Why breaking $12 million now will help us most..

[James R]

You've got to be kidding. You are, right?!?

You're actually asking Trevor to drop everything he's doing, then spend the next 3 days securing all this "evidence" that you require, asking for and gathering a multitude of "permission slips" from all the press people he contacts, which allows him to post their opinions here on the forums, just to prove to you that it's worth your while to donate on the Nov 30th? By the time he does all that, Nov. 30th will be over.

Uh, don't think this movement needs your money that bad.

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It take five seconds to ask the press these questions when you have the press contacts. You say three days. I say a couple hours max.

 

[kotetu]

With 90k+ supporters in the $1-500 range of support, (I may be assuming too much), if they all maxed out, and say, donated $1,800, Ron would raise $162,000,000.

 

[jamesmadison]

30th is a waste of time and quite possibly detrimental.

 

[James R]

30th is a waste of time and quite possibly detrimental.

I don't get how 2 paychecks is enough space between the events. But the 30th crowd seems to think the money is unlimited if you just want it badly enough. So, maybe they are right. The best way to get Ron Paul to $12 million ASAP is to donate immediately, rather than waiting for a money-bomb that potentially waters down Dec 16.

 

[stevedasbach]

Congratulations on posting legitimate evidence that Nov 30th has some purpose, to my shock and amazement. Now seal the deal by getting actual names of reporters who believe it would be huge if Ron Paul hits the $12 million mark on Nov 30th. All you have to do is use your press contacts for opinion and get permission to publish their opinion, then you'll have my support and also several thousand others as well who will see actual evidence that Nov 30th is meaningful. The better your press evidence the more I'll donate on the 30th. I'm challenging you because I like to change my mind about things.

I've seen several press references to the $12 million goal with reporters/pundits indicating that it will be significant if we succeed. The most recent were the Ragin Cagin on Meet the Press and the commentary related to the Bloomberg News interview.

I don't think it matters if we hit in Nov 30th or a few days later. The key is to hit it far enough in advance of Dec 16th that we get two cycles of coverage instead of just one, and so that we can use the first cycle to publicise Dec 16th to a wider audience.

 

[me3]

I don't think it matters if we hit in Nov 30th or a few days later. The key is to hit it far enough in advance of Dec 16th that we get two cycles of coverage instead of just one, and so that we can use the first cycle to publicise Dec 16th to a wider audience.

+1

 

[me3]

I don't get how 2 paychecks is enough space between the events. But the 30th crowd seems to think the money is unlimited if you just want it badly enough. So, maybe they are right. The best way to get Ron Paul to $12 million ASAP is to donate immediately, rather than waiting for a money-bomb that potentially waters down Dec 16.

It's not about the money being unlimited, forgive my language, but it's about all the complainers getting off their butts and promoting TP07 2 x as hard.

You don't have to donate to both, find a proxy donor or two for TP07. Even if they only kick in $25 each. But don't assume it's the same base of people giving both days and it will be divided. A lot of work is going to be done by Trevor, Rob and others (hopefully all of us) to make TP07 a success with 15 straight days of promotion.

 

[SwordOfShannarah]

It take five seconds to ask the press these questions when you have the press contacts. You say three days. I say a couple hours max.

Well anyway- today I spent the morning doing an interview with PBS Now. It was pretty cool. I hope I was ok. It was mostly about Ron Paul and ThisNovember5th.com.

But also I spoke with Politico and told them about RudysReadingList.com and also spoke with NolanChart.com. I'll be contacting more press tomorrow. Hope to get to almost all of them.

Politico really liked RudysReadingList.com and trying to use that to direct traffic to TeaParty07.com. So rather than trying to get permission I'm trying to get publicity!

 

[SwordOfShannarah]

I don't think it matters if we hit in Nov 30th or a few days later. The key is to hit it far enough in advance of Dec 16th that we get two cycles of coverage instead of just one, and so that we can use the first cycle to publicize Dec 16th to a wider audience.

I agree we'll get the publicity even if it's a few days later.. the opportunity lost is the claim that the fund raising drive was responsible. Without that we can't direct traffic to the site and can't then link to TeaParty07.com.. but hey- we'll take the publicity a few days later if we have to.

 

[Edward]

I don't get how 2 paychecks is enough space between the events. But the 30th crowd seems to think the money is unlimited if you just want it badly enough. So, maybe they are right. The best way to get Ron Paul to $12 million ASAP is to donate immediately, rather than waiting for a money-bomb that potentially waters down Dec 16.

I would consider myself part of the "November 30th crowd". I think it is a mistake to think of fundraising in terms of a finite amount of money that can be pooled from a finite base of supporters. Those of us who run our own businesses understand that sometimes we need to spend money to make money. The relevant example here is that we invest in advertising to bring in new customers. What I've been arguing for a couple weeks now is that the original money bomb concept (i.e. to raise $1 million in an hour by getting 40,000 people to each contribute $25) would be a fantastic investment to garner publicity for the campaign and the grassroots effort prior to December 16th. I am happy to see that a new project to get to $12 million prior to the end of the quarter is underway. Far from diluting whatever the final total may be, I believe the publicity from this would generate more awareness, more potential contributors, and even MORE money for the Tea Party.

