Why do the debates begin so late?

[dannno]

If I recall, Ron Paul was debating as far back as May 2007, right?

Why is the first primary debate in August?


http://www.uspresidentialelectionne...dule/2016-republican-primary-debate-schedule/


2015
August 15, 2015 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: Fox News Channel
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Sponsors: Fox News
Candidates: To be determined

September 16, 2015 Reagan Library Republican Debate
Aired On: CNN and Salem Radio
Location: Reagan Library in Simi Valley, CA
Sponsors: Reagan Library Foundation, CNN, Salem Media Group (Press Release)
Moderators: Hugh Hewitt, Jake Tapper
Candidates: To be determined

October, 2015 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: CNBC
Location: Colorado
Sponsors: CNBC (Press Release)
Candidates: To be determined

November, 2015 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: Fox Business Network
Location: Wisconsin
Sponsors: Fox Business Network
Candidates: To be determined

December, 2015 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: CNN
Location: Nevada
Sponsors: CNN, Salem Media Group
Candidates: To be determined

2016

January, 2016 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: Fox News Channel
Location: Iowa
Sponsors: Fox News
Candidates: To be determined

February, 2016 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: ABC
Location: New Hampshire
Sponsors: ABC
Candidates: To be determined

February, 2016 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: CBS
Location: South Carolina
Sponsors: CBS
Candidates: To be determined

February, 2016 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: NBC / Telemundo
Location: Florida
Sponsors: NBC/Telemundo
Candidates: To be determined

March, 2016 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: Fox News Channel
Location: TBD
Sponsors: Fox News
Candidates: To be determined

March, 2016 Republican Primary Debate
Aired On: CNN
Location: TBD
Sponsors: CNN, Salem Media Group
Candidates: To be determined

 

[phill4paul]

RNC new rules.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/rnc-debate-schedule_n_6489772.html

 

[Uriah]

RNC wants a condensed primary season.

 

[Ronin Truth]

So we can be spared more redundant debates and save the money for more expensive TV ads? <gag!>

 

[specsaregood]

If I recall, Ron Paul was debating as far back as May 2007, right?

California Republican debate
May 3, 2007

Republican Debate, South Carolina
May 15, 2007

 

[satchelmcqueen]

imo, its to keep anyone with a grassroots support base from getting to much traction. with only 1 debate a month, that allows the media to really bash guys like rand, then at the same time, push guys like santorum.

remember it only took about 5 days to kill rons huge momentum in dec of 2011 with the media saying that santorum "was surging". if they can kill that kind of momentum in 5 days, just imagine what can happen in a month. thats my thoughts.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I'm gonna SWAG edge-of-your-seat drama for people who believe the theatre that plays out in politics is real

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

No summer audience for ad dollars?

 

[economics102]

imo, its to keep anyone with a grassroots support base from getting to much traction. with only 1 debate a month, that allows the media to really bash guys like rand, then at the same time, push guys like santorum.

remember it only took about 5 days to kill rons huge momentum in dec of 2011 with the media saying that santorum "was surging". if they can kill that kind of momentum in 5 days, just imagine what can happen in a month. thats my thoughts.

Sad but true.

Let's not forget the history, either. The way they knee-capped Ron in Iowa was the combination of pushing Santorum while simultaneously obsessively covering the newsletters scandal -- a decades-old scandal that the media "conveniently" chose to focus on right as Iowa was getting underway.

I've said this before and I'll repeat: we -- whether "we" is the official campaign, or the grassroots -- need to figure out how to fight back against the media, or we will be toast come primary season. We invented the moneybomb to solve the financial blackout of Ron's campaigns. We saw how the media took a wrecking ball to Ron's 2008 campaign, and we failed to stop them from repeating that in 2012. Now is the time to figure something really, really clever out so we're not at their mercy in 2016 and can finally arrive at a President Paul.

 

[A. Havnes]

RNC new rules.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/rnc-debate-schedule_n_6489772.html

I'm still angry over the blow the grassroots took last election cycle due to Romney and his power grab.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

Sad but true.

Let's not forget the history, either. The way they knee-capped Ron in Iowa was the combination of pushing Santorum while simultaneously obsessively covering the newsletters scandal -- a decades-old scandal that the media "conveniently" chose to focus on right as Iowa was getting underway.

