Why are the Bolsheviks pushing for felon's voting restoration?

[TheCount]

LOL
Not wanting people who have criminal tendencies to vote for criminal government doesn't make me a statist.
Wanting them to makes YOU one.

The statist part is where you believe that laws should be respected and obeyed even if they are unjust.

Are those legitimate felonies?

No, they're not. Thank you for pointing that out. There are some crimes which will cause the person to lose their rights and others which do not have the same effect. And the difference between those crimes is

something that is entirely arbitrary.

 

[pcosmar]

Are those legitimate felonies?

Pissing in an alley is... and a sex crime to boot..

I saw a young man go from a year in County for minor burglary,, to life in prison.
Due to the system mostly.



so,, How has Ollie North been as Head of the NRA?

 

[TheCount]

3 There are far more civilians who vote to limit government.

Where do these 'more civilians' come from?

 

[Swordsmyth]

The statist part is where you believe that laws should be respected and obeyed even if they are unjust.

I didn't say that, I said many of the people who broke the law would have broken other laws in pursuit of easy money, I didn't even say all or most of them would.

No, they're not. Thank you for pointing that out. There are some crimes which will cause the person to lose their rights and others which do not have the same effect. And the difference between those crimes is

something that is entirely arbitrary.

No it's not, you have been here long enough to know the difference between crimes with actual victims who are actually harmed and fake crimes.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Where do these 'more civilians' come from?

They are all the people who don't get government money and they outnumber the members of the military.

 

[pcosmar]

[h=1]Isaiah 5:20[/h] “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

Don't Laugh..
And READ THAT AGAIN.

“The Spirit of the Lord is on Me, because He has anointed Me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to release the oppressed,

The Spirit of the Lord GOD is on Me, because the LORD has anointed Me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent Me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and release from darkness to the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the LORD’s favor and the day of our God’s vengeance, to comfort all who mourn,…

You are just pedaling Elitist Garbage..

The same Elitist Garbage that Master Races are made of.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Pissing in an alley is... and a sex crime to boot..

That doesn't sound legitimate to me.
Maybe you are the statist.

I saw a young man go from a year in County for minor burglary,, to life in prison.
Due to the system mostly.

That's terrible, the system should be changed.
I doesn't mean thieves should be allowed to vote though.

so,, How has Ollie North been as Head of the NRA?

Terrible, what has that got to do with anything?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Don't Laugh..
And READ THAT AGAIN.




You are just pedaling Elitist Garbage..

The same Elitist Garbage that Master Races are made of.

That has nothing to do with letting real criminals vote, it is about letting the oppressed and persecuted out of prison, real criminals will be punished by the LORD and they will not be given a say in running government.

Even if you twist the scripture to apply it to real felons it still says nothing about letting them vote so they can use government to steal.

 

[pcosmar]

Terrible, what has that got to do with anything?

Because that Known Criminal is Celebrated..

By Many of the Criminals in Government.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Because that Known Criminal is Celebrated..

By Many of the Criminals in Government.

Why do want to let him vote?

 

[pcosmar]

Why do want to let him vote?

I suspect he has more than one vote..

I thought he should have been immediately dragged from Congress and shot against the nearest wall.

but that is not the righteous world we live in.

 

[TheCount]

I didn't say that

Yes you did. You said that, even if a law was unjust and that an act should not have been illegal, that:

Their attitude towards the law is what matters

You are a statist. This isn't some new revelation, of course; you display your statist tendencies in every post. You believe that blind loyalty to the orders of the state is a virtue and that any deviation from that displays a character flaw, which you describe as

criminal tendencies

Again, you said this in the context of a law which you agreed was unjust and for which there should have been no punishment.

I said many of the people who broke the law would have broken other laws in pursuit of easy money, I didn't even say all or most of them would.

We can also discuss your apparent belief in punishment for crimes which people did not commit but which you believe that would commit given the chance, if you'd like. This is directly what I referred to earlier when I said:

The SS's posts throughout this thread, the above the most egregious example, are the end state of any worldview in which it is believed that a man's nature is somehow innate and unchangeable. Criminals are criminals because they are criminals. They were born to be criminals, and even if they were not jailed for one crime, it is inevitable that they would be jailed for another, because they are criminals.

