What it will take to secure our borders

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

In order to secure the border of my Texas as a state belonging to the United States of America, as the Washingtonians no longer have the will to protect us (and as this is how the Roman Empire fell apart eventually), it will become necessary for the people of both Mexico and the United States to invade over the border into Mexico to fight against tyranny.
So, this brings up a question. What symbol should a union of Mexican and American people use when fighting together for their freedom? I think a white flag with fifty gold stars would be cool looking. Perhaps it could have a thin border of blue, white, and red? We could also fly a black flag with 31 silver stars while it could have a thin border of green, white and red. When going into battle, we could wear both patches with one on each shoulder.
What do you think?
Whatever the case, I've made a decision lately to abandon the present American flag to fly a higher idea. As I've been told that Mexicans (it is impossible to differentiate between illegal and legal Mexicans) have the right to fly a Mexican flag while using a United State's flag to wipe their butts with, I think the symbol of the United States is becoming worthless.
A nation cannot be established on an opinion as there exists certain truths which can't be legislated, administered, or judicated.

 

[hard@work]

I've been all along the southern US border in California not too far from the cities. It is wide flippin open as far as the eye can see for hundreds of miles in every direction. There are some checkpoints where you are questioned or sent to be searched. The best idea I see here is the idea that Mexicans and Americans can unite freely to protect their lands. The rest of what you have to say is just a turn off. I fly the jolly roger at my camp, just get over it.

 

[Fredom101]

What it will take is allowing private ownership of land, and ending the welfare state.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

What it will take is allowing private ownership of land, and ending the welfare state.

FTW. +rep

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I've been all along the southern US border in California not too far from the cities. It is wide flippin open as far as the eye can see for hundreds of miles in every direction. There are some checkpoints where you are questioned or sent to be searched. The best idea I see here is the idea that Mexicans and Americans can unite freely to protect their lands. The rest of what you have to say is just a turn off. I fly the jolly roger at my camp, just get over it.

If Americans do decide to fight along side Mexicans against the tyranny ruling Mexico, we certainly can't fly a U.S. flag. We would have to fly another one. So, I'm just taking the fifty stars as the most important part of the American flag and using that. Mexico has 31 states so I am utilizing them as well.
Of course, if your life is doing just fine, don't worry about it. I can imagine the last thing anyone would desire to do when their life is going jolly is something patriotic for the sake of another.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

What it will take is allowing private ownership of land, and ending the welfare state.

But what about the points I made:

1) The only way we will ever secure the U.S. border is by invading the tyranny on the other side and over throwing it.
2) Citizens of the United States volunteering to fight along side Mexicans in Mexico against the tyranny persecuting the Mexican people can't do so under the flag of the United States. So, one would have to come up with a new symbol.

 

[AlexanderY]

If Americans do decide to fight along side Mexicans against the tyranny ruling Mexico, we certainly can't fly a U.S. flag. We would have to fly another one. So, I'm just taking the fifty stars as the most important part of the American flag and using that. Mexico has 31 states so I am utilizing them as well.
Of course, if your life is doing just fine, don't worry about it. I can imagine the last thing anyone would desire to do when their life is going jolly is something patriotic for the sake of another.

Are you trolling?

 

[Airborn]

Mexicans can fight the tyranny in Mexico. I'm concerned with the tyranny in the USA.

 

[sailingaway]

Well, this probably isn't the way to secure it. Looks like they've just turned the schools here into the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow as far as magnets go. http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/white-house-loosens-border-rules-for-2012/

I somehow don't see the situation in the OP happening, we already have a lot to fight here, without taking on someone else's fights.

 

[showpan]

Want to secure our border...end the drug war and birthright citizenship and go after those companies that have hired the illegals. Then stop promising amnesty which brings millions more across the border. Who cares about their tyranny, I'm sick of ours, we aren't the world police.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

But what about the points I made:

1) The only way we will ever secure the U.S. border is by invading the tyranny on the other side and over throwing it.
2) Citizens of the United States volunteering to fight along side Mexicans in Mexico against the tyranny persecuting the Mexican people can't do so under the flag of the United States. So, one would have to come up with a new symbol.

Number 1 is unconstitutional, arrogant, and foolish. Number 2 is ineffective, overly risky (the risk/benefit ratio is such that it makes the endeavor not worthwhile) as well as unconstitutional, arrogant, and foolish.

 

[Dojo]

Just put the TSA on the border.............. make them all take their shoes off and get naked scanned. That should do it

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

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Are you trolling?

Lots of foreign people helped fight on the side of the U.S. to help our nation win its war against tyranny. Similarly, would you be willing to go into battle against tyranny fighting along side others for the sake of the Mexican people?

