Where Are The Oath Keepers Now?

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With everything that's going on with the suppression of the pipeline protesters, I cannot help but wonder where the Oath Keepers are.
 
Arguing about how to keep their pensions while possibly keeping their oath...

Priorities you know?
 
I think today is their monthly casserole bakeoff. And they're gonna play bridge afterwards
 
They got distracted by a bunch of Badge Bunnies, but will get right on this as soon as they're through?

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do native americans respect the constitution?...

not trying to make excuses for oathkeepers, but if a group is not impressed with the constituition, why would the OK send in troops?...
 
do native americans respect the constitution?...

not trying to make excuses for oathkeepers, but if a group is not impressed with the constituition, why would the OK send in troops?...
Excellent question I was wondering the same thing.
 
do native americans respect the constitution?...

not trying to make excuses for oathkeepers, but if a group is not impressed with the constituition, why would the OK send in troops?...

Because it is the right thing to do?

Just a guess, and I mean that seriously... just guessing.
 
With everything that's going on with the suppression of the pipeline protesters, I cannot help but wonder where the Oath Keepers are.

via fedbook

Oath Keepers The Tribe has requested that we do not get involved as an org,
and they have a strict policy of no weapons.
We respect their wishes, their sovereignty, and their right to fight their fight their way.
Should their position change and they invite us out there, we would respond.

10/28/2016
 
No weapons policy... typical thinking of conquered people.

don't discount their chess game

Like a ‘Concentration Camp’ Police Mark DAPL Protesters with Numbers & Lock Them in Dog Kennels

Claire Bernish October 29, 2016 27 Comments






Cannon Ball, N.D. —

On Thursday, police from no less than five states
sporting full riot gear and armed with heavy lethal and nonlethal weaponry, pepper spray, mace,
a number of ATVs, five tanks, two helicopters, and military-equipped humvees
showed up to tear down an encampment
of Standing Rock Sioux water protectors and supporters

armed with … nothing.





Under orders from the now-notorious Morton County Sheriff’s Office, this ridiculously heavy-handed standing army came better prepared to do battle than some actual military units fighting overseas.
But the target of their operation — a group of slightly more than 200 Native American water protectors and supporters opposing construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline — never intended to do battle with the armed, taxpayer-funded, corporate-backed, state-sponsored aggressors.
Reports vary, but no less than 141 people were arrested Thursday, and — according to witnesses — police marked numbers on arrestees’ arms and housed them in cement-floored dog kennels, without any padding, before they were transported as far away as Fargo.
“It goes back to concentration camp days,” asserted Oceti-Sakowin coordinator Mekasi Camp-Horinek, who, along with his mother, was marked and detained in a mesh kennel, reports the Los Angeles Times.
Although Thursday’s incident remained relatively peaceful for some time, with only shouts, chants, and occasional attempts by water protectors to convince this standing army to examine its motives and reconsider, clashes nonetheless broke out — solely because of gratuitous police aggression.


After facing off for a couple hours, these militant cops began closing in on the water protectors to shut down the Treaty of 1851 camp — in reference to the Fort Laramie Treaty of that year, which established a large parcel of land designated exclusively Native American territory not to be disturbed by the U.S. government. Prior to his arrest, Camp-Horinek had established the camp, stating, as cited by Indigenous Rising:
“Today, the Oceti Sakowin has enacted eminent domain on DAPL lands, claiming 1851 treaty rights. This is unceded land. Highway 1806 as of this point is blockaded. We will be occupying this land and staying here until this pipeline is permanently stopped. We need bodies and we need people who are trained in non-violent direct action. We are still staying non-violent and we are still staying peaceful.”
Despite the water protectors’ commitment to nonviolence, the militarized police response went as would be expected — horribly awry.
“A prayer circle of elders, including several women, was interrupted and all were arrested for standing peacefully on the public road,” stated a press release from Indigenous Environment Network. “A tipi was erected in the road and was recklessly dismantled, despite law enforcement statements that they would merely mark the tipi with a yellow ribbon and ask its owners to retrieve it. A group of water protectors was also dragged out of a sweat lodge ceremony erected in the path of the pipeline, thrown to the ground, and arrested.”
Claims to the contrary by Morton County Sheriff Kyle Kirchmeier aside, Native American and Indigenous water protectors and supporters have refrained from violent acts on the whole, preferring instead peaceful prayer vigils and acts of civil disobedience.
No matter how peacefully the opposition acts, armed defenders of Big Oil interests seem determined to brutalize, disrespect, and generally incite and inflict violence against those who desire unsullied water for generations to come.
In fact, at the beginning of September, a private security firm hired by Energy Transfer Partners, the company responsible for pipeline construction, indiscriminately unleashed vicious attack dogs on water protectors, press, and supporters — for reasons as yet unknown.
During the savage attack, a pregnant woman, young girl, and many others suffered serious dog bites thanks to the ineptitude of the dogs’ handlers. Afterward, a warrant for inciting a riot was issued Democracy Now! journalist Amy Goodman — for doing her job, filming events as they happened — though charges were subsequently thrown out.
Although ETP and some law enforcement officers defended the barbarous actions of the private security mercenaries, the Guardian now reports that — because the guards lacked proper licensing — they could now face criminal charges. On Wednesday, the Morton County Sheriff’s Office made the determination that “dog handlers were not properly licensed to do security work in the state of North Dakota.”
Bob Frost, owner of Ohio-based Frost Kennels, told the Guardian, “All the proper protocols … were already done. I pulled my guys out the next day because we weren’t there to go to war with these protesters.”
Frost insisted he had cooperated with authorities investigating the incident — but the sheriff’s department disagrees. Seven handlers and dogs were deployed to the scene in early September, allegedly in response to reports of trespassers; but, according to the Guardian, police have only managed to identify two people.
The sheriff’s department claims Frost has not provided necessary information, and unnamed security officials cited in the report said that “there were no intentions of using the dogs or handlers for security work. … However, because of the protest events, the dogs were deployed as a method of trying to keep the protesters under control.”
In a statement cited by the Guardian, Morton County Captain Jay Gruebele said, “Although lists of security employees have been provided, there is no way of confirming whether the list is accurate or if names have been purposely withheld.”
Water protectors, in the meantime, are left to deal with absurdly disproportionate state violence — and the altogether unacceptable, disrespectful, and demeaning insult of being relegated to dog kennels after being arrested for exercising their rights.
As Lakota Country Times editor Brandon Ecoffey wrote in an editorial Thursday,
“Over the course of the last several months the abuse of detainees by Morton County Law Enforcement has overstepped every boundary guaranteed by the American constitution. Water protectors have been seen being bound and hooded by police. People are being stripped searched and abused within their jail for misdemeanor crimes. And police have employed the use of mass surveillance through drones on the protector camps. This isn’t a war zone this is North Dakota.”
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/li...-dapl-protesters-numbers-locking-dog-kennels/
 
