Who Are the current Top 5 Senators?


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Ya know. I miss Demint a little. I think I'd prefer him over Cruz. I always felt like Demint was genuine, not corrupt and really cared. I don't trust Cruz as much with regards to his character or intentions. I'd love to see Demint run as Rand's V.P. No one can hate Jim Demint. Even the left will find it hard to villainize this sweet old gentleman in the eyes of the American public. An excellent V.P. I think.
 
Ya know. I miss Demint a little. I think I'd prefer him over Cruz. I always felt like Demint was genuine, not corrupt and really cared. I don't trust Cruz as much with regards to his character or intentions. I'd love to see Demint run as Rand's V.P. No one can hate Jim Demint. Even the left will find it hard to villainize this sweet old gentleman in the eyes of the American public. An excellent V.P. I think.

That would be a great ticket, but DeMint has a lot of influence and power as the President of The Heritage Foundation. Also, on a side note, I don't think the VP has to be a minority or a women for Rand to win. Two white men can still win the general, because by far the majority of the US population is white and will stay that way for a long time.

Also, his VP doesn't necessarily have to be a moderate to win either. Scott Walker could be a strategically good choice and he's by no means a moderate, Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, maybe Nikki Haley, Geraldo Rivera would be fine too. His VP choice has to be articulate, a good debater, and a good public speaker as well. Tim Scott is not, Scott Walker is iffy, idk about Nikki Haley, Geraldo would probably fit those credentials, Ted Cruz definitely does; but he comes off as Joe McCarthey-ish.
 
Also, I think both Tim Scott and Ron Johnson are good enough to at least be separated from the rest of the crowd.
 
Also, I think both Tim Scott and Ron Johnson are good enough to at least be separated from the rest of the crowd.

and no one really knows Cruz's foreign policy, but it's very likely he isn't a neo-con warmonger. So I have no idea why anyone here can make the assumption that the jury is already out him, because not only does anyone really know, but he's also taken good stances before; on Libya and arming rebels in Syria.
 
and no one really knows Cruz's foreign policy, but it's very likely he isn't a neo-con warmonger. So I have no idea why anyone here can make the assumption that the jury is already out him, because not only does anyone really know, but he's also taken good stances before; on Libya and arming rebels in Syria.

Do you have a link where Cruz said that he's opposed to funding the rebels in Syria? I searched for that and couldn't find anything.
 
Lee was easily in my top 2 but his comments about Snowden are disgusting. All the Rand haters need to look at Rand and then the other 99 Senators and realize that Rand may be our best chance that we will see in our lifetime.

Times like this are when we see who is truly on our side and Bernie Sanders might just be my 2nd "favorite" because at least he seems to be truly for the people regardless of what names you may throw his way. This is admirable: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/bernie-sanders-orwellian-future_n_3419173.html

Better a Senate dominated by ACLU-brand populist socialists than anti-liberty Republican weasels. This is the most pressing issue facing our country, not "the economy", which will operate mostly the same way no matter which two partier is in charge. By two partier, I mean your standard RINOs and statist Dems who are almost completely interchangeable. Even quasi-libertarian Republican corporatist Koch-brand statists like Lee and Cruz aren't really going to get us anywhere.

If we further lose our ability to whistleblow and expose government corruption, the very fabric of government will become more poisoned and corrupted that we will long for the Bush/Obama years, and only the elite will benefit on the backs of all the other poor, suffering Americans.
 
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Something about Cruz just doesn't seem genuine. I feel he is an attack dog first and foremost, and only really likes riding on Rand's coattails when it's convenient to fighting Obama and the Dems. I just don't trust the guy as far as I could throw him. Despite that, he still is probably a top 3 Senator just cause the other 47 are so bad.

You mean 97, or did something change that I don't know about?

How awesome would that be if we just lost 50 useless senators? :D With my luck we'd lose the best ones though and keep the worst.
 
You mean 97, or did something change that I don't know about?