I've said this before and I'll repeat: we -- whether "we" is the official campaign, or the grassroots -- need to figure out how to fight back against the media, or we will be toast come primary season. We invented the moneybomb to solve the financial blackout of Ron's campaigns. We saw how the media took a wrecking ball to Ron's 2008 campaign, and we failed to stop them from repeating that in 2012. Now is the time to figure something really, really clever out so we're not at their mercy in 2016 and can finally arrive at a President Paul.

heres one thought that someone mentioned ron should have done in the last 2 elections. immediately after each debate, rand could take the questions he either wasnt allowed to answer, or was shorted on time, and direct people to his website on youtube where he will cover those missed spots. or elaborate more on the ones h needed more time to explain. maybe we could help spread these videos he would do on social media and be his very own news outlet so to speak.

just a thought.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

I'm still angry over the blow the grassroots took last election cycle due to Romney and his power grab.

me too! but the article seems to have been done my an idiot. i dont understand how "less debate" is a good thing. wth is wrong with people?

 

[Uriah]

heres one thought that someone mentioned ron should have done in the last 2 elections. immediately after each debate, rand could take the questions he either wasnt allowed to answer, or was shorted on time, and direct people to his website on youtube where he will cover those missed spots. or elaborate more on the ones h needed more time to explain. maybe we could help spread these videos he would do on social media and be his very own news outlet so to speak.

just a thought.

I like this idea.

 

[francisco]

heres one thought that someone mentioned ron should have done in the last 2 elections. immediately after each debate, rand could take the questions he either wasnt allowed to answer, or was shorted on time, and direct people to his website on youtube where he will cover those missed spots. or elaborate more on the ones h needed more time to explain. maybe we could help spread these videos he would do on social media and be his very own news outlet so to speak.

just a thought.

I think that this is a great idea, but Rand would need to be very careful to not come off as being pouty or butthurt. (Vibes like that would be perceived as "unpresidential" to many potential voters). Rand would need to sell the expanded answers as an effort to make sure everyone knew his full, complete position on every question covered in the debate, even regarding things he wasn't questioned on and only others expressed views on. That is, a rigorous effort to give every voter as complete a picture as possible.

 

[Valli6]

As I recall, at the time, Reince Priebus said fewer debates would mean less ammunition, and time, for the biased media to bash Republicans. …but we all knew it was to create another disadvantage for candidates with the heaviest grass roots support ( in other words, protect establishment candidates from better informed voters)

Sad but true.
Let's not forget the history, either. The way they knee-capped Ron in Iowa was the combination of pushing Santorum while simultaneously obsessively covering the newsletters scandal -- a decades-old scandal that the media "conveniently" chose to focus on right as Iowa was getting underway.

And who can forget the weekend of media RAGE, (from all day Friday, to Monday!) when Jon Huntsman's daughter put up a ridiculous, derogatory video about her father, and hoaxed it up to appear as if it came from Ron Paul's people - while the media played along - IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY!
Most coverage Huntsman received during his entire campaign!

"Racist" anti-Huntsman video, which in truth, was created by his own people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0 update -What?! 'tvrainru' has blocked it?!
Huntsman responds to hurtful video he made about himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxvovjFWAHM
Huntsman says nevermind, let's discuss issues!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kH-WDmyops
Statement from Huntsman spokesman Tim Miller:
"Their latest conspiracy theory is nothing more than an attempt to cover for one of their racist supporters... "
Reworded Huntsman ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftukn5XBZY0

 

[Ronin Truth]

An afternoon nap may allow you to stay up later.

 

[economics102]

And who can forget the weekend of media RAGE, (from all day Friday, to Monday!) when Jon Huntsman's daughter put up a ridiculous, derogatory video about her father, and hoaxed it up to appear as if it came from Ron Paul's people - while the media played along - IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY!
Most coverage Huntsman received during his entire campaign!

Ugh, I forgot all about that!

Yeah, we need to find a way to hit back when the media does crap like this. Remember, we're talking about "low information voters" who are mostly older and still get their news from TV. We need to find the media's achilles heel...

 

[TheTexan]

This is bullshit, how are we supposed to be informed voters if the debates start so late

 

[hells_unicorn]

This is bullshit, how are we supposed to be informed voters if the debates start so late

You're not supposed to be able to inform anybody of anything, that's the whole point. Just as the media is largely set up to keep people stupid. When you look at how small the number of people who have a significant sway in mainstream media and in the upper echelons of the 2 political parties, it is meant to prevent anything legitimate from getting legs.

I still think that Rand can actually pull this out, mostly because he is far better at playing to the theatrical nature of our society. I don't subscribe to the idea that the entire process is controlled in as total and complete of a fashion as the Alex Jones crowd, in large part because that much control wouldn't fly. Granted, Rand winning the presidency alone wouldn't accomplish much, but it would be a much needed boost to the overall effort.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Couldn't you just record them and then watch them at some other time?