When Will Wonder Woman Be a Fat, Femme Woman of Color?

[Suzanimal]

Yes. The problem is Marvel's production of pedestrian, agenda-driven characters and stories.

But he's trying to shift the blame onto Marvel's ostensibly bigoted readers.

The reason readers don't want what Marvel is/was peddling is that those female/minority characters are stereotypically involved in stories that are driven by "social justice" activism (rather than in good, exciting stories with heroes and villains that are cool and interesting in their own right).

Exactly.

To be fair, I'm partial to the characters I grew up reading and haven't bought anything (aside from a Daredevil with Typhoid Mary's 1st appearance. I couldn't resist, she's pretty damn crazy.) that didn't have WW in it as an adult.

 

[DamianTV]

Is anyone actually aware that the main actress, Gal Gadot, is Israeli, NOT American?

 

[Anti Federalist]

well, it just wouldn't be the same, would it?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is anyone actually aware that the main actress, Gal Gadot, is Israeli, NOT American?

Yeah, I thought that done for more "global" reach.

 

[Suzanimal]

Is anyone actually aware that the main actress, Gal Gadot, is Israeli, NOT American?

Yeah, I thought that done for more "global" reach.

Yeah. I dunno how or why they picked her but she's pretty. I didn't care for her costume, though.

I'm just glad they didn't pick a blonde.

 

[Suzanimal]

Reminded me of this thread

 

[Anti Federalist]

Also, why are you trying to convince me that human race/breed exists when I have never argued against it? So yea, I agree that whatever we all see as race now exists. At least its one thing we can say we agree on

Just pointing it out for other readers, that's all.

 

[Suzanimal]

 

[Anti Federalist]

Flop.

Of course, no reviewer will touch the casting fuck up, but, there it is.

The Dark Tower review – interminable Stephen King adaptation a uniquely flavorless slog

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...en-king-adaptation-a-uniquely-flavorless-slog

 

[juleswin]

Flop.

Of course, no reviewer will touch the casting $#@! up, but, there it is.

The Dark Tower review – interminable Stephen King adaptation a uniquely flavorless slog

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...en-king-adaptation-a-uniquely-flavorless-slog

Maybe it is because it wasn't the casting or rather the colour of one of actors in the movie that got it the bad reviews. Maybe just maybe, it could have been he fact that they tried to fit a plot dense novels into a 90 minute runtime. Not having watched the movie, you also know that it couldn't have been the script, the directing or anything else that could affect the outcome of the movie, it had to be race of the protagonist and I can only imagine the rage you felt this morning after searching and searching for a movie critic who confirmed your bias that it was the casting of Alba and him alone ruined the movie for you.

Well, just know that there are loads of article of "uppity" women "whinning" about the fact that there aren't enough hardworking, responsible, fit men to date you can post.

 

[juleswin]

Movie review of the Dark Towers that I am sure will make some people raging mad this morning

Hint: it wasn't the casting and like I earlier predicted, it was the failed attempt of trying to adapt a series of novels into a 95 minute movie

 

[specsaregood]

Movie review of the Dark Towers that I am sure will make some people raging mad this morning

Hint: it wasn't the casting and like I earlier predicted, it was the failed attempt of trying to adapt a series of novels into a 95 minute movie

Congratulations on finding a review that confirms your own bias?

 

[juleswin]

Congratulations on finding a review that confirms your own bias?

It is not the same thing, it a bit nuanced and i'll explain. First of all, this is a novel I did not read, a genre that I have little interest in and in fact I had no expectation for the movie before it came out. My post is just a counter to his racialist(think race baity but not quite) post that predicted/expected that the movie must have sucked because they did not cast the correct coloured character as lead. That reply was to show that my educated guess that trying to adapt a long running novel series into a 90 minute video might have more to do with the movie being mediocre than race.

There is no other way to make this point without appearing to some that I have a bias. Well, the only bias you can get me on is the bias against posts like his. I hate it, it depresses me, it annoys me...................... you get the gist.

 

[specsaregood]

There is no other way to make this point without appearing to some that I have a bias. Well, the only bias you can get me on is the bias against posts like his. I hate it, it depresses me, it annoys me...................... you get the gist.

Oh I get it, YOU have bias-free privilege.

 

[juleswin]

Oh I get it, YOU have bias-free privilege.

Yep, the privilege of making unfounded predictions and when those predictions did not come true, complain that it is the critics who failed to confirm my prediction because of some PC hold back. And all the while I haven't seen the movie that is the base of this prediction.

