Why is this forum not on fire??

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I knew it was over when fucking Frank Luntz appeared as part of the post-debate crap. A bunch of actors in a room giving false opinions

 

[rich34]

What, you expected Rand to be treated differently by Fox News than Ron was?

Not at all but not this damn bad.. What makes it worse is there should be more anger and outrage on this board. I know its active, but its the outrage and people seemingly not up in arms snapping fux news and spreading this info far and wide and hoping maybe some of the younger people will pick the mantel up. Sure we ain't as young but theres much more of us with the potential to reach that much more people, exponential growth!

I'm just doing my part trying to get you guys to send some emails and post some videos on pro liberty forums hoping to spread a wild fire!

 

[eleganz]

Not at all but not this damn bad.. What makes it worse is there should be more anger and outrage on this board. I know its active, but its the outrage and people seemingly not up in arms snapping fux news and spreading this info far and wide and hoping maybe some of the younger people will pick the mantel up. Sure we ain't as young but theres much more of us with the potential to reach that much more people, exponential growth!

I'm just doing my part trying to get you guys to send some emails and post some videos on pro liberty forums hoping to spread a wild fire!

I don't know, Im not pissed about Rands time, even though he got the lowest amount of time allotted but he controlled himself by giving short and concise soundbite answers. He chose to stop before the bell (at times).

The one that got robbed the most was Walker, he is 3rd in polling but came in 9th in speaking time just under 50 seconds more than Rand.

 

[rich34]

I knew it was over when fucking Frank Luntz appeared as part of the post-debate crap. A bunch of actors in a room giving false opinions

Exactly brotha! We ain't gotta hit the streets but at least share this information far and wide so more young people can get fired up! Imagine if Rand can maintain all of Ron's supporters while bringing in a new group of fired up young people? If anything this is what those of us that are older could be doing getting a whole new generation fired up and hitting the streets like was done with Ron. In fact I'm going to hit up Alex Jones asking him to fire up his listeners. We need them all right now!

 

[rich34]

I don't know, Im not pissed about Rands time, even though he got the lowest amount of time allotted but he controlled himself by giving short and concise soundbite answers. He chose to stop before the bell (at times).

The one that got robbed the most was Walker, he is 3rd in polling but came in 9th in speaking time just under 50 seconds more than Rand.

He got more questions asked and if Rand didn't assert himself as much as he did it would have been much worse.

 

[adam220891]

I'm pissed and just bought my yard signs.

This is the Rand we've needed all along. I think some folks tuned out due to his desire to walk the party lines delicately the past few months.

 

[AuH20]

He did Ok. Some peaks and some valleys. Seemed better as he relaxed.

 

[Nolan]

The fire's gone. The liberty movement is worn out. Everyone's got their own things to do now. It just not worth wasting time on politics anymore.

 

[CPUd]

Exactly brotha! We ain't gotta hit the streets but at least share this information far and wide so more young people can get fired up! Imagine if Rand can maintain all of Ron's supporters while bringing in a new group of fired up young people? If anything this is what those of us that are older could be doing getting a whole new generation fired up and hitting the streets like was done with Ron. In fact I'm going to hit up Alex Jones asking him to fire up his listeners. We need them all right now!

Young people don't watch FOX News, they are on social media for the very specific reason that they understand TV news outlets are more entertainment than not.

 

[William R]

Not his best debate. Did great on 4th amendment with Christie, but his other answers were too short. He didn't come off as polished or comfortable in his own skin Sorry, but Rand is not going to get the nomination. I think he's the best one of the bunch, I've maxed on the money I can give him in 2015, but where is he after the debate. He should be on all the talk shows?? Why is he ducking Sean Shammity?? Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Scott Walker, Huckster etc etc. But no Rand. Doesn't look like he wants it.

 

[adam220891]

Not his best debate. Did great on 4th amendment with Christie, but his other answers were too short. He didn't come off as polished or comfortable in his own skin Sorry, but Rand is not going to get the nomination. I think he's the best one of the bunch, I've maxed on the money I can give him in 2015, but where is he after the debate. He should be on all the talk shows?? Why is he ducking Sean Shammity?? Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Scott Walker, Huckster etc etc. But no Rand. Doesn't look like he wants it.

I'd guess they don't want him on their shows.

 

[Carlybee]

I was glad to see Rand fired up but his voice gets shrill. I'm not sure it was good strategy to attack Trump but was glad to see him stick it to Christie. Not sure he should've smirked and rolled his eyes when Christie was pontificating about 9/11. The moderators are jokes. I think Trump actually rendered Chris Wallace speechless at one point..which was funny. Bush...no conservative and surprisingly unpolished performance. I like Ben Carson but not dynamic. Walker boring. Rubio too rehearsed. Overall I think it was a train wreck. I almost felt like I was watching a reality show. I knew they were going to try to marginalize and pigeonhole Rand. By the tone of the questions it's pretty obvious the GOP is horrified that the anointed one...Bush...is having to take a backseat to Trump and of course Rand doesn't war hard enough.

The GOP sucks and so does Fox.

