What's a Ron Paul Democrat for Congress?

[thoughtbombing]

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[trispear]

the democratic party does not agree with our philosophy, i don't think it can be fixed

Neither does the current Republican party.

I think I will check this Hal guy out.

 

[Eponym_mi]

the democratic party does not agree with our philosophy, i don't think it can be fixed

The Republican party doesn't either. We're political vagrants.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Writing and submitting bills is one thing. Getting them through committee hearings, passed in the House, passed in the Senate, through conference and reconciliation, and finally signed into law by the president is a whole other thing altogether.

I believe that Ron can attest to this.

What is a Ron Paul Democrat? An oxymoron.<IMHO>

 

[thoughtbombing]

What is a Ron Paul Democrat? An oxymoron.<IMHO>

And a Ron Paul Republican?

Also an oxymoron, save ONE. The One and Only.

 

[RonRules]

Writing and submitting bills is one thing. Getting them through committee hearings, passed in the House, passed in the Senate, through conference and reconciliation, and finally signed into law by the president is a whole other thing altogether.

I believe that Ron can attest to this.

What is a Ron Paul Democrat? An oxymoron.<IMHO>

Remember the Reagan Democrats? They along with Reagan gave us the best prosperity in the country's history.

Yes it's kind of an oxymoron, but that's intentional. It's catching on, I'm telling you

 

[RonRules]

Writing and submitting bills is one thing. Getting them through committee hearings, passed in the House, passed in the Senate, through conference and reconciliation, and finally signed into law by the president is a whole other thing altogether.

I spoke to a Washington lobbyist a couple of months ago that explained the process. Basically all the decisions get done through the committees (an effectively secret process) and bills only get to the floor for voting unless they are almost certain they will pass. No congress people want to be associated with losing votes (except Ron Paul), so the whole system needs an overhaul.

I would insist that c-span have cameras in the committee rooms.

 

[Enano1983]

OK, give me 60 seconds to make a point:

The Republicans are going to get a severe beating in November. That will not only affect the Presidential race, but Congress as well.

Several Ron Paul supporters have announced a run for Congress and that's great and we should encourage them.

But, why not DOUBLE DOWN ?

Here's what I mean: Ron Paul will not run as a 3rd party because he feels it's better to change the Republican party back to it's roots rather than to run Liberterian or whatever. Ron Paul is right and we should totally support him.

However, nobody is working on fixing the Democratic party. NOBODY.

We need to seriously start searching for candidates that can do this. Here's what a Ron Paul Democrat would "look like"

1) On the war, he/she would pull troops out of 50 countries within 2 years. He would reduce the effort in Iraq and proportionally pull out from the middle east by at least 50% in the first term of office.

2) On debt & taxes, he would absolutely swear to have a fully balanced budget within 2 years, including war costs and of course not raise taxes.

3) On health care, he would encourage health savings accounts and prevent insurance companies from rejecting patients.

4) Spending saved on overseas troop pullout would be used to strengthen national security and prevent border crossings.

5) On illegal immigration, he would deport illegals that have committed crimes and fine the rest. People with US born children would not be deported.

6) Privacy and personal liberties would be like Ron Paul.

7) The candidate would be pro-choice.

8) Social security would be guaranteed to existing users, but new entrants would have the choice to invest privately.

9) Federal Education dept would be dismantled with all proceeds and staff going to the states. Same for dept of energy except for research.

10) EPA would be mostly dismantled except for research and setting guidelines.

11) NASA would be cut back to encourage private space ventures.

So, remember folks, the above list is for DEMOCRAT voters. I believe most Demorcats would find this list acceptable.


Here's a good example of someone I consider as a "Ron Paul Democrat". Hal is a true patriot, fiscally conservative that will get the job done efficiently. I happen to know this guy personally:
http://bidlack2008.com/


Now, go ahead and comment!

Thanks! I'm a life-long democrat who came here to support Ron Paul. This is the kind of thing I was just thinking about. I know for a fact that there are other Ron Paul Democrats on this board (you know who you are) so we should get together and mobilize in much the same way the republicans are doing.

Most of the above are things that I agree with, there are some things I would change, but I don't agree with all of Ron Paul's stances either.

But it is a great idea to "double-down", the fact that we're here means that there are aspects of RPs campaign that we find more democratic than what we're being offered by our own party, so why not promote similar ideas in our own party while avoiding the things that disgust us about the GOP?

One thing that I loved about RP was he's pro-life but would move the power to the state. Religiously I believe that life is sacred and should be protected, but I strongly believe that no one should be allowed to impose their personal views on the freedoms of others and hence have always voted against anti-abortion laws. RP's idea of being pro-life but pro-choice was one that I had never considered and fits me perfectly.

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

I think a Ron Paul Democrat could emphasize a sound monetary policy like Paul has (fiat money has crippled the working class with rampant inflation), push for a drastically simpler tax code with no taxes (including payroll) on modest incomes, advocate federalism for most government programs, fight for balanced budgets, and support paying off the debt. Civil liberties and a humble foreign policy backed by a strong national defense would be a given.

 

[MikeSmith]

Ron Paul Democrats are a very good idea. There is an enormous amount of Bush hatred. A lot of people will be voting D this year even if they know nothing about the candidate.

 

[klamath]

Ron Paul Democrats are a very good idea. There is an enormous amount of Bush hatred. A lot of people will be voting D this year even if they know nothing about the candidate.

Yep, this is a great year to run RP Democrats. I will vote for them even as I stay a registered Republican.

 

[RevolutionSD]

Mike Copass is running for congress in the 53rd district of San Diego and I would consider him a Ron Paul Democrat:

www.copassforcongress.com

I like Mike.