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Mexicans can fight the tyranny in Mexico. I'm concerned with the tyranny in the USA.

You must live in a vicinity close to the Washingtonians. Indeed, the states that ring the District of Columbia don't have to worry about foreign invasions of illegal aliens. See, we have become a nation of vain old men who have no concern whatsoever for this nation's posteriety. The worst tyranny in the world is located just to the south of the United States border and we have our noses thirteen thousand miles away clear around the world passing out trillions of counterfeit dollars trying to wipe out tyranny.
We don't have to worry about the necessary tyranny (more perfect union) ruling over our nation. The tyranny I'm more concerned about is the one invading my state of Texas.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Well, this probably isn't the way to secure it. Looks like they've just turned the schools here into the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow as far as magnets go. http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/white-house-loosens-border-rules-for-2012/

I somehow don't see the situation in the OP happening, we already have a lot to fight here, without taking on someone else's fights.

See, people think I am the one who is delusional. Look, it is impossible to guard the borders. The only way to truly guard our borders is by advancing into Mexico and wiping out the tyranny threatening the American people's Civil Purpose. We need to have the will to do the necessary things that it takes to be a nation!
I have two sons who are half Mexican. Perhaps they will one day choose to return to Mexico to help in fighting the tyranny down there that so persecutes the Mexican people. I've been praying about doing the same thing myself if such a movement ever materializes regarding the Mexican people and their desire for independence.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Number 1 is unconstitutional, arrogant, and foolish. Number 2 is ineffective, overly risky (the risk/benefit ratio is such that it makes the endeavor not worthwhile) as well as unconstitutional, arrogant, and foolish.

Please don't bring up constitutionality. Arrogant? Foolish?
So, you think defending the Mexican people from tyranny is arrogant? You honestly think we can guard the border?
See, it is one thing to talk like an American. It is another thing altogether to be one. A lot of foreigners helped the U.S. fight against the British. Meanwhile, the loyalists helped the British. In the Mexican people's quest to win their freedom from the tyranny persecuting them, why can't the American people help them? Isn't that a good enough reason to give your life? Wouldn't you rather give your life helping our Mexican neighbors be happier than fighting clear around the world for the sake of someone way over in the Middle East who hates you?
I mean, I can understand why illegal aliens come up here from Mexico to work. What I can't understand is their partying all the time while their own people suffer so much persecution back at home.
When our Founding Fathers were desperate, they didn't go look for better jobs in Cuba. No, they went to war. It is time the Mexican people paid the price for their freedom and I for one am willing to help them if that day ever comes.
And, sorry, I don't understand what you mean by unconstitutional. Was it unconstitutional for all those foreign people to willfully fight on the side of the American people in their quest to win their independence from tyranny? See, I'm not a Federal citizen, but a citizen of the United States. The promescuity the Washingtonians involve themselves with is none of my business just as the will of the people of the United States will never be the same business agenda the Washingtonians involve themselves with.
You know, all of this takes a lot of serious thought and prayer.

 

[BamaAla]

Ending the welfare state is the only thing that is needed; everything else is simply treating the symptoms.

 

[Vessol]

Is OP serious? This reads like the manifest of a manic neocon warmonger.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Is OP serious? This reads like the manifest of a manic neocon warmonger.

As Americans, we have been living in denial. While big daddy has been running off clear across town to commit his acts of promiscuity, we've been pretending that our neighbors have friendly intentions towards us. The tyranny to the south of our border is a danger to the American people while the kings in charge of us have become sickened on a false power. While so much concern has been made about the poor victims around the world, American individuals are having to fight battles at our borders.
I've already made my point. For some reason many can't read English on this matter. Once again, I'm not a citizen of the Federal government, but I am a citizen of the United States. Destroy the people and all one has is a tyranny as the head. Destroy the head and one still has the Civil Purpose of the people as it is the Truth.
In choosing to fight tyranny in Mexico, I won't be doing so under the tyranny ruled over by the Washingtonians. I will be doing so as a free United States citizen. A Mexican is going to have to desire to fight for the Mexican people first. When that happens, then, after prayer, I might decide to volunteer to fight on their side.

 

[CaptUSA]

Someone has a very limited viewpoint of what liberty is...

First off, your rights are granted to you by your Creator (or simply by the fact that you are human, if you don't believe in a Creator) not by the government. So then, that means that these "illegals" you speak of also have those same rights. Life, Liberty, Property, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

I can fully understand the problems you are facing in a border state, but you want to attack the symptom of the problem instead of the problem itself. Let me give you 3 things to end this problem:

End the Drug War
End the welfare state
Enforce private ownership and property rights

Do these things, and the problem of illegal immigration goes away on its own. Liberty is the solution to every problem, not more force.