Bailouts: Where were the "Tea Parties" during the Bush Era?

[Kraig]

I think many of the Tea Partiers (maybe not the majority) will fall asleep if the Republicans get back Congress in 2010 or the White House in 2012.

That is the danger of being hijacked.

 

[MsDoodahs]

'well, sir/madam, they're going to keep doing it wrong until you join me at the county, district and state conventions and you help me make that core goodness spread throughout the party. Because until then, they're going to keep doing what lines their pockets the best and you know it. Now, if you want a real choice come help me work for it!

:d:d:d

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Bailouts: Where were the "Tea Parties" during the Bush Era?

Alright, well, the first step is to bring all the troops home and end the world empire. Let's see how many of these people are on board with that.

FYI...

There are currently 541,000 military troops overseas.

This does not include consultants/embassy/FBI/CIA/DIA/and all the hired guns like Blackwater/KKR/etc.

That's a big Payroll and drain on our piggy banks... then there's garbage like this you don't hear about:

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=52524&archive=true

of course the final tab will be well over $300 million and the almost all of it going to foreign contractors. All this for a frigin mall and hotel on one USAF base.

 

[cryptocode]

Where was I ?

Hi, I'm new here. This is my first post.

I was working and not really paying attention. I've been a loyal Republican all my life, as were my parents.

It wasn't until I retired and had time to unwind, relax, and start reflecting that I realized, among many other things, that on every single platform or principle that was my strongest desire in any election year, the Replublicans had lied. They subsequently took an opposite or ameilorated position.

Then in 2007 I was overcome by a deep interest in economics, from watching the news of the economy. Something very strange was happening that I didn't understand. I bought several books including Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" and started reading. Later, more books and the internet. By this time I'd learned enough to have serious questions about Keynsian MacroEconomics and the Chicago School and started looking for other "Schools". I found mises.org and began reading. They've become my Economics school.

So by 2008 I knew I no longer wanted to support the Republican party. But I would not be disloyal to the person and party I'd voted for. However, as soon as it was over, I changed my registration to Constitution Party.

I've voted in every election, all my life, and will continue to do so. But I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat again. I will vote for any name on any voting ticket that is Constitution, Libertarian, Independent, in that order.

I attended the Tea Party demonstration in our small city and talked with the prople there. There were about 100, and I'd guess 2/3 were from a much larger neighboring city. Of these 100 people 2/3 did not support Ron Paul and were happy with one of the 2 political party machines, they just wanted lower taxes. There were no military. There were 2 retired policemen. The other 1/3 wanted more changes than lower taxes but they weren't sure how much more or what. A few thought the government would somehow attack them for just being there. Of those that had heard of ron Paul, most thought he was too counter-culture.

At the end of the day, I was amazed at how far I'd traveled from the main-stream.

 

[The_Orlonater]

I was around 7-8 years old when the Bush regime began, so I can't protest.

 

[clb09]

Where was I ?
Hi, I'm new here. This is my first post.

I was working and not really paying attention. I've been a loyal Republican all my life, as were my parents.

It wasn't until I retired and had time to unwind, relax, and start reflecting that I realized, among many other things, that on every single platform or principle that was my strongest desire in any election year, the Replublicans had lied. They subsequently took an opposite or ameilorated position.

Then in 2007 I was overcome by a deep interest in economics, from watching the news of the economy. Something very strange was happening that I didn't understand. I bought several books including Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" and started reading. Later, more books and the internet. By this time I'd learned enough to have serious questions about Keynsian MacroEconomics and the Chicago School and started looking for other "Schools". I found mises.org and began reading. They've become my Economics school.

So by 2008 I knew I no longer wanted to support the Republican party. But I would not be disloyal to the person and party I'd voted for. However, as soon as it was over, I changed my registration to Constitution Party.

I've voted in every election, all my life, and will continue to do so. But I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat again. I will vote for any name on any voting ticket that is Constitution, Libertarian, Independent, in that order.

I attended the Tea Party demonstration in our small city and talked with the prople there. There were about 100, and I'd guess 2/3 were from a much larger neighboring city. Of these 100 people 2/3 did not support Ron Paul and were happy with one of the 2 political party machines, they just wanted lower taxes. There were no military. There were 2 retired policemen. The other 1/3 wanted more changes than lower taxes but they weren't sure how much more or what. A few thought the government would somehow attack them for just being there. Of those that had heard of ron Paul, most thought he was too counter-culture.

At the end of the day, I was amazed at how far I'd traveled from the main-stream.

Welcome and nice story!

Have you taken a look at this party:

http://www.populistamerica.com/

I wonder what other RP'ers think of the Populist Party USA?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Welcome aboard, and welcome to the revolution.

I'm sure this will be an eye opener, reading up on things around here.

Enjoy.

Hi, I'm new here. This is my first post.