You pretended to disagree, but every single one of your posts confirms that I am right.

the difference between crimes with actual victims who are actually harmed and fake crimes.

That is not the definition of felony and misdemeanor.

 

[TheCount]

They are all the people who don't get government money and they outnumber the members of the military.

People who don't get government money already outnumber members of the government.

And yet the things that you believe should happen do not happen.

 

[UWDude]

What do the powers that be want in voters? Ignorance. Thus they want as many people voting as possible, as this will increase the number of ignorant voters. Who tends to be ignorant (lack of knowledge about how things work)? Young people. People new to the nation. People who have no interest in politics, economics, cause and effect, liberty, etc., and would not vote unless it is almost forced upon them. Get them to the polls!

They want people who will vote based on the D or R after their names. They want people who vote purely on name recognition. They want people who vote as they are told by the TV or newspaper “voter guides”. They want people who will vote because someone told them they will get something free. They want people who vote because their teachers told them what they should vote for. They want people who will vote for them because they tell them that the other candidate hates them.

It’s not a coincidence that Bernie has so many “young” supporters. They would like to lower the voting age to 12. It’s not because they have worldly experience and wisdom.

Prison news is heavily censored.
Makes them vote slaves.
State controls the information, voter reacts predictably.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes you did. You said that, even if a law was unjust and that an act should not have been illegal, that:

That is not the same thing, their attitude towards the law matters as far as my prediction that many of them would have engaged in other criminal activities, that doesn't mean that unjust laws must be obeyed.

You are a statist. This isn't some new revelation, of course; you display your statist tendencies in every post. You believe that blind loyalty to the orders of the state is a virtue and that any deviation from that displays a character flaw, which you describe as

Again, you said this in the context of a law which you agreed was unjust and for which there should have been no punishment.

That's garbage, the only people I described as having criminal tendencies are those that committed actual crimes like burglary, rape and murder.

We can also discuss your apparent belief in punishment for crimes which people did not commit but which you believe that would commit given the chance, if you'd like. This is directly what I referred to earlier when I said:

More garbage, I have repeatedly said that those convicted of phony crimes should be exonerated and restored to pristine status, I just predicted that many of them would then commit crimes because they wanted easy money and didn't mind breaking the law to get it.

You pretended to disagree, but every single one of your posts confirms that I am right.

LOL

That is not the definition of felony and misdemeanor.

If that is what you want to discuss then it doesn't matter, there are clear logical differences between crimes that should be felonies and crimes that should be misdemeanors and even if some of them are a matter of degree that is somewhat arbitrary it makes no difference, people make judgements on matters of degree all the time and we have to, someone who punches people in the mouth for insulting them is not the same as someone who stabs people with a knife for beating them at a game of cards and it is entirely appropriate for the second man to receive greater punishment including the loss of franchise.

 

[Swordsmyth]

People who don't get government money already outnumber members of the government.

And yet the things that you believe should happen do not happen.

They would happen a lot less if the government workers couldn't vote and if they had not been able to vote all along our culture would not have been perverted to the extent that it has.

Perfection is not possible but we can tilt the odds in favor of liberty.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yah, OK... so this asshole deserves the same say so in how this country is run as I do.

While in prison.

GTFO...

Anybody who thinks that is fucking nuts.

 

[pcosmar]

Yah, OK... so this $#@! deserves the same say so in how this country is run as I do.

While in prison.

GTFO...

Anybody who thinks that is $#@!ing nuts.

Not in favor while in Prison,, for several reasons.

In County waiting Trial,, (innocent till proven)
and After time is served.

It should be automatic,,and is in a few.. It is not in all.. and it should be.

There is more Reform Needed of Both Justice and Prisons systems, and will likely be given nothing but Lip Service.

 

[pcosmar]

Not in favor while in Prison,, for several reasons.

In County waiting Trial,, (innocent till proven)
and After time is served.

It should be automatic,,and is in a few.. It is not in all.. and it should be.

There is more Reform Needed of Both Justice and Prisons systems, and will likely be given nothing but Lip Service.

I want to see profit motive taken from the system,,, and this adds more.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not in favor while in Prison,, for several reasons.

Oh, I know, but that is what Sanders and some of other Bolshevik mob are clamoring for.