When They Come For Your Guns . . . You Will Turn Them Over

[RickyJ]

My thoughts are that the person who wrote this article highly underestimates the ability of free Americans to fight for their freedom unto death. You think they won't fight back and think they won't win? I got news for you, they will and cowards won't be invited to their new nation.

 

[Tod]

My thoughts are that the person who wrote this article highly underestimates the ability of free Americans to fight for their freedom unto death. You think they won't fight back and think they won't win? I got news for you, they will and cowards won't be invited to their new nation.

Should Americans "fight back", or should they take the approach of civil disobedience?

 

[Tod]

I'm so pissed off right now, not only is this topic something that I have spent a lot of time thinking about what I would do but also because I just recently saw an excellent video that compared stories of resistance vs stories of compliance and the different results and now I can't find it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

It wasn't this (one of a series) was it?



Here is the first one in the series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shTBSGoYtK0&feature=relmfu

 

[pcosmar]

For example, take Anaheim today. Is that yet at a point where citizens should unite in acting out against the gov't? Or is it a relatively small or isolated incident? Why are not huge crowds of citizens refusing to submit to police orders? When the leader of the march was arrested a couple days ago, why did everyone stand there watching him be hauled off instead of rushing the police and taking the man back?

Years of disarmament, and propaganda.
Had they attempted to do so,, they would have been cut down by the snipers on the rooftops.

They likely did not want to end up like the original victim (that started this) with a police bullet in the back of their head.

If citizens could and would act as one, this would be quite easy, but when there is no coordination, it is easy to tell oneself that we aren't at the point of having to take action. If we would act as one, any injustice could quickly be redressed, but without, the question of prematurity always looms.

There again,, any organization is quickly infiltrated and co-opted.
And they are very good at dividing people,, they keep groups fighting each other so uniting against the real enemy doesn't happen.

 

[Czolgosz]

They'll disarm you through taxation, licensing, and social pressure. You'll comply.

No need to bother with mass confiscation.

 

[youngbuck]

They'll disarm you through taxation, licensing, and social pressure. You'll comply.

No need to bother with mass confiscation.

This has been their MO for many decades. Don't forget the false-flags they'll surely toss in there.

 

[pacelli]

I am already disarmed by law.. I have nothing for them to come for.
In fact,, it was my arrest and persecution for a gun that I did not own that got me involved here.

IF.. If and when I were to ever step into active resistance (as opposed to passive resistance), I would take arms from that bastards and use them. I may well end up dead in that event,, or perhaps I will prevail. in which case it would be their bodies lying on a pool of their own blood while I strip their corpse of anything of value.

I can only hope I am not alone in this mindset when the time comes.

The enemy is nothing more than a mobile resupply pod.

 

[AuH20]

I love this response. Fear the wrath of the grey hairs!!! I'm around 30 but I love this talk!:

Flee where Mr. Lawyer? To the South American rain forest orTo the deep caverns of the Andes? Even Ecuador may offer a temporary refuge, but eventually you will be haunted and terrorized by the baying of the NWO hounds.

No Mr. Lawyer, running has been what Americans have been doing for the last hundred years. Its not about winning the fight its about standing up to tyranny. The idea that you can run and live to fight another day is an illusion. For you it may simply come down to crawling under a rock.

Mr. Lawyer, you'll never fight and more power to you if you can pull it off, but my belief is that you will be rounded up by some NWO bounty hunter and brought to a re-education facility or turned into Soil-It-Green.

Anyone who admits, on this site, that they will resist has just become an enemy of the state. You now are coded "Red." I'll take that as a compliment. The Spooks put this article together as a patriot net me thinks.

The grey hair army is a force the NWO thugs are going to have serious troubles with because they don't care.
Some of us old fogies are about to check out anyway. The rest of the "Grey Hairs" are dead men walking so what do they have to lose? Ten million Grey Hairs spanks one thug each translates into a bit of a problem for the men in black body armor and tanks.

 

[cstarace]

Should Americans "fight back", or should they take the approach of civil disobedience?

Fight back. Direct force should be met with direct force. Pacifism and liberty are completely incompatible.

 

[anaconda]

It wasn't this (one of a series) was it?



Here is the first one in the series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shTBSGoYtK0&feature=relmfu

Wow! What a clear and engaging lecturer. I'm gonna try to watch as many of these as I can!