I was working and not really paying attention. I've been a loyal Republican all my life, as were my parents.

It wasn't until I retired and had time to unwind, relax, and start reflecting that I realized, among many other things, that on every single platform or principle that was my strongest desire in any election year, the Replublicans had lied. They subsequently took an opposite or ameilorated position.

Then in 2007 I was overcome by a deep interest in economics, from watching the news of the economy. Something very strange was happening that I didn't understand. I bought several books including Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" and started reading. Later, more books and the internet. By this time I'd learned enough to have serious questions about Keynsian MacroEconomics and the Chicago School and started looking for other "Schools". I found mises.org and began reading. They've become my Economics school.

So by 2008 I knew I no longer wanted to support the Republican party. But I would not be disloyal to the person and party I'd voted for. However, as soon as it was over, I changed my registration to Constitution Party.

I've voted in every election, all my life, and will continue to do so. But I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat again. I will vote for any name on any voting ticket that is Constitution, Libertarian, Independent, in that order.

I attended the Tea Party demonstration in our small city and talked with the prople there. There were about 100, and I'd guess 2/3 were from a much larger neighboring city. Of these 100 people 2/3 did not support Ron Paul and were happy with one of the 2 political party machines, they just wanted lower taxes. There were no military. There were 2 retired policemen. The other 1/3 wanted more changes than lower taxes but they weren't sure how much more or what. A few thought the government would somehow attack them for just being there. Of those that had heard of ron Paul, most thought he was too counter-culture.

At the end of the day, I was amazed at how far I'd traveled from the main-stream.

 

[JK/SEA]

They needed US before this could happen.

WE are the reason this is happening.

You hear me?

WE ARE THE REASON THIS IS HAPPENING.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams

Amazing what can happen when a couple of kids in their momma's basements ... get ahold of a couple of lighters.

Here's your answer OP.

 

[raystone]

They needed US before this could happen.

WE are the reason this is happening.

You hear me?

WE ARE THE REASON THIS IS HAPPENING.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams

Amazing what can happen when a couple of kids in their momma's basements ... get ahold of a couple of lighters.

Need to be a little more specific with what "we are reason this is happening" means.

Because Ron Paul and us had nothing to with the 5,000+ tea party happening in Madison, Wisconsin this past Wed. Congrats to those that organized Ron Paul tea parties across the county. But, by all accounts, the majority were GOP related events.

For example, in Wisconsin, the tea party at the state capitol in Madison, was initiated by a GOP PAC group. The first speaker was a congressman (R) that voted yes for the $800B banker bailout. The second speaker is the state GOP chairman that spent months trying to get McCain elected. etc.etc.

I had high hopes for this, but then they kept adding more and more neocons to the lineup.

I saw the same Ron Paul fans/C4Lers that I've known for months with Audit the Fed signs, etc. The rest of the 5k were of the mentality Bush was good, Obama is bad.

A small percentage will ever "get it". In the U.S., we had 5%, or 1.2M vote for Ron Paul in the '08 primary. What would he get now ? 6% , 1.4M ?

The federal government (and I venture to guess every state government) has grown virtually EVERY year for the last 100 years. There are only a couple ways off the road to serfdom, and those are turns few want to take.

 

[donnay]

The Truth Movement had the first Tea Party on December 15/16, 2006

http://bushstole04.com/911/boston_tea_party_for_911_truth.htm

 

[bunklocoempire]

Taxes and spending were ok because we were "fighting a war for our freedoms".

This.

Yet, congress returned to the dems (due to war), which was a foreshadowing of how the '08 PUSA would go down. Friggin obvious.

The neocons are perfectly content to see the country go down in flames.

Mention to a neocon that the same Federal Reserve that prints money for bail outs also prints money to "kill terrorists" and what becomes the priority?

Not ending the Federal Reserve, just installing a new "king".

Bunkloco

 

[bunklocoempire]

Hi, I'm new here. This is my first post.

I was working and not really paying attention. I've been a loyal Republican all my life, as were my parents.

It wasn't until I retired and had time to unwind, relax, and start reflecting that I realized, among many other things, that on every single platform or principle that was my strongest desire in any election year, the Replublicans had lied. They subsequently took an opposite or ameilorated position.

Then in 2007 I was overcome by a deep interest in economics, from watching the news of the economy. Something very strange was happening that I didn't understand. I bought several books including Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" and started reading. Later, more books and the internet. By this time I'd learned enough to have serious questions about Keynsian MacroEconomics and the Chicago School and started looking for other "Schools". I found mises.org and began reading. They've become my Economics school.

So by 2008 I knew I no longer wanted to support the Republican party. But I would not be disloyal to the person and party I'd voted for. However, as soon as it was over, I changed my registration to Constitution Party.

I've voted in every election, all my life, and will continue to do so. But I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat again. I will vote for any name on any voting ticket that is Constitution, Libertarian, Independent, in that order.

