Why is everyone acting like we lost already?

[Brown Sapper]

All I see this morning are threads about how we should run third party and how its almost over. It's not, the three biggest states haven't even voted yet. Stop looking at the poll numbers, they always shoot up right before the primaries. Don't listen to the media, they already chose their candidate well before this election even started. DONATE, don't wait for moneybombs or the next new fad. We need money to get good coverage in NY, TX and CA and the whole premise of the moneybomb was to get coverage which isn't working anymore. If there is one thing I was taught in the army is never accept defeat and this is no different. There is still time to be the new "flavor of the month," especially since Santorum is wounded right. Grab your nutsack, man up, and be about it.

 

[Origanalist]

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I couldn't agree more

 

[ShibbitySparks]

Completely agree

 

[Titus]

+rep We have a hard battle but not one that is impossible.

 

[teacherone]

lol

 

[nobody's_hero]

I don't think we can lose.

We might lose on paper, but not on principle.

 

[PolicyReader]

Short answer, people (even many here) still value MSM narrative over the hard count. Usually siting "momentum" as the all important factor. But we've known from before this race started that the media "momentum" would be turned against us throughout this race.. is it really that we had so many people here who thought the media would suddenly become fair rather than continue their active lies?

I'll say it again, the "this is over Romney wins" narrative is expected indeed they've been pushing it in one form or another since before this race even started

So, to those who are stuck on "this race is over" I say this

 

[CowTown]

Amen

 

[GreenBulldog]

Lost what? The presidential election? It's a long shot, but not lost.

I'd say we already won.

"May future generation look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the establishment, and saved their country."

-Ron Paul

That is why we already won. Our time will come after the great default if Dr. Paul doesn't become President Paul.

 

[bpitas]

I don't mind giving more money, but I would really like to see the campaign change the way they are spending it. At this point there should be no question about "electability", there should be a commercial out there talking about his 12 terms in the house, and the fact that the polls say he does as well as Romney against Obama. Maybe something talking about the high percentages of Independent voters he gets.
And there shouldn't be a question about his foreign policy, there should be a(nother) video showing the Veterans for Ron Paul march on the whitehouse.
I'm definitely not giving up and I'm looking to be a delegate, so I'm doing my part, but the campaign absolutely NEEDS to figure out how to reach more people. The grass roots is busting a$$ and the campaign needs to hold up their side of the bargain. Momentum IS an issue, and ours has been going steadily down because we're not pushing back on the MSM enough. When the MSM asks Dr. Paul why he's still in the race, why is he falling into their trap and answering what they asked instead of talking about the fact that he polls better against Obama than the other candidates? He's getting opportunities to talk on national TV, but he's wasting them by answering the stupid questions they ask him instead of using the opportunity to get HIS point across. The campaign really needs to step up - it's getting hard to justify giving them more money.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Because we have. It's not impossible, but I'd say very unlikely, that Paul will receive the majority of the votes from the remaining contests. Hope is what Obama's minions operate on, I like to stick with reality.

 

[iamjohngalt2012]

There is "reality" and then there is REALITY. The perception of what is going on is being shaped by a few that control the pipeline of information that goes to the masses. However, just as I had my own awakening and SHUT OFF the TV set a few years ago, so too are many others now. In fact, many more than at that time. We have a short window before they shut us down, but while access to the truth is available, many others will awake. People are getting involved in their local politics. Even those delegates who have proclaimed their allegiance to Romney, etc., can be swayed in the months ahead. Pay no attention to the story that is being spun in the media. They have an agenda. The truth on the ground is that we are winning.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

All I see this morning are threads about how we should run third party and how its almost over. It's not, the three biggest states haven't even voted yet. Stop looking at the poll numbers, they always shoot up right before the primaries. Don't listen to the media, they already chose their candidate well before this election even started. DONATE, don't wait for moneybombs or the next new fad. We need money to get good coverage in NY, TX and CA and the whole premise of the moneybomb was to get coverage which isn't working anymore. If there is one thing I was taught in the army is never accept defeat and this is no different. There is still time to be the new "flavor of the month," especially since Santorum is wounded right. Grab your nutsack, man up, and be about it.

