Why aren't we all members of the Free State Project?

[FTL_Ian]

Yes, by your logic, hallways and roads should be private owned too, so stepping one inch out of your house should warrant charging you a toll, right?

So that's really an easy way to solve immigration problems, just let the corporations buy up every last inch of land, roads, swamps and anything in between. Once they own it, they can dump whatever crap they want, toll Americans for trespassing anytime, and welcome bums from 3rd world countries. Who cares if it's bad for business? Who are we to tell them what they can't do?

Yes, everything should be privately owned. Even roads. No, that doesn't mean you'd be tolled. Does your grocery store charge you if you come in to use their bathroom? You seem to be someone who doesn't think the market works. You seem to think that if it weren't for people calling themselves government, that businessmen would be destroying communities. Totally ludicrous. The market provides the products and services we want at prices we're willing to pay, and it's not because of the state.

I think it's enough to point out that you have titled yourself a "genius". Talk about being full of yourself.

NOTHING , AND I MEAN LITERALLY NOTHING in preserving liberty and order in all other parts of our law, so having borders becomes the LAST chip Americans have before unfair competition and unwanted tyranny comes in, HAD YOU AND OTHERS who want open borders done something to get rid of all income taxes, trade laws, wage laws, bureaucratic hurdles, we'd have been BEGGING for more immigrants probably more than they'd want to come here, but the reality doesn't fit your ideal.

"Unfair competition" - so you are a protectionist, too? Figures. You clearly also know nothing about me. I've been active my whole adult life, so you don't tell me what I haven't done. Besides that, they aren't my laws. I didn't write or consent to them. Writing "laws" on paper doesn't do anything to preserve liberty. Peaceful noncooperation does.

Saying immigration is simply freedom of motility is saying drunk driving is the freedom to drink and freedom to drive. Freedom is easy to say.

Moving across imaginary lines doesn't harm anyone and neither does drinking and driving. No victim, no crime.

Sounds like you could use more work understanding liberty. It's all about allowing your neighbor to make his own choices, as long as he doesn't harm you or your property.

If you refuse to allow your neighbors to be free, you will also never be free.

Hope you enjoy your conflicted life! Please stay out of NH until you understand the art of allowing.

 

[RevolutionSD]

Yes, everything should be privately owned. Even roads. No, that doesn't mean you'd be tolled. Does your grocery store charge you if you come in to use their bathroom? You seem to be someone who doesn't think the market works. You seem to think that if it weren't for people calling themselves government, that businessmen would be destroying communities. Totally ludicrous. The market provides the products and services we want at prices we're willing to pay, and it's not because of the state.

I think it's enough to point out that you have titled yourself a "genius". Talk about being full of yourself.




"Unfair competition" - so you are a protectionist, too? Figures. You clearly also know nothing about me. I've been active my whole adult life, so you don't tell me what I haven't done. Besides that, they aren't my laws. I didn't write or consent to them. Writing "laws" on paper doesn't do anything to preserve liberty. Peaceful noncooperation does.



Moving across imaginary lines doesn't harm anyone and neither does drinking and driving. No victim, no crime.

Sounds like you could use more work understanding liberty. It's all about allowing your neighbor to make his own choices, as long as he doesn't harm you or your property.

If you refuse to allow your neighbors to be free, you will also never be free.

Hope you enjoy your conflicted life! Please stay out of NH until you understand the art of allowing.

Go Ian!
Statists are pretty tough to win over, eh?

 

[Josh_LA]

"Unfair competition" - so you are a protectionist, too? Figures. You clearly also know nothing about me. I've been active my whole adult life, so you don't tell me what I haven't done. Besides that, they aren't my laws. I didn't write or consent to them. Writing "laws" on paper doesn't do anything to preserve liberty. Peaceful noncooperation does.

Moving across imaginary lines doesn't harm anyone and neither does drinking and driving. No victim, no crime.

Sounds like you could use more work understanding liberty. It's all about allowing your neighbor to make his own choices, as long as he doesn't harm you or your property.

If you refuse to allow your neighbors to be free, you will also never be free.