I attended the Tea Party demonstration in our small city and talked with the prople there. There were about 100, and I'd guess 2/3 were from a much larger neighboring city. Of these 100 people 2/3 did not support Ron Paul and were happy with one of the 2 political party machines, they just wanted lower taxes. There were no military. There were 2 retired policemen. The other 1/3 wanted more changes than lower taxes but they weren't sure how much more or what. A few thought the government would somehow attack them for just being there. Of those that had heard of ron Paul, most thought he was too counter-culture.

At the end of the day, I was amazed at how far I'd traveled from the main-stream.

.......................WELCOME!!!....................

Thank you for the report! Too counter-culture? Folks just don't recognize Liberty anymore, or what it truly takes to protect it, keep helping them! It is unlikely I will ever vote republican or democrat again, as well as many here.


Bunkloco

 

[acptulsa]

I've voted in every election, all my life, and will continue to do so. But I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat again. I will vote for any name on any voting ticket that is Constitution, Libertarian, Independent, in that order.

Welcome and thank you for chiming in. I've been telling these kids about people like you, but I'm not so sure they've been believing me. I appreciate you for making your presence known. Good to have you here--I hope you'll add your perspective often.

But as a grassroots activist in my G.O.P., and a person who knows we're changing out the old guard and accomplishing good things, I do hope you'll vote for the person, not the party. Consider this: If you lived in the Fourteenth Congressional District of Texas, would you refuse to vote for Ron Paul-(R)?

A lot of people here are working very hard to turn the G.O.P. into something that represents the people. And in cases, we're making excellent progress. Please don't turn your back on the good people we put before you just because we haven't quite polished the whole of that tarnished brand. And if you want to be sure of what you're getting in a Republican candidate, there's a good way to do it--come on down to the convention yourself and look 'under the hood'.

Of course, you'll have to change your registration to do it. As a man who was registered as an independent from the day I turned eighteen until age forty-four, I do understand that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. But it goes away.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

At my tea party....there was equal ire for both partys...nobody was singing Bush's praises. I believe people are waking up. Fox news didn't board this plane until the tea parties were well organized, and if they saw it as an opportunity..so? It got the word out en masse and people responded. This is good. I consider those who keep hammering the republicans to be closet obama supporters and probably voted for him. There is an entrenched Huffington Post crowd on here...and it's disheartening. Whether or not you like the GOP...most of their stances are closer to libertarianism than the socialist / progressives...and our hope lies in the GOP grassroots. Even thought the GOP are RATS at the top of the party...we can convert the grassroots...with Glenn Beck walking the talk. Be glad the movement is growing and quitcha bitchin. tones

 

[jkm1864]

Maybe they were like me they were working 18 hours a day while the good times were here. Now the bad times are here and the work is so slow that We now have time to protest. I think people are starting to get pissed off at all the stealing and cronyism that goes on in washinton.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Need to be a little more specific with what "we are reason this is happening" means.

Because Ron Paul and us had nothing to with the 5,000+ tea party happening in Madison, Wisconsin this past Wed. Congrats to those that organized Ron Paul tea parties across the county. But, by all accounts, the majority were GOP related events.

You know the seed you planted is taking root when you see the idea popping up elsewhere ... and no one can quite put their finger on where exactly they originally got the idea.



Finch: Rookwood. Why didn't you come forward earlier? What were you waiting for?
V: For you, Inspector. I needed you.

 

[Met Income]

Hi, I'm new here. This is my first post.

I was working and not really paying attention. I've been a loyal Republican all my life, as were my parents.

It wasn't until I retired and had time to unwind, relax, and start reflecting that I realized, among many other things, that on every single platform or principle that was my strongest desire in any election year, the Replublicans had lied. They subsequently took an opposite or ameilorated position.

Then in 2007 I was overcome by a deep interest in economics, from watching the news of the economy. Something very strange was happening that I didn't understand. I bought several books including Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nations" and started reading. Later, more books and the internet. By this time I'd learned enough to have serious questions about Keynsian MacroEconomics and the Chicago School and started looking for other "Schools". I found mises.org and began reading. They've become my Economics school.

So by 2008 I knew I no longer wanted to support the Republican party. But I would not be disloyal to the person and party I'd voted for. However, as soon as it was over, I changed my registration to Constitution Party.

I've voted in every election, all my life, and will continue to do so. But I will never vote for a Republican or Democrat again. I will vote for any name on any voting ticket that is Constitution, Libertarian, Independent, in that order.

I attended the Tea Party demonstration in our small city and talked with the prople there. There were about 100, and I'd guess 2/3 were from a much larger neighboring city. Of these 100 people 2/3 did not support Ron Paul and were happy with one of the 2 political party machines, they just wanted lower taxes. There were no military. There were 2 retired policemen. The other 1/3 wanted more changes than lower taxes but they weren't sure how much more or what. A few thought the government would somehow attack them for just being there. Of those that had heard of ron Paul, most thought he was too counter-culture.

