds interesting...

He is a quality man. He has a very good reputation in Tennessee. I have heard him speak and I like him. Ballot access will be the big deal for them. At the moment, they are not on the ballot in all 50 states.
 
He is a quality man. He has a very good reputation in Tennessee. I have heard him speak and I like him. Ballot access will be the big deal for them. At the moment, they are not on the ballot in all 50 states.

Neither are the Libertarians.
 
I like Gary Johnson because I think he's a decent candidate. I have more I can agree with him on then any other candidate.
 
Voting for Johnson/Weld is not about agreeing with their history and position statements as much as it is about giving the one-finger salute to the establishment of either major party.

I wouldn't vote for Weld in a Republican primary. But I don't have a problem voting for him in the general this year as an LP candidate because the message it sends is that the two-party structure is not quite as strong as they want everyone to believe.

Might as well vote Vermin Supreme then.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the two-party structure thrives on "a vote against" someone/something "strategy".

The two-party system is already sending a loud and clear message about the strength of said system, so let them crash and burn on their own without distracting from the simple, strong, N.A.P. core message. We've got Republicans and msm for that mixed message, party vs party, there's truth in there somewhere-emotional stuff.

We do not hire for our CPA business by comparing the new prospects to the employees we have let go, we hire for our business by seeing how well the new prospect grasps our mission statement, and, their ability to carry out their specific duties in executing the mission statement.

This isn't Johnson/Weld, it's more like JB Weld. Great, easy, stuff in a pinch, but not what my rights can depend on day in and day out.

Resist as you can, but first do no harm.
 
A man who has been elected to stand for office or who represents a group should never be petty. Personal convictions are one thing, but scorning a gift or person is wholly unacceptable conduct.
 
Johnson is a good guy. I agree with him more than the major party candidates. I don't agree with him on everything. If the impossible happened and he won, he would be a good president. That's enough for me. I don't need anyone's permission or have to justify my choice. I could care less than he threw a toy gun out.
 
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