What is your position on abortion?

[Brett85]

I know that people are probably tired of debating the abortion issue, and I'm not posting this poll for the purpose of starting another debate about abortion. I'm posting this poll because Keith and Stuff and I were having a discussion about the percentage of members here who are pro life and the percentage who are pro choice. So I'm going to post this poll and include options that are more specific, rather than just using labels like "pro life" and "pro choice."

Also, forget about the federal vs. state debate and just answer the question as if we're discussing what abortion policy should be at the state level.

 

[eduardo89]

I'm 100% pro-life.

Abortion is wrong in every single case and should be illegal.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Should be illegal in every case except for the life of the mother.

Should be dealt with at the state level. So I oppose every single Federal law against abortion.

 

[Christian Liberty]

You needed some options related to Federalism as well as the options you gave...

 

[Brett85]

You needed some options related to Federalism as well as the options you gave...

I edited my first post. Just answer the question as to what the policy should be at the state level.

 

[bolil]

I disagree with it in all cases, but don't give a shit if anyone wants to slay a baby just don't expect me to pay for it and don't expect me to give you business or friendship.

Actually, that is me as I wish to be, in reality I am much more compromising. For better or worse, i SUPPOSE.

 

[Brett85]

I think that abortion is only justified when the woman needs to get one to save her own life, since the government should care about both the life of the mother and the life of the baby.

 

[surf]

as Harry Browne used to say (paraphrasing), "with the government so involved in abortion, it's a wonder I haven't needed one."

 

[Brett85]

I disagree with it in all cases, but don't give a shit if anyone wants to slay a baby just don't expect me to pay for it and don't expect me to give you business or friendship.

Then you should vote for the option "It should be legal with no restrictions."

Edit: You did that, good. I want everyone to vote so that we'll get an accurate sample.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I edited my first post. Just answer the question as to what the policy should be at the state level.

OK then:

Banned except in cases where the life of the mother is in danger. Punished exactly the same as murder when done on demand...

Rape is trickier in that the woman has probably been punished enough. The doctor on the other hand...

 

[Christian Liberty]

I'm curious if the "No restrictions" people really understand what that means. That goes way further than Roe v Wade did...

 

[eduardo89]

I disagree with it in all cases, but don't give a shit if anyone wants to slay a baby just don't expect me to pay for it and don't expect me to give you business or friendship.

Do you also not give a shit if someone kills their newborn?

 

[bolil]

Then you should vote for the option "It should be legal with no restrictions."

Errrr, duh?

 

[bolil]

Do you also not give a shit if someone kills their newborn?

Cannot, don't recognize the difference. Would, if and when I can, administer my own brand of justice outside the bounds of law.

My opinion should be known by those who frequent this forum. I consider abortion infanticide, others don't. Who am I to impress upon them my opinion of a very complicated thing...? Though I don't think it is complex, others do. It is a fucked up world, welcome to it, best I can do is maintain what semblance of innocence I still have. Ironic, because who is more innocent than the unborn??? Anyone that gets an abortion due to consensual behavior I consider an asshole, I understand abortion in regards to rape though. I am not a woman, but if I were I dont think I could love a rape child like a consensual one. Even if that were possible, as it would be regarding a being greater than myself... what if the kid found out...? The self torture that would stem from that. I don't much like this world and hope I am not long of it.

Perfect world? Rapist, those that are beyond all doubt rapist, would be tortured. Their organs harvested and the marrow sucked from their living bones.

 

[Brett85]

Errrr, duh?

You hadn't voted when I made that comment. Thanks for voting.

 

[eduardo89]

Cannot, don't recognize the difference. Would, if and when I can, administer my own brand of justice outside the bounds of law.

So at what point do you give a shit if someone is murdered and think it should be illegal? If not in the womb, and not as a newborn, then when do you have a right to life? 6 months? 18 months? 6 years? 18 years? Never, murder should also be legal?

 

[gwax23]

It should be illegal with an exception for the life of the mother.

 

[Philhelm]

I didn't see the option, "Babies should be thrown into wood-chippers."

 

[green73]

Got to love Mr. Divisive, TC, and his public polls in GP.

 

[bolil]

So at what point do you give a shit if someone is murdered and think it should be illegal? If not in the womb, and not as a newborn, then when do you have a right to life? 6 months? 18 months? 6 years? 18 years? Never, murder should also be legal?

As far as I am concerned you have a right to life as soon as conceived. This is why I do not engage in acts that might spawn life. Again, my personal belief on this issue should be clear, clear as an open night sky. I cannot, however strongly I believe a thing to be antithetical to liberty on its face, deny another person of another gender which I know nothing about their opinion. Yet, not all opinion result in the death of innocent. I will fight the MIC before I get involved in abortion, if the world were a better place perhaps it would cease to be an issue.

We need to forge a better world, and then abortion or population control, or the rest of the sophistry justifying what I see as murder will be seen as the nonsense I believe it to be.

How to go about a better world? Well, isn;t that the common thread of these forums...