At the end of the day, I was amazed at how far I'd traveled from the main-stream.

Nice post. I actually started off as a liberal in college and interned for a Congressional Dem in DC. Then when Bush the Dumber was elected, I was sucked into the neocon/9-11 whirlwind.

I guess you could say I was the ignorant front runner. Bouncing back and forth allowed me to realize that both parties suck and there must be another way. I didn't wake up with Ron Paul. Now I am obsessed with the free market and civil liberties. I took the red pill. And while life is more frightening, it also makes a hell of a lot more sense.

 

[raystone]

You know the seed you planted is taking root when you see the idea popping up elsewhere ... and no one can quite put their finger on where exactly they originally got the idea.

Millions did put their finger on the idea originator, and unfortunately, it was Rick Santelli, not Ron Paul. A smaller percentage attributed the idea to Ron Paul.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Bailouts: Where were the "Tea Parties" during the Bush Era?

At the Sacramento TEA PARTY... it was almost completely runned by grassroots and independent organizations.

Of course, just like Ron Paul stated, Don't let the NEOCONs takeover the movement, unfortunately, some made their way into the mix. Their were state and federal republicans that made it to the podium on stage and FOX covered some of it.

I didn't mind congressman Tom McClintock (R-CA) who has libertarian streaks, even though he didn't endorse Ron Paul for president. He did acknowledge us, when we pushed chants of H.R. 1207 by turning away from Cavuto and the cameras to US with a wink and smile. So we shall see if he will co-sponsor the bill.

We spent so much time educating Republicans in the crowd, about 50% of them seemed to be just the opposite party to anything Obama does and stereo typical hypnotic FOX viewers. I almost got sick when some of these TEA BAGGERS were chanting Michael Reagan ("REAGAN") "we love you", YUCK! That man has been riding the coattails of his father's legacy and they all seem to "chameleon" themselves as Constitutionalists/Libertarians/Populists NOW.

But lets look at recorded history of NEOCON Michael Regan about Ron Paul:

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/13182

So what we will see over the next 2 years is the GOP stealing, morphing, and exploiting the Ron Paul grassroots movement/actions and many other grassroots. I see this even in Congressman McClintoch, who will morph to Ron Paul's messages (Morpholitics I call it). All need to remain aware, just like in Chicago, when they refused to let Michael Steele speak!

More than ever 'We The People' will have to remain acute and expose the GOP exploiting current events combined with the theft of Grassroots actions. Some NEOCONs grabbed the stage in Sacramento, but not the majority. FOX was very fair in Sacramento, yet Neil Cavuto mainly interviewed uninformed, blind, republicans in the crowd. I was quite embarrassed of the people Cavuto interviewed, when I watched the TIVO'd coverage later. On a brighter note, I did so much education to people (republicans) in the crowd, and I was much more effective in my Revolutionary Garb, 9ft flag pole and 5'x8' 13 star flag. Everyone that wanted pictures with me, had to hear about; Sound Money, Freedom, Liberty, HR 1207, and of course Ron Paul. I wish I had C4L/RPF/LF business cards full of URLs, because I had to spend time writing on whatever. Definitely, business cards will work, fliers maybe, but people usual toss them. People will keep business cards in their wallets/computer desks, Roledex, etc

I think I will print my own, now that I see what people need. On a last note to alert the movement across the nation:

Llike "Beware the Ides of March"

"Beware the Cameleon Neocons"

PS: I saw one Campaign for Liberty sign, one Ron Paul sign and dozens of END THE FED t-shirts and signs.

Need to be a little more specific with what "we are reason this is happening" means.

Because Ron Paul and us had nothing to with the 5,000+ tea party happening in Madison, Wisconsin this past Wed. Congrats to those that organized Ron Paul tea parties across the county. But, by all accounts, the majority were GOP related events.

For example, in Wisconsin, the tea party at the state capitol in Madison, was initiated by a GOP PAC group. The first speaker was a congressman (R) that voted yes for the $800B banker bailout. The second speaker is the state GOP chairman that spent months trying to get McCain elected. etc.etc.

I had high hopes for this, but then they kept adding more and more neocons to the lineup.

I saw the same Ron Paul fans/C4Lers that I've known for months with Audit the Fed signs, etc. The rest of the 5k were of the mentality Bush was good, Obama is bad.

A small percentage will ever "get it". In the U.S., we had 5%, or 1.2M vote for Ron Paul in the '08 primary. What would he get now ? 6% , 1.4M ?

The federal government (and I venture to guess every state government) has grown virtually EVERY year for the last 100 years. There are only a couple ways off the road to serfdom, and those are turns few want to take.