 

[GuerrillaXXI]

A poster just talked about strategies to neutralize the fearsome APC:

Here's another way:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/50679291/Improvised-Shaped-Charges

Here's a demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fce0vxVR4oo

Lots of instructional information about explosives is available on YouTube and on the Web in general. It's CRUCIAL for anyone who would resist possible future tyranny to study this subject with an obsession!

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At some point the tyrants will have more effective robots at their disposal. A lot of either shortsighted or conscienceless dickheads are working hard to create real-life "Terminators" that politicians can send after their enemies. Most of the research is being funded by DARPA, the greatest enemy of our freedom today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o02d0dgSvDA

Defeating these will require some ingenuity. Firearms may work against initial models, but who knows how heavily-armored they will eventually be. Molotov cocktails will certainly do the job, but then you might end up with an uncontrolled fire. Wire entanglements might stop a robot like "Big Dog" from entering an area. Robots won't be as adaptable as humans for a long time, but we need to be prepared for all possibilities and not get caught with our pants down.

Who will be our target if robots are sent after us someday? Those who make, maintain, and command the robots, of course.

 

[shane77m]

Here's another way:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/50679291/Improvised-Shaped-Charges

Here's a demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fce0vxVR4oo

Lots of instructional information about explosives is available on YouTube and on the Web in general. It's CRUCIAL for anyone who would resist possible future tyranny to study this subject with an obsession!

Just visited the links. I am sure enough flagged now. : )

 

[GuerrillaXXI]

The grey hair army is a force the NWO thugs are going to have serious troubles with because they don't care.
Some of us old fogies are about to check out anyway. The rest of the "Grey Hairs" are dead men walking so what do they have to lose? Ten million Grey Hairs spanks one thug each translates into a bit of a problem for the men in black body armor and tanks.

This is also something that's occurred to me. Each of us should be willing to accept death as long as we take at least one or two (and preferably more) murdering goons with us. We all have to die sometime, right?

Being old, however, can be a major psychological advantage. An old person is more aware than a younger man that his time is limited and that death is inevitable. He might even be tired of living -- of the worries, the aches and pains, the injustice he sees around him. Tyranny gives him a chance to be a hero and go to his grave knowing that he was able to punish the enemies of freedom, and that there wasn't a damn thing those arrogant control freaks could do about it.

 

[GuerrillaXXI]

Just visited the links. I am sure enough flagged now. : )

Good man! And don't worry. Tons of people download that kind of stuff. And just think about the people who upload it! I haven't heard of anyone getting targeted just for that. But the day may come when that starts to happen. That's why we need to acquire this info while we still can.

By the way, patents are another great source of info on explosives and weapons. There are also discussion boards out there devoted to such topics.

 

[pcosmar]

Just visited the links. I am sure enough flagged now. : )

I was taught to build IED's in High School ROTC. I joined the Army after HS, and got the best training your tax dollars could afford.
(Thank You Very Much)
I was later trained in Anti-Tank specialty. . I have spent time in a maximum security Penitentiary as a resident,, and worked for years with autos and Fabrication.
All of my esoteric knowledge and survival skills will be available should they try something that damn stupid.

And yes,, I am sure I am on a list or two.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

Who in your community is a former military mechanic etc?

I spent two years as an infantry battalion maintenance officer. I know the weakness of every machine used by a modern mechanized infantry unit. Tanks, Bradleys, Strykers, Blackhawks, etc. I do not fear the machines.

 

[Pericles]

Who in your community is a former military mechanic etc?

I spent two years as an infantry battalion maintenance officer. I know the weakness of every machine used by a modern mechanized infantry unit. Tanks, Bradleys, Strykers, Blackhawks, etc. I do not fear the machines.

They are broke half the time, anyway.

 

[Bman]

Of course the vast majority would roll over. At the same time they would hardly support the governments action and would probably praise the minority that said no way. Which could actually lead to revolution. I don't think the PTB are that foolish. At least at this point. They would need to take guns away little by little. There's so many guns in this country it would take generations.

 

[pacelli]

From a few years ago, the numbers only go up...

 

[pcosmar]

From a few years ago,

Also from a few years ago..



Not tactics I am in favor of,, But a very likely scenario just the same.
Regardless of "How it starts" once it is started,, it will escalate.