Regarding "Rudy's Reading List": Great name! Whomever decided to throw down the gauntlet with a challenge to Rudy deserves mucho kudos!

 

[ProBlue33]

Nov30 not being watched

There is huge betting action going for Dec16, and nothing for Nov30th.
Nov30 is all gravy, the expectations are on the tea party, remember that.
If we get to 10 million that day I will be happy, maybe another million by the
16th then 7 million at the tea party for 18 million

 

[Original_Intent]

I agree we'll get the publicity even if it's a few days later.. the opportunity lost is the claim that the fund raising drive was responsible. Without that we can't direct traffic to the site and can't then link to TeaParty07.com.. but hey- we'll take the publicity a few days later if we have to.

Here is an idea of how to get that publicity for the fundraiser that you can then redirect to TeaParty.

Instead of the goal being to break the $12 million how about we try to raise $1 million in an hour on the 30th and bill it as a "server stress test" for the TeaParty.

This is not my idea it was posted in another thread, but it is something for the 30th that even I could get behind. If we selected an hour to do a precison strike of a million in an hour, first I am sure that would be a record unto itself, 2nd it would give the campaing this funds injection I keep hearing they need, and third it inherently points to the kind of success we are EXPECTING for the TeaParty. Not that we would change the TeaParty goal to $24 million, that's just crazy talk but it would tip the media of how much peak activity we expect and would, I think, be a great way to get the 30th a good chunk of change and promote TeaParty at the same time.

I propose high noon to 1 p.m. Eastern for the "laser guided" bomb.

 

[Michigan11]

One Million in an hour..Great Idea!

I'm new to this forum, but I am very involved on the ground and with donations, and I like this idea!

It's different, it could galvanize everyone to join in on that one hour... the anticipation of 12:00 noon on the 30th. (lunch time for those who would be working, I presume)

Yeah, I've already signed up for the 30th and the Tea Party!

 

[James R]

I think it is a mistake to think of fundraising in terms of a finite amount of money that can be pooled from a finite base of supporters.

If this were true then why is TeaParty07 flat-lining the the low-20,000's? Based on the premise that a major media event can double our support in a couple weeks, we should have at least 35,000 people signed up by now for TeaParty07. If there were 35,000 people signed right now up for TeaParty07, then I'd believe you. We don't, so I don't believe you.

 

[Edward]

If this were true then why is TeaParty07 flat-lining the the low-20,000's? Based on the premise that a major media event can double our support in a couple weeks, we should have at least 35,000 people signed up by now for TeaParty07. If there were 35,000 people signed right now up for TeaParty07, then I'd believe you. We don't, so I don't believe you.

The point is that a successful project on November 30th (e.g. reaching $12 million or raising $1 million in one hour) would create publicity for the Tea Party. The fact that the number of pledges has flat-lined is evidence that publicity is needed.

 

[austin356]

If this were true then why is TeaParty07 flat-lining the the low-20,000's? Based on the premise that a major media event can double our support in a couple weeks, we should have at least 35,000 people signed up by now for TeaParty07. If there were 35,000 people signed right now up for TeaParty07, then I'd believe you. We don't, so I don't believe you.

Many people are holding out cause of the email situation.

 

[me3]

If this were true then why is TeaParty07 flat-lining the the low-20,000's?

It's almost 3 weeks away, and more people are complaining about Rudy's Reading List than they are promoting Tea Party. That's my guess.

Based on the premise that a major media event can double our support in a couple weeks, we should have at least 35,000 people signed up by now for TeaParty07. If there were 35,000 people signed right now up for TeaParty07, then I'd believe you. We don't, so I don't believe you.

You can apply whatever projection math and logic you want, it's time to go to work!

 

[tsetsefly]

Just donate on both dates, split it or just send in 20 on the 30th, but I do see the importance of the 30th, the campaign needs more funds for the early primary states, and I do agree that reaching 12 million on the 30th would create great media exposure...

 

[SwordOfShannarah]

If this were true then why is TeaParty07 flat-lining the the low-20,000's? Based on the premise that a major media event can double our support in a couple weeks, we should have at least 35,000 people signed up by now for TeaParty07. If there were 35,000 people signed right now up for TeaParty07, then I'd believe you. We don't, so I don't believe you.

Actually this logic isn't correct according to past numbers. We raised $4.3 million with 18,000 pledges. Also I suspect people are going to donate on the 30th but don't want to commit to $100. So they don't sign up - but will donate some amount under $100.

 

[Midnight77]

If we can make the 30th even half as successful as the 5th, then we can chalk this up as a win. But this is questionable. We must rally behind this to increase our donor base and get the media coverage now.

This should be viewed as an investment into the 16th and getting new donors.