Who Are the current Top 5 Senators?

Flake and Toomey would be in my top five if it wasn't for their recent support for additional federal gun control laws. That's just a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't include Coburn in my top five for that reason either. Coburn, Flake, and Toomey are all examples of Senators who have gotten worse the longer they've been in Washington DC.

Flake has seriously screwed over his base recently.

Here's what Glenn Beck had to say:
Glenn has long been a fan of Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), but his actions lately have been seriously questionable.

“Let me report on this,” Glenn said. “Jeff Flake is somebody that we’ve been for. Jeff Flake is one of the guys who’s the best on the economy. Jeff Flake is a friend. Jeff Flake is a guy I supported to be the senator. I fought for Jeff, and all of a sudden he is for comprehensive immigration reform. We have him on; he doesn’t make any sense. We’re like, ‘Jeff, you’re misguided. You’re misguided.’”

Now Sen. Flake is not just pro-immigration reform, but it seems as though he is now pro-gun control as well. “Now he has flip flopped on gun control. Now Jeff is suddenly for gun control, and he says he’s doing it because maybe he can get a better deal on the Internet tax, that maybe they won’t pass the Internet tax,” Glenn explained. “If he gives in on guns, then we won’t get the Internet tax. I’ll take the damn Internet tax over you taking my guns.”

Sen. Flake has only been in office some four months, and it looks like he has already compromised on some of his core values. Even Matt Kibbe of Freedom Works, a big fan of Sen. Flake, told Glenn in an email that he is afraid “we have lost Jeff Flake.”

More than anything else, this situation proves just how powerful the Washington machine has become. “Powerful, powerful, powerful people,” Glenn said of those in Washington D.C. “When you can turn a guy like Jeff Flake this quickly – four and a half months, they’re powerful.”

Flake has a few years to improve, and I hope he does. But it's undeniable this was a bad start.
 
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Flake used to be really strong. He was head of the Goldwater Institute. But the last few years in the House he has declined. And shit has hit the fan so far in the Senate.

Reminds me of Dana Rohrabacher. Almost the exact same thing happened with him. He just tapered off.
 
Flake used to be really strong. He was head of the Goldwater Institute. But the last few years in the House he has declined. And shit has hit the fan so far in the Senate.

Reminds me of Dana Rohrabacher. Almost the exact same thing happened with him. He just tapered off.

Flake has always been the same man. He is Mormons first. Always been. He'll he was a libertarian back 2011-2012 until Romney came to town. 11% of our pop is mormons.
 
Cruz is strong on civil liberties as well.

But not on foreign policy.

Rand Paul and Mike Lee need to be watched, the other ninety-eight are just crap and their hypothetical nuremberg trials would be little more than a formality.

Cruz may be the ninety-eighth worst, but I won't say he's the "Third Best" or anything like that. I wouldn't ever vote for Cruz or anyone worse.
 
IMO Wyden is better than Kucinich. Kucinich was a hardline left winger. Wyden is at least a moderate on fiscal issues.

Moderate for the current insanity, youmean?

If I was forced to pick a top 10 I think I would actually have to include Rubio in that, even though I think that Rubio is terrible. That just shows you how terrible the Senate is.

Ugh... Are there really not ten senators who don't believe the US is a battlefield? Man... the senate really does suck.

As I said, Paul and Lee are the only ones I care about, the rest can screw themselves and that's putting it nicely.

1. Lindsey Graham (I was going to be a gentleman and put a woman in the top spot, but then I realized that Lindsey is close enough to one)
2. Dianne Feinstein (there is just something inherently sexy about a geriatric Communist)
3. John McCain ("Nice little war you have going on here. You don't mind if I join in, do you?")
4. Chuck Schumer (pro-war, pro-spending, pro-basically everything that is good and right in the world)
5. Harry Reid (probably the most honest man in Congress)

Too bad old Droopy Dog (Lieberman) left the senate, would've been a solid pick in anyone's top 5.

LOL! I assume you meant "Worse five."
 
Flake and Toomey would be in my top five if it wasn't for their recent support for additional federal gun control laws. That's just a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't include Coburn in my top five for that reason either. Coburn, Flake, and Toomey are all examples of Senators who have gotten worse the longer they've been in Washington DC.

Not to mention the fact that Flake is in that gang of 8 on that horrible immigration legislation. He's on my s*** list now.
 
But not on foreign policy.

Rand Paul and Mike Lee need to be watched, the other ninety-eight are just crap and their hypothetical nuremberg trials would be little more than a formality.

Cruz may be the ninety-eighth worst, but I won't say he's the "Third Best" or anything like that. I wouldn't ever vote for Cruz or anyone worse.

To be honest, Rand and Mike Lee also aren't as good on foreign policy as they are on civil liberties. Both of them take a pretty absolutist position on civil liberties but take a more middle of the road approach on foreign policy issues. Of course Rand's middle of the road foreign policy is still better than the extreme intervention that we've had for the past 50 to 60 years.
 
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To be honest, Rand and Mike Lee also aren't as good on foreign policy as they are on civil liberties. Both of them take a pretty absolutist position on civil liberties but take a more middle of the road approach on foreign policy issues. Of course Rand's middle of the road foreign policy is still better than the extreme intervention that we've had for the past 50 to 60 years.

Rand's middle of the road is mostly political talking points. He would be the last Commander In Chief to send troops into Syria or Libya.
 
He would be the last Commander In Chief to send troops into Syria or Libya.

Yeah, I'm not necessarily talking about that. I was referring more to sanctions, closing down some foreign bases rather than all of them, etc.

But, to be clear I'm still saying that Rand's foreign policy would be a big improvement over what we have, just that he doesn't seem to be as much of an absolutist on foreign policy as he is on civil liberties. His foreign policy is slightly more nuanced.
 
To be honest, Rand and Mike Lee also aren't as good on foreign policy as they are on civil liberties. Both of them take a pretty absolutist position on civil liberties but take a more middle of the road approach on foreign policy issues. Of course Rand's middle of the road foreign policy is still better than the extreme intervention that we've had for the past 50 to 60 years.
Agreed. I don't want to start another Rand Paul fight, but basically, I view Paul and Lee as good, but not great, on those issues.

Cruz wants to bomb Iran though, to my understanding. That's not just a minor mistake, its a serious one.

Rand Paul is tricky as it is. I still sometimes swing back and forth as to how much I can forgive from him. I know he might just be playing the game but if he is, he can win without me....

Right now, I'd be supporting Rand, but you know how many times I've said "This is the last time":p
 
Tim Scott has greatly exceeded expectations. He's right behind Rand, Lee, and Cruz. Of course he nor Cruz have had any overly difficult votes but they're definitely an improvement over their predecessors, especially in the case of Cruz.
 
So far, anyway.

I don't know anything about Scott. I'm glad Cruz is where he is, as far as it goes, but I'd still vote third party for senate if I lived in Texas. Paul and Lee would actually get my vote, for now anyway.
 
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