In my country, you would be made to wear a sign and stand on the roadside for passerby's to laugh and snicker at your dumb privilege

 

[Anti Federalist]

Maybe it is because it wasn't the casting or rather the colour of one of actors in the movie that got it the bad reviews. Maybe just maybe, it could have been he fact that they tried to fit a plot dense novels into a 90 minute runtime. Not having watched the movie, you also know that it couldn't have been the script, the directing or anything else that could affect the outcome of the movie, it had to be race of the protagonist and I can only imagine the rage you felt this morning after searching and searching for a movie critic who confirmed your bias that it was the casting of Alba and him alone ruined the movie for you.

Well, just know that there are loads of article of "uppity" women "whinning" about the fact that there aren't enough hardworking, responsible, fit men to date you can post.

The casting sucked, and it was presented as a politically correct fuck you, whatever the other faults of the movie were.

To, as you noted, squeeze 7 novels into 90 minutes, it took trashing the character development.

Sorry if that chaps your ass, but there it is.

And as to the "uppity" women threads, like I already noted, they're all yours pal.

I'll be happy to loan ya 20 cows if you need to get a leg up on the other beta orbiters.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yep, the privilege of making unfounded predictions and when those predictions did not come true, complain that it is the critics who failed to confirm my prediction because of some PC hold back. And all the while I haven't seen the movie that is the base of this prediction.

In my country, you would be made to wear a sign and stand on the roadside for passerby's to laugh and snicker at your dumb privilege

Who's complaining?

I don't really care all that much one way or the other, but I am going to snicker that it failed.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It is not the same thing, it a bit nuanced and i'll explain. First of all, this is a novel I did not read, a genre that I have little interest in and in fact I had no expectation for the movie before it came out. My post is just a counter to his racialist(think race baity but not quite) post that predicted/expected that the movie must have sucked because they did not cast the correct coloured character as lead. That reply was to show that my educated guess that trying to adapt a long running novel series into a 90 minute video might have more to do with the movie being mediocre than race.

So you didn't read the books or see the movie, but you can confirm that my complaint is strictly based on racism?

If you had read the books, you would know that the character of Roland Deschain was white, and the fact that he was white played a crucial role in subsequent character development.

To chuck that out the window assured a weak screenplay and lousy movie, with none of the dynamics of character interaction that made the books, to me at least, fun to read.

But, if insist, let it be all about race to you.

After the vitriol and hate that has been directed at me and my family and my heritage by some in the leadership of black AmeriKa over the last year, I have not a single fuck to give if somebody thinks I'm a "racist".

 

[juleswin]

The casting sucked, and it was presented as a politically correct $#@! you, whatever the other faults of the movie were.

To, as you noted, squeeze 7 novels into 90 minutes, it took trashing the character development.

Sorry if that chaps your ass, but there it is.

And as to the "uppity" women threads, like I already noted, they're all yours pal.

I'll be happy to loan ya 20 cows if you need to get a leg up on the other beta orbiters.

The casting sucked you say but my guess is that even with all its flaws, you would have watched it if not for the melanin overdose? Its a genuine question not speculation, a question which I would let you answer.

The story telling was bound to be a problem(some) for anyone who read the books, my rule of thumb for these sort of situations is this. Don't watch a movie adaptation to a book you really like and don't read the book to a movie to really like, doing either one would most likely fu*k up your day. Also, these ironic part is that generally these movies are not made for the people who read the books and made it popular but for the people who did not read the book. My sister would interject every single time I we watched the lord of the rings or Harry Potter to tells me where the plot deviated from the novel and this pissed her off even though both movies were widely considered to be good movies. I plan on seeing it next week and my guess is that I would mostly not think it was horrible. The lore, the character, means nothing to me and that way, I can enjoy a 90 min movie without hangup people who read the book have. And there you have it

The funny thing about this movie is that I would have never heard about it if not for all the complaining I saw on this forum about the casting. Never saw any ads on tele or even youtube. Its that weird? To be fair, I think you turned more people off than on to the movie

About the fit, professional, cosmopolitan, good looking and uppity ladies, I really don't think you had a say in the matter. My guess is that you are probably not their type(me neither), so its not like if I was going for them(which I am not) you would be competition. Again, I am not going for them, never said I was. All I am saying is that there is nothing wrong with the way they looked or their demands. Any woman going for an unfit, unsuccessful, lazy, uninteresting man (subjective) needs to get their heads checked.

Women now be discriminating, how dare those uppity women not pick the first dude that walks through the door. I know who is to blame, it is feminism

 

[juleswin]

Who's complaining?

I don't really care all that much one way or the other, but I am going to snicker that it failed.

You people have been complaining in that other thread about the movie. I did not know this movie or book existed until I saw that thread with you guys complaining about the casting of Ronald Deschain.

I will leave you with this quote. You can lie to me but whatever you do, don't lie to yourself.

Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.

Fyodor Dostoyevsky