How awesome would that be if we just lost 50 useless senators? :D With my luck we'd lose the best ones though and keep the worst.
Well Obama said "all 57 states", so I reserve my right to get my math wrong once in a while ;)
 
Dont be stoooopid.



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1. Paul
2. Lee
3. Cruz
4. Scott
5. Johnson
6. Flake (might go up if he votes the right way next time a military spending bill comes up)
7. Coburn
8. Moran
9. Toomey
10. Risch
11. Crapo
12. McConnell?
 
I honestly think I just about lost all respect for Mike Lee after his stupid comment about Snowden being a traitor. Rand "Withholding judgment" is fine, especially since he seemd to support Snowden, just in a subtle manner. But Lee blatantly just believed what he was told and made a mockery of freedom and decency. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but I think I'm down to one senator that I actually respect. Forget the "Top five."
 
he's pretty much right. Now, I'll grant you that Rand Paul is the best one, but "Top five?" That's just a joke..
Lee was easily in my top 2 but his comments about Snowden are disgusting. All the Rand haters need to look at Rand and then the other 99 Senators and realize that Rand may be our best chance that we will see in our lifetime.

Times like this are when we see who is truly on our side and Bernie Sanders might just be my 2nd "favorite" because at least he seems to be truly for the people regardless of what names you may throw his way. This is admirable: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/bernie-sanders-orwellian-future_n_3419173.html

Better a Senate dominated by ACLU-brand populist socialists than anti-liberty Republican weasels. This is the most pressing issue facing our country, not "the economy", which will operate mostly the same way no matter which two partier is in charge. By two partier, I mean your standard RINOs and statist Dems who are almost completely interchangeable. Even quasi-libertarian Republican corporatist Koch-brand statists like Lee and Cruz aren't really going to get us anywhere.

If we further lose our ability to whistleblow and expose government corruption, the very fabric of government will become more poisoned and corrupted that we will long for the Bush/Obama years, and only the elite will benefit on the backs of all the other poor, suffering Americans.
Yeah, Lee really did lose my respect there. It was just dumb. Like Cruz, when he's right I'll support him on that particular issue, heck, I would work with Dennis Kucinich on Iraq even though I completely disagree with him on most domestic issues. But as far as genuine "liberty candidates" go?
Then again, Lee is never going to be President in a hundred years, so what he says doesn't really matter, only how he votes. So I guess I'm glad he is where he is, even if I basically think he's a moron now.
You mean 97, or did something change that I don't know about?

How awesome would that be if we just lost 50 useless senators? :D With my luck we'd lose the best ones though and keep the worst.

OK, saying "50 best" is just offensive to the human mind...
 
1. Paul
2. Lee
3. Cruz
4. Scott
5. Johnson
6. Flake (might go up if he votes the right way next time a military spending bill comes up)
7. Coburn
8. Moran
9. Toomey
10. Risch
11. Crapo
12. McConnell?

as a PA resident, thats a big fuck no
 
Who are all the names of congressmen who where briefed by Obomba about PRISM. These people need thrown out of office next election !
 
Rand, Lee, and Wyden are my top 3. I'm still not convinced about Cruz. The rest can jump in a lake.

I am with you, here, these are the top 3 (Rand # 1, Lee # 2, Wyden # 3). Rand stands way out far ahead of the others, though.

on a side note, I am from Wisconsin and I heard Ron Johnson backing NSA spying. To me, this is a litmus test issue.
 
I changed my mind though. There's 3 categories to me:
1. Rand Paul
2. Those who sometimes take a courageous stand about something (Wyden, Sanders, Lee, maybe Cruz)
3. The rest are completely useless for liberty issues

I'm sick of comparing voting records and nitpicking about what budgets one person voted for or another. Bernie Sanders has a mind of his own and sometimes is an unabashed advocate of liberty. Yeah he's a socialist but when it came to the NSA situation, who was the strongest? Lee was an enemy. Rand didn't betray us but he sure wasn't strong about it. Give me a Senate of 50 socialists who care about civil liberties and 50 libertarians and that'll be way, way better than 100 "conservatives".
 
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