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Thanks for the update presence.

I still say the OK are a stand up group and doing good work.

That was a real thread killer, huh? Thanks for the recognition, it helps after reading some of the comments through out the years in threads like this. I quit posting here and only lurk now and then. I wont be posting much again, but I did want to say this. I realize we have made and will make mistakes, but a "useless" organization? And so much disrespect for our efforts?

We are not a huge well funded org like the NRA; we are a tiny org in comparison, and we're doing the best we can. And when big groups like the NSA, FBI, SPLC have you in their sights... and the MSM is trashing you while you are standing up to big government... at the same time you are trying to educate police and military... it's discouraging when people that are true liberty lovers attack you as well.

And even if you have the mindset that there is no such thing as a good cop... can't you at least respect the fact that we are trying to stand up to, and stop... the worst of cops and big government?

Stewart wanted to continue the RP Revolution by educating police and military (the people that would enforce unlawful orders). I went "all in" with him and we started OK. I'll continue my "useless" work... and try not to continue to disappoint so many of the "true fighters for liberty" here at RPF.
 
Happy Thanksgiving VP.

Last I heard the OKer's were protecting Electors who were being threatened.
 
That was a real thread killer, huh? Thanks for the recognition, it helps after reading some of the comments through out the years in threads like this. I quit posting here and only lurk now and then. I wont be posting much again, but I did want to say this. I realize we have made and will make mistakes, but a "useless" organization? And so much disrespect for our efforts?

We are not a huge well funded org like the NRA; we are a tiny org in comparison, and we're doing the best we can. And when big groups like the NSA, FBI, SPLC have you in their sights... and the MSM is trashing you while you are standing up to big government... at the same time you are trying to educate police and military... it's discouraging when people that are true liberty lovers attack you as well.

And even if you have the mindset that there is no such thing as a good cop... can't you at least respect the fact that we are trying to stand up to, and stop... the worst of cops and big government?

Stewart wanted to continue the RP Revolution by educating police and military (the people that would enforce unlawful orders). I went "all in" with him and we started OK. I'll continue my "useless" work... and try not to continue to disappoint so many of the "true fighters for liberty" here at RPF.

Keep up the good work.
 
That was a real thread killer, huh? Thanks for the recognition, it helps after reading some of the comments through out the years in threads like this. I quit posting here and only lurk now and then. I wont be posting much again, but I did want to say this. I realize we have made and will make mistakes, but a "useless" organization? And so much disrespect for our efforts?

We are not a huge well funded org like the NRA; we are a tiny org in comparison, and we're doing the best we can. And when big groups like the NSA, FBI, SPLC have you in their sights... and the MSM is trashing you while you are standing up to big government... at the same time you are trying to educate police and military... it's discouraging when people that are true liberty lovers attack you as well.

And even if you have the mindset that there is no such thing as a good cop... can't you at least respect the fact that we are trying to stand up to, and stop... the worst of cops and big government?

Stewart wanted to continue the RP Revolution by educating police and military (the people that would enforce unlawful orders). I went "all in" with him and we started OK. I'll continue my "useless" work... and try not to continue to disappoint so many of the "true fighters for liberty" here at RPF.

Plus, what are OK's to do in the middle of that when it is explicitly disarmed, AND there are more OK's in the region doing things than people know about. I know for a fact that more than one group of OK's have independently set up within response distance in case things go...........really bad.

Stuart has also been open from day one about his ill opinion of Malheur, and he has not been censoring himself. Perhaps he is just not being heard right now. Interestingly it was pretty much identical to mine arrived at independently. I've been much-hated here for saying Malheur was a horrible idea from day one. The 'op' managed to turn a standing undisputed win into a convoluted loss, and cost the life of a true patriot.

I imagine some (maybe a lot?) of the antipathy against Stuart Rhodes here is because he shares the same opinion about Malheur as I do.

Those of you who are still angry at Rhodes (and myself) for arguing that Malheur was a horrible idea, consider this, opposition to the events at Malheur does not imply that they (or I) would not be trading fire at Waco. We both said up front that Malheur was strategically insane. We turned out correct. Why are we the enemy for arguing against what we perceived as a horrible mistake, that turned out to actually be a horrible mistake? Aren't people with that kind of insight exactly who you want making decisions on ops?
 
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