 

[CPUd]

Rand is doing media. You can hear him in the background:
https://www.facebook.com/RandPaul/videos/10153258119276107/

 

[rich34]

I posted this in Rand's forum but am posting it here as well, someone needs to say it.

How in the world can some of you guys be down on Rand? Question per question he won this debate hands down, but when you only get one questioned asked to you directly in the first hour and 20 mintues how can you expect him or anyone to do any better?? This debate was a travesty! Rand did great for the questions he was asked, but one flipping question in an hour and 20 minutes is beyond rediculous. He got passed over more than any other candidate. I'm I the only one that saw this?? If this happened to Ron as it did, this forum would be on FIRE as it should be right now! I'm fuming and oh fox news just covered the Rand vs Christie fight and Brent whatever his name is litterally said Christie won that exchange and not only that "I believe he seriously hurt Rand Paul" thus setting the stage to replace Rand with that Carly lady in the next debate... This is BS, this forum should be on FIRE! The only good that can come out of this is hopefully it causes all those that have been on the fence about Rand to jump in full bore!! Not only that but all his supporters in general should all be just as ready to go to bat as they did Ron. Damn I'm pissed with fox news and their manipulating ways! This proves Rand is the real threat just as Ron was even right down to their current post debate coverage of how Rand has been hurt by the Christie exchange. Other than Rand being covered negatively its obvious theyre going harder after Trump, but these two are the only ones according to fux news that got hurt by this debate. BS come on people stand up!!
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Oh and Kruthammer just said Christie was a "winner" tonight based on him getting the best of Rand Paul! The negative spin Rand getting is just as bad as Ron recieved... And now the fuck you Frank Luntz focus group is literally pumping Cruz and Huckabee lol. This shit is so scripted and controlled it's not even funny any more. According to them Rand was hurt in this debate.. Just watch they're going to roll out some fake manipulated polls to push Rand down even farther, they're going to try and push him out of the top ten.

Just now now repeating that Christie got the better of Rand and Megan Kellyssid yeah but what about his line saying you were hugging Obama, "oh but Christie had a good comeback for that saying I was hugging the folks on him911" LMAO Are you serious? If this was Ron this forum would be pissed and on fire! Come on people let em have it!

And still no interview of Rand on fux news, hell even Ron got interviewed by Hannity after the debates Rand Ian't even getting that. I know many are tired but there is more of us now and some emails to fux news and posting some sound bytes on liberty forums could go a long way and get a whole new generation of going people fired up hitting the streets! It makes sense now why they didn't starts the debates earlier like the last two times because it would allow moments like these would spread far and wide getting young people fired up and hitting the streets. Come on guys email fux news intelligently and spread this far and wide and let the young people take this over!

 

[jj-]

Not his best debate. Did great on 4th amendment with Christie, but his other answers were too short. He didn't come off as polished or comfortable in his own skin Sorry, but Rand is not going to get the nomination. I think he's the best one of the bunch, I've maxed on the money I can give him in 2015, but where is he after the debate. He should be on all the talk shows?? Why is he ducking Sean Shammity?? Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Scott Walker, Huckster etc etc. But no Rand. Doesn't look like he wants it.

Possibly, but this is just the first debate.

 

[bunklocoempire]

I am mad, but they did it to Ron Paul over and over and over and nothing ever happens. No voter seems to care, they are all sheep, they lap it up like kittens to warm milk. I honestly don't get how dumb people can be. I will watch Fox say "x, y, or z" and then I start hearing friends, family, and church members repeat it like gospel. Every time, and no matter what I do to try and change their opinion it never works and they don't listen to me. I live in the walking dead surrounded by zombies. I watch these people say how democrats/Obama is destroying this country, and then they help throw gas on the fire by choosing these horrible candidates.

Gobbling up fear and false pride are very tempting routes to take and we get bombarded with it 24-7. Self examination and admitting when one is wrong has never been man's strong point. It's unnatural.

 

[William R]

Ron always won the online after debate polls because he had all the youngsters voting for him. Rand can't even beat the charlatan Ted Cruz on the after debate Drudge poll.

Don't mean to be a skunk at the party, but I call em like I see em

 

[jj-]

Ron always won the online after debate polls because he had all the youngsters voting for him. Rand can't even beat the charlatan Ted Cruz on the after debate Drudge poll.

Don't mean to be a skunk at the party, but I call em like I see em

Note that Cruz has fanatics at the Right Scoop, free republic, and hot air. They spam polls too.

 

[RonPaul4Prez2012]

The fire's gone. The liberty movement is worn out. Everyone's got their own things to do now. It just not worth wasting time on politics anymore.

True, and the other problem is that almost every issue that fox brought up was a past issue that Ron Paul raised in the last election cycles. The GOP is trying to steal the libertarian thunder. Its sucking the air out of the room, especially with that ass Donald Trump in the mix.

Rand has to find new issues to marginalize himself away from the pack of copy cats.

 

[eleganz]

He should be on all the talk shows?? Why is he ducking Sean Shammity?? Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Scott Walker, Huckster etc etc. But no Rand. Doesn't look like he wants it.

Rand appeared on FOX the most out of all GOP candidates this year, what more do you want? When is the last time Rand ducked Hannity? He's on Hannity's show all the time.