Hope you enjoy your conflicted life! Please stay out of NH until you understand the art of allowing.

Yes, many grocery stores ask that you can only use their bathroom if you purchase something, and the law readily defends that. No I don't believe businessmen all destroy communities.

No I am not a protectionist, I am only one until because people who live here ARE FORCED to be protected, I'm all for getting rid of protections so we CAN have fair competition (which is basically just competition).

You've been active your whole life? Not enough that I've seen you anywhere in news stories, all I know is you've moved to NH, which I will applaud you for. You sit back and home saying you won't ever use force as a means to acheive liberty, all I can say is GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. Imagine if our founding fathers took that as a virtue, not using force to achieve what we have today.

OK, LET'S SEE YOU CHALLENGE SOME LAWS, IF YOU'RE SO READY TO SAY IT.
Let's see you challenge FCC by cussing on your radio show.
Let's see you drink and drive, let's see what you say when you're pulled over, tell the police they have no right to stop you (run them over since they're standing in your way of freedom)

Yes, I certainly CAN use some more work understanding liberty, and I am certainly open to being wrong. However, I live what I believe and I do everything in my power to act on it.

I don't need you to remind me to stay out of NH, the first state who elected John McCain in primaries.

"Writing "laws" on paper doesn't do anything to preserve liberty. Peaceful noncooperation does.
Or, peaceful cooperation can enforce, or reinforce orders that societies have held for a long time. Until I see you challenge some law, be willing to fight in court or go to prison, YOU ARE THE ONE LIVING THE CONFLICTING LIFE. You're only willing to say you don't agree with laws but you abide by them anyway. I however, disagree with laws but recognize them as existing.

 

[Josh_LA]

"Morals" are imagined, so are "communities."

Srsly though, your entire argument (particularly trying to tie murder in w/ whether or not communities are imagined) is retarded, and i'm too worn out right now to care to discuss the issue w/ you any further.

Retarded based on who's standards?

Who are you to say communities are imagined? Just because somebody wrote a book about it?

You can't tell me the difference between why morals are any more unimagined than communities. They both serve good and bad purposes and are only as good as people uphold them, so what's the difference?

 

[jcarcinogen]

I may go, but since most tech jobs are taken I'll have to think about the other jobs there.... wait what jobs are there? I'll be a janitor if I can make a difference. (just not bathrooms, I can vacuum)

 

[Josh_LA]

Yes, everything should be privately owned. Even roads.

ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS:

Don't live a day to when it's legal for me to buy the road in front of your house. Because when I can afford to, I promise I will have guns in front of your house to shoot any person that walks out (all in the name of trespassing on private property, doesn't do me any good, but why not?). I promise I'll tear out the power lines and communication lines, you better be self sufficient like Ed Brown (just imagine how much easier it would be to ambush him if his surroundings were privately owned).

Oh yes, you're going to say, the minute you hear I buy the road you'll move out ? Just don't let anybody know where you live, because I promise I'll find somebody I know who will buy up the road in front of you, start racing with me to make sure you'll be richer than I am, so you can buy up more roads before I do. But you can't ever buy up the whole country, so you'll ALWAYS have a border.

 

[mport1]

Great answers from Ian like usual.

 

[Josh_LA]

I may go, but since most tech jobs are taken I'll have to think about the other jobs there.... wait what jobs are there? I'll be a janitor if I can make a difference. (just not bathrooms, I can vacuum)

oh how sad, a state so free people still have to worry about jobs before they move there.

 

[Josh_LA]

Great answers from Ian like usual.

talk is cheap, if you actually believe that laws don't apply to you, let's see you challenge some like Irwin Schiff or Ed Brown.

 

[jcarcinogen]

The license plates kick ass.

 

[mport1]

talk is cheap, if you actually believe that laws don't apply to you, let's see you challenge some like Irwin Schiff or Ed Brown.

I don't particularly want to be killed at this point. Unfortunately the people calling themselves government put us in a tough situation. Standing up against them will lead men with guns to try to place us in a jail cell, and if we resist this, we will be murdered.

 

[Josh_LA]

I don't particularly want to be killed at this point. Unfortunately the people calling themselves government put us in a tough situation. Standing up against them will lead men with guns to try to place us in a jail cell, and if we resist this, we will be murdered.

Ok, as long as you admit that.

That you hate the law but you're afraid of losing your life and until you can change that you might just have to live with the law, because might makes right.

That's all I was going after.

 

[constituent]

They both serve good and bad purposes and are only as good as people uphold them, so what's the difference?

Yea, you're right dr. Seuss. Morals and communities are the same thing

 

[constituent]

talk is cheap

Says the guy on the internet.

if you actually believe that laws don't apply to you, let's see you challenge some like Irwin Schiff or Ed Brown.

Ed Brown, lol.

 

[FTL_Ian]

You've been active your whole life? Not enough that I've seen you anywhere in news stories, all I know is you've moved to NH, which I will applaud you for.

This is because political change is ineffective. That said, my picture has been in the Sarasota Herald Tribune and the Keene Sentinel. How many articles have been written about your efforts?

OK, LET'S SEE YOU CHALLENGE SOME LAWS, IF YOU'RE SO READY TO SAY IT.

Way ahead of you: http://freekeene.com/2008/08/26/the-couch-enforcer/

See, people that move to NH are the doers, and the people who have excuses are just talkers.

You're only willing to say you don't agree with laws but you abide by them anyway.

You're just talking out your ass, as I've clearly proven you are clueless about me, so you should stop now before more readers think you a braying fool.

 

[porcupine]

talk is cheap, if you actually believe that laws don't apply to you, let's see you challenge some like Irwin Schiff or Ed Brown.

That logic is just like a robber with a gun to your head saying "if you really have a right to keep your money, let's see you fight me for it."

 

[mport1]

That logic is just like a robber with a gun to your head saying "if you really have a right to keep your money, let's see you fight me for it."

Precisely. It would be great if standing up to the government was relatively safe, but they are a violent gang so there are very large consequences. They are clearly in the wrong and have no legitimate authority, but they have all the power behind them at this point.

 

[Josh_LA]

Says the guy on the internet.



Ed Brown, lol.

Yes, says the guy on the internet, you're not one?

I'm just saying I don't talk what I don't practice, when I say I don't agree with a law, I at least admit I'm afraid to challenge it for fear of being arrested. How's you or Ian any better?

Whats to laugh about Ed Brown?

 

[Josh_LA]

Precisely. It would be great if standing up to the government was relatively safe, but they are a violent gang so there are very large consequences. They are clearly in the wrong and have no legitimate authority, but they have all the power behind them at this point.

Yes, precisely. So you're admitting the obvious, MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.

Who cares about legitmate authority when your life is on the line?

 

[Josh_LA]

This is because political change is ineffective. That said, my picture has been in the Sarasota Herald Tribune and the Keene Sentinel. How many articles have been written about your efforts?



Way ahead of you: http://freekeene.com/2008/08/26/the-couch-enforcer/

See, people that move to NH are the doers, and the people who have excuses are just talkers.



You're just talking out your ass, as I've clearly proven you are clueless about me, so you should stop now before more readers think you a braying fool.

I don't care what readers think of me as, I am what I am, do I need somebody to validate my status?

Ok, so I apologize I haven't paid attention to your local news. But to answer your question, I will say I am sorry that articles and stories written about me & my efforts at State and national levels have not given me credit (nor will I claim it for fear of being arrested or harassed). Sure, you're going to say if I don't tell you, it doesn't exist, fine.

And I will admit that unless you did something that challenges what I mentioned :
Tax laws like Ed Brown, drinking and driving, cussing on your show, something you can get arrested and imprisoned for, you're no better than people who do nothing, other than the fact you're willing to say it.

What makes me different from you? I don't challenge laws just because I disagree with it, I recognize they have power over me even though I hate it. I don't run my mouth saying I don't recognize the law without challenging it or breaking it. That's the difference, if that makes me a statist, have fun with your name calling.