What was the alternative to what the police did in Boston?

[Brett85]

Ok, I agree that there shouldn't have been members of the military or national guard on the ground. I still don't see a problem with having the police create a perimiter and search for a suspect.

 

[affa]

There have been some people who basically said that the police should've simply put out a "wanted poster" and relied on private citizens to capture the suspect. They basically just want a country of anarchy where each individual defends themselves and the government shouldn't even defend life, liberty, and property.

I've asked before, and you failed to respond. Please provide quotes of these people that have posted that "police should've simply put out a "wanted poster"" and what not. You keep claiming "people" are posting that cops should have done "nothing" and other such words, but never back it up. I've read all these threads and have never seen it. However, you have a long (as in, years) history of conveniently rewording the opinions/assertions of others and completely misrepresenting them.

You've certainly done it at least half a dozen times in this very thread, as has been pointed out by several posters.

 

[Brett85]

I've asked before, and you failed to respond. Please provide quotes of these people that have posted that "police should've simply put out a "wanted poster"" and what not. You keep claiming "people" are posting that cops should have done "nothing" and other such words, but never back it up. I've read all these threads and have never seen it. However, you have a long (as in, years) history of conveniently rewording the opinions/assertions of others and completely misrepresenting them.

You've certainly done it at least half a dozen times in this very thread, as has been pointed out by several posters.

It's not the exact same wording, but similar.

They could have simply broadcast their pictures, and told people to be on the lookout for them but not to approach as they usually do. I cannot in my lifetime remember a whole city being shut down before.

 

[affa]

I believe I said that this attack was the 1st attack on our soil since 9-11.

No, you said:

It was an extraoridinary situation because it was only the 2nd terrorist attack on our soil in our country's history. It's not something that happens every day.

I know you love to reword the statements of everyone else, but at least get your own shit straight.

Unless you think we started a new country on 9/11, which honestly, wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Anti Federalist]

They could have simply broadcast their pictures, and told people to be on the lookout for them but not to approach as they usually do. I cannot in my lifetime remember a whole city being shut down before.

The same thing when the whole system went into high alert mode over the parents that "kidnapped" their own children.

I quizzed my deck officers, with well over 150 combined years of experience, not ONE of us had EVER heard a radio broadcast like we heard when that whole situation was going on.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Unless you think we started a new country on 9/11, which honestly, wouldn't surprise me.

The old one died, no doubt about that.

 

[Brett85]

I know you love to reword the statements of everyone else, but at least get your own shit straight.

Unless you think we started a new country on 9/11, which honestly, wouldn't surprise me.

Go back about 3 pages or so and read the posts. I said that I made a misstatement and it wasn't want I meant to say. I meant to say that this was the first terrorist attack since 9-11.

 

[pcosmar]

Go back about 3 pages or so and read the posts. I said that I made a misstatement and it wasn't want I meant to say. I meant to say that this was the first terrorist attack since 9-11.

Well then you are wrong there again.



There have been constant terrorist attacks.. By the FBI.

 

[affa]

It's not the exact same wording, but similar.

And I repeat, QUOTE it. if you're going to keep claiming people say stuff 'like that', provide some quotes. Because I have not seen it, and i'm up to date on all these stupid threads. Even the fringiest of the fringe aren't posting that cops should have done absolutely nothing. Some may disagree with law enforcement in general, but that is not even remotely the same thing and would be conflating a post about theory with a post on what should have been done.

 

[Brett85]

And I repeat, QUOTE it. if you're going to keep claiming people say stuff 'like that', provide some quotes. Because I have not seen it, and i'm up to date on all these stupid threads. Even the fringiest of the fringe aren't posting that cops should have done absolutely nothing. Some may disagree with law enforcement in general, but that is not even remotely the same thing and would be conflating a post about theory with a post on what should have been done.

Um, I did quote it. I'll quote it again.

They could have simply broadcast their pictures, and told people to be on the lookout for them but not to approach as they usually do. I cannot in my lifetime remember a whole city being shut down before.

 

[Origanalist]

I'm getting famous.

 

[The Gold Standard]

The funny thing is the Constitution provides for too much government for many of our liking, but we are the ones defending it from Democrats and Republicans alike that pick and choose which parts they want to obey and which ones they don't. If you want troops to be allowed to invade homes at their will, amend the fucking Constitution. Until then, spare me what judges say about it.

 

[Brett85]

The funny thing is the Constitution provides for too much government for many of our liking, but we are the ones defending it from Democrats and Republicans alike that pick and choose which parts they want to obey and which ones they don't. If you want troops to be allowed to invade homes at their will, amend the fucking Constitution. Until then, spare me what judges say about it.

If you want to have no warrantless searches under any circumstances, then amend the Constitution and strike out the words "unreasonable searches" and replace it with the words "no searches."

 

[The Gold Standard]

If you want to have no warrantless searches under any circumstances, then amend the Constitution and strike out the words "unreasonable searches" and replace it with the words "no searches."

Warrantless is the same word a unreasonable. Why don't you understand that? Warrant is a synonym of reason.

 

[Brett85]

Warrantless is the same word a unreasonable. Why don't you understand that?

There just isn't a single federal judge who sees it that way. Look, I'm generally against warrantless searches. I'm opposed to the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, warrantless drone use, etc. But I also recognize that the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have the authority to search homes without a warrant in extraordinary situations where there's an imminent threat to public safety.

 

[Anti Federalist]

But I also recognize that the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have the authority to search homes without a warrant in extraordinary situations where there's an imminent threat to public safety.

Which is all the time, every day, 24/7.

The Homeland is the battlefield everyday in a War on Terror that is open-ended and never, ever going to end.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

 

[The Gold Standard]

There just isn't a single federal judge who sees it that way. Look, I'm generally against warrantless searches. I'm opposed to the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, warrantless drone use, etc. But I also recognize that the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have the authority to search homes without a warrant in extraordinary situations where there's an imminent threat to public safety.

There isn't a single federal judge that doesn't feel they can't infringe our right to keep and bear arms. Their opinions mean nothing. Just read what it says. It is easy. And I don't know how the threat to public safety was any greater looking for this guy than if they were looking for a serial killer. This wasn't an extraordinary situation.

 

[paulbot24]

Which is all the time, every day, 24/7.

The Homeland is the battlefield everyday in a War on Terror that is open-ended and never, ever going to end.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

We're at war with Eastasia?

 

[Brett85]

Which is all the time, every day, 24/7.

The Homeland is the battlefield everyday in a War on Terror that is open-ended and never, ever going to end.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Is there any situation under any circumstances when a member of the government can enter a home without a warrant? What about a fire and firefighters who enter the home to put the fire out? What if the owner is on vacation and isn't able to give the firefighters permission to enter his home?

 

[paulbot24]

Is there any situation under any circumstances when a member of the government can enter a home without a warrant? What about a fire and firefighters who enter the home to put the fire out? What if the owner is on vacation and isn't able to give the firefighters permission to enter his home?

When a cat looks distressed. A couple of years ago, my eighty year old father and mother left their house to go on vacation. They had my sister come and check on the cat while they were away. One day as my sister arrived to look in on the cat, she noticed some paperwork by the police left on their dining room table which said a neighbor called and said their cat in the window looked "distressed" and "starving" so the police had been there to make sure the cat was okay. I am not leaving anything out here. That's it. My parents, who have never given the police a reason to do anything but give them a parking ticket actually called their local police to find out which neighbor it was, and get more information as to why they entered their house and the police would not speak to them about it. I'll take my chances with a fire. That's what I have insurance for. At least you know some cop isn't pawning your shit or wearing your clothes right now after rifling through your shit while you were away.