Damn straight. Half the members here are cowardly establishment wannabes, trolls or plants.

STOP WHINING. EITHER HELP WIN OR SIT ON THE SIDELINE AND KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. WE'VE GOT THE BALL ON THEIR 5 YARD LINE. LET'S PUNCH IT IN!

 

[Crystallas]

Who is acting like we lost? Santorum/Romney stans?

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Because we have. It's not impossible, but I'd say very unlikely, that Paul will receive the majority of the votes from the remaining contests. Hope is what Obama's minions operate on, I like to stick with reality.

Who is this "we" you speak of, forum plant?

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Ron Paul has won 51 delegates. You need 1,144 to secure the nomination. There are 1,160 delegates remaining.

Why are people acting like Paul won't be the 2012 GOP presidential nominee? Because he would need to get 94.2% of the delegates still out there to win, and everyone knows that ain't happening. Paul is precariously close to being completely eliminated mathematically.

 

[Appalachia]

I have also noticed that there is a negative atmosphere here. Almost at a point that it seems popular to say that Ron Paul isn't going to win.
We are Ron Paul supporters guys... and some of us can't even support our man?
I think we all hoped that the results would be better but you are not helping by being negative here. I'm not saying you have to be optimistic but keep some things to yourself.

 

[ShibbitySparks]

Ron Paul has won 51 delegates. You need 1,144 to secure the nomination. There are 1,160 delegates remaining.

Why are people acting like Paul won't be the 2012 GOP presidential nominee? Because he would need to get 94.2% of the delegates still out there to win, and everyone knows that ain't happening. Paul is precariously close to being completely eliminated mathematically.

You know, I really thought all RP supporters were on the same page about this but I guess not.

1) Ron Paul has won many more than 50 delegates

2) IT WAS NEVER THE PLAN TO GET 1144 DELEGATES ON THE FIRST VOTE


This second point is, I think, what is confusing everyone. People, we were never going to win the nomination outright with bound delegates. The idea has always been to go to Tampa with the largest force possible, including those who are bound for other candidates, force a brokered convention, and then enact a strategy that will convince the other delegates on the floor to switch to Paul.


THIS WE CAN STILL DO AND ARE DOING.

If people actually understood this, I don't think we'd be having all this talk about losing.

 

[kathy88]

Ron Paul has won 51 delegates. You need 1,144 to secure the nomination. There are 1,160 delegates remaining.

Why are people acting like Paul won't be the 2012 GOP presidential nominee? Because he would need to get 94.2% of the delegates still out there to win, and everyone knows that ain't happening. Paul is precariously close to being completely eliminated mathematically.

I'm finding it a bit difficult to understand why a long time forum member/supporter would actually include a link to the NEW YORK TIMES as a true source of delegate count. Seriously? I think Hannity's melting your brain cells.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

There is "reality" and then there is REALITY. The perception of what is going on is being shaped by a few that control the pipeline of information that goes to the masses. However, just as I had my own awakening and SHUT OFF the TV set a few years ago, so too are many others now. In fact, many more than at that time. We have a short window before they shut us down, but while access to the truth is available, many others will awake. People are getting involved in their local politics. Even those delegates who have proclaimed their allegiance to Romney, etc., can be swayed in the months ahead. Pay no attention to the story that is being spun in the media. They have an agenda. The truth on the ground is that we are winning.

I agree that many people are "waking up" right now, but not to the degree that we need. He has fared well in the caucus states, but our percent of the vote of the primary states has been minute. Maybe I'm delusioned by pessimism, but I really believe if any of us want partake in real capitalism and experience real liberty we will need to look at